bassboy Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 My night at Avalon made me realize that I need to change my expectations of what NYC nightlife is going to be like for a while..Guys, we have 3 big clubs opening this fall, and we have all been talking about the "revival" of NYC clubland, but I don't think it's going to happen the way we are hoping.All 3 of these places are franchises and that is important.I got to Avalon at 130 and when I saw that crowd from down the block, I was THRILLED. Then I got closer, and the crowd was 50/50, but they looked ready to party.But after getting inside I felt like even though the place was full, it was really kind of empty. It was very Webster Hall-ish, no? The club:A main floor w/ house, a hip-hop room, an 80's room, a guy expediting at the bars, the stage became a VIP area, there were like 7 VIP areas.... The system was much improved to LL, but there was very little that reminded of LL in there. Why would they cover up all the brick w/ sheetrock? I didn't like that the place was so well lit; the church needs to be a dark and evil environment, not "Ok, we're clubbing tonight guys!!" and half the crowd had no idea who was spinning... Plus there was an air of sobreity that I could not shake off. I was on the railing on the 2nd floor taking it all in, and the place was really not that packed, they could have let that whole line in and I wish they had. Then there were the 5 or 6 diva queens running around that were hired by the place and acted like they actually went there that night which was cheesy. Like I said, when I saw the line down the block I was so pumped, but once inside, and the thrill of being back in there wore off, I felt like I was in WH. Nothing underground at all about that situation.My main concern is that this is going to be a trend that we may need to expect from the other franchise clubs that are coming soon. I believe that I, we, are in the minority who want an underground experience. It is no longer good business. Clubbing is much more of thing TO DO than a thing that YOU DO. Where is the culture that hooked me in and eventually got me (us) onto this board?I hope that I'm wrong, but I think I will need to drastically change my expectations in order to happy this fall.But like I said, I really hope that I'm wrong.Sorry for the rant!! Was there a meetup BTW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elementx Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 As far as covering the brick with sheetrock... I am sure they put loads of sound proofing behind there. To make sure they make it neighborhood friendly... As much as we all want the old... We all must realize that it is never coming back... Get used to what we have and enjoy it...You make all good points... But NY has changed therefore CLUB LIFE changed with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix_Leiter Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 Originally posted by bassboy My night at Avalon made me realize that I need to change my expectations of what NYC nightlife is going to be like for a while..Guys, we have 3 big clubs opening this fall, and we have all been talking about the "revival" of NYC clubland, but I don't think it's going to happen the way we are hoping.All 3 of these places are franchises and that is important.I got to Avalon at 130 and when I saw that crowd from down the block, I was THRILLED. Then I got closer, and the crowd was 50/50, but they looked ready to party.But after getting inside I felt like even though the place was full, it was really kind of empty. It was very Webster Hall-ish, no? The club:A main floor w/ house, a hip-hop room, an 80's room, a guy expediting at the bars, the stage became a VIP area, there were like 7 VIP areas.... The system was much improved to LL, but there was very little that reminded of LL in there. Why would they cover up all the brick w/ sheetrock? I didn't like that the place was so well lit; the church needs to be a dark and evil environment, not "Ok, we're clubbing tonight guys!!" and half the crowd had no idea who was spinning... Plus there was an air of sobreity that I could not shake off. I was on the railing on the 2nd floor taking it all in, and the place was really not that packed, they could have let that whole line in and I wish they had. Then there were the 5 or 6 diva queens running around that were hired by the place and acted like they actually went there that night which was cheesy. Like I said, when I saw the line down the block I was so pumped, but once inside, and the thrill of being back in there wore off, I felt like I was in WH. Nothing underground at all about that situation.My main concern is that this is going to be a trend that we may need to expect from the other franchise clubs that are coming soon. I believe that I, we, are in the minority who want an underground experience. It is no longer good business. Clubbing is much more of thing TO DO than a thing that YOU DO. Where is the culture that hooked me in and eventually got me (us) onto this board?I hope that I'm wrong, but I think I will need to drastically change my expectations in order to happy this fall.But like I said, I really hope that I'm wrong.Sorry for the rant!! Was there a meetup BTW? you are so correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeeker Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 Originally posted by bassboy My night at Avalon made me realize that I need to change my expectations of what NYC nightlife is going to be like for a while..Guys, we have 3 big clubs opening this fall, and we have all been talking about the "revival" of NYC clubland, but I don't think it's going to happen the way we are hoping.All 3 of these places are franchises and that is important.I got to Avalon at 130 and when I saw that crowd from down the block, I was THRILLED. Then I got closer, and the crowd was 50/50, but they looked ready to party.But after getting inside I felt like even though the place was full, it was really kind of empty. It was very Webster Hall-ish, no? The club:A main floor w/ house, a hip-hop room, an 80's room, a guy expediting at the bars, the stage became a VIP area, there were like 7 VIP areas.... The system was much improved to LL, but there was very little that reminded of LL in there. Why would they cover up all the brick w/ sheetrock? I didn't like that the place was so well lit; the church needs to be a dark and evil environment, not "Ok, we're clubbing tonight guys!!" and half the crowd had no idea who was spinning... Plus there was an air of sobreity that I could not shake off. I was on the railing on the 2nd floor taking it all in, and the place was really not that packed, they could have let that whole line in and I wish they had. Then there were the 5 or 6 diva queens running around that were hired by the place and acted like they actually went there that night which was cheesy. Like I said, when I saw the line down the block I was so pumped, but once inside, and the thrill of being back in there wore off, I felt like I was in WH. Nothing underground at all about that situation.My main concern is that this is going to be a trend that we may need to expect from the other franchise clubs that are coming soon. I believe that I, we, are in the minority who want an underground experience. It is no longer good business. Clubbing is much more of thing TO DO than a thing that YOU DO. Where is the culture that hooked me in and eventually got me (us) onto this board?I hope that I'm wrong, but I think I will need to drastically change my expectations in order to happy this fall.But like I said, I really hope that I'm wrong.Sorry for the rant!! Was there a meetup BTW? good post. I'm going this weekend with an open mind though. I have a feelign when all the hype and hoopla dies down it has a lot of potential. And one thing you can't deny...they are bringing in unbelievable talent in the next few weeks. Reason enough to make it out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyrevs1 Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 the thing i liked the most about the old place was that it was dark and dirty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassboy Posted September 24 Author Report Share Posted September 24 But I'll def be there when Diggers comes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit24e Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 I agree with zack there is definatly too much, "Hoopla," involving Avalon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeeker Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 Originally posted by exit24e I agree with zack there is definatly too much, "Hoopla," involving Avalon. don't make me post a picture of you on here son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit24e Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 Originally posted by zeeker don't make me post a picture of you on here son. if you do post the one of me and your mom. Thats my favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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