sotuchick Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Hello Everybody: I am taking a music class at school and I have this professor who keeps on saying that Electronic Music music is not "music". According to her she says that this is music solely created by computer and she does not consider it an artistic creation of the mind. Any of you guys agree or disagree with her? PEACE,me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 She might be right about Trance. Trance sucks.But - if she is talking about electronic music in general - I think she is just fucking with you guys and does not actually believe that. Shit - back in time when two people banged sticks together it was considered music. Computers are just the newest instruments. I think she is looking for you to explain the feeling and talent that is behind making electronic music. Would she consider NIN music? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiami Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 oh no, remember when I said to wear a hard hat, I would go put it on now!but I have to disagree. I mean danm, I've never heard a trance song with a piano in it, or violin......get my point. Even if you did make it on the computer, it's still a creation of the mind. I was joking when I said " I never heard a trance song with a piano or violin'music is a creation of the mind, no matter what you use to make it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiami Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 ...she must be a "house head":tongue: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotuchick Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 Originally posted by mrmiami ...she must be a "house head":tongue: :laugh: :laugh: I doubt it she is just a sorry a square minded B***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 i totally disagree...thats just like saying songs made by synths isnt music...u still need to have a concept of music...the bars, counts, etc...u have to have in mind a build up, break down, etc...a tempo...u get my drift...does computers make it easier? hell yes...but u still have the vision and then apply it to what u want it to sound like...i think she is just a bitter artist that never made it anywhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djrx06 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 I totally disagree with her.It definately is music. It takes a lot of thinking and artistic talent to put together tracks as well as mixes. She just happens to be extremely closed minded. My mother and father love the music I play for them. They do like a lot of the house music I play for them as well as some of the progressive stuff as well. I even caught my mother one time dancing to it in my living room. That was truly awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalphoenix Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Originally posted by mrmiami I've never heard a trance song with a piano in it, or violin...... Sorry to disagree with you but I remember hearing quite a few remix songs from PVD with piano melodies as breakdowns - specifically Quattara's "Come with Me".NO, i'm not a trance head....ooops I mean crackhead I just appreciate good music.As far as your teacher...she may have her point (in her head, those voices just wont stop!) but she should be more open minded about the methods to create music. :getdown: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Originally posted by mrmiami I mean danm, I've never heard a trance song with a piano in it, or violin...... i still have a Sarah Mclachlan track (Sweet Surrende...Tiesto Rmx) and the end of the track is ALL INSTRUMENTAL (piano to be exact)...learn ur history, fewl!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest saleen351 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 trance = noisethough, you must point out to her, there were no computers when house began back in the 1980's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidalexander Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 I think your teacher is ignorant...saying its not music is like saying art created on a computer is not art, who is she to judge..1. Does she consider the synths and drum machines used to create dance music since the 70's not instruments? 2. Whats the difference if the 808 kick drum noise came from a box or a computer=same sound manipulated by the "artist" to create. Computers emulate the sound, its up the artist to make it sound good. Teachers are supposed to open minds and expand your thinking...she is way too narrowminded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiami Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Originally posted by digitalphoenix Sorry to disagree with you but I remember hearing quite a few remix songs from PVD with piano melodies as breakdowns - specifically Quattara's "Come with Me".NO, i'm not a trance head....ooops I mean crackhead I just appreciate good music.As far as your teacher...she may have her point (in her head, those voices just wont stop!) but she should be more open minded about the methods to create music. :getdown: hello, people. I was being sarcastic:tongue: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiami Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Originally posted by mrmatas2277 i still have a Sarah Mclachlan track (Sweet Surrende...Tiesto Rmx) and the end of the track is ALL INSTRUMENTAL (piano to be exact)...learn ur history, fewl!!! did you really think I was serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Originally posted by mrmiami did you really think I was serious? did u think i was...if i lend u my copy..will play it at the BBQ? (i am being serious now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotuchick Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 Originally posted by guyman1966 She might be right about Trance. Trance sucks.But - if she is talking about electronic music in general - Yes, she was talking about ELECTRONIC Music in general (that's why I changed my original message) it was my bad to refer to nly TRANCE. I liked your point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiami Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Originally posted by mrmatas2277 did u think i was...if i lend u my copy..will play it at the BBQ? (i am being serious now) .....no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotuchick Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 Originally posted by mrmiami oh no, remember when I said to wear a hard hat, I would go put it on now! I've never heard a trance song with a piano in it, or violin......get my point. I'm sorry but I disagree with you...I've heard trance songs with different instrumets of classical music as part of its composition. I respect your point; but I recommend you to listen to a track that is actually posted on Obby's website called "Against The Grain - FutherThis track has a lot of guitar in it check it out,I'll find one with piano for you...MUA>>>>>http://www.soturecords.com/Against_The_Grain.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiami Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 OMG, I WAS BEING SARCASTIC:laugh: me being a "trance head" knows there are a shit load of trance songs with such.I can't stop laughing :laugh: I guess, when I said "get my point" you didn'tthanks for the tracks tho! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Originally posted by sotuchick Yes, she was talking about ELECTRONIC Music in general (that's why I changed my original message) it was my bad to refer to nly TRANCE. I liked your point... I had a few professors that loved to mess with us. I really think she is just trying to get you guys to think deeper about your music. She might be the Saleen of the academic world. Challenge her and build your case. Make it logical and bring examples. You'll get an "A" when you convince her.The main stream has poorly received innovation throughout musical history when it was first introduced. Read some main stream (of their day) critical reviews of Beethoven or The Beatles. Electronic music is still relatively new (compare it to a Violin or a Piano). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Originally posted by mrmiami .....no no "Jack O Lantern" for u then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiami Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 :laugh: damn, I was really looking foward it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obby Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Originally posted by mrmiami I mean danm, I've never heard a trance song with a piano in it, or violin......get my point. Even if you did make it on the computer, it's still a creation of the mind. Your lost then.Even if it was created with a real piano. That itself is still considered a creation of the mind.Just because the tools to create the sounds are more advanced does not mean that it is not a creating of the mind.Give me a little time and I will post a song that both samples pianos and violins.A perfect axample that I wish i had in mp3 format to share with you is:Union Jack - Two Full Moons and A TroutArgue that!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Originally posted by mrmatas2277 no "Jack O Lantern" for u then... This is a serious music thread in a music/club forum. For once - can you not make a joke about something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcarlosf Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 doesnt 'for an angel' have piano? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmiami Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Originally posted by obby Your lost then.Even if it was created with a real piano. That itself is still considered a creation of the mind.Just because the tools to create the sounds are more advanced does not mean that it is not a creating of the mind.Give me a little time and I will post a song that both samples pianos and violins. it was a fucking joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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