biznation00 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 for those of you wondering about the NEW Pioneer DVD player, here ya go... Sander Klienenberg played a showcase set in Miami this year using Pioneer’s groundbreaking DVJ-X1 DVD/CD players. We talk to him about the future of mixing visuals and music. “It’s like the second dimension for DJsâ€, says Sander Klienenberg, fresh from the world premiere of his latest project. He’s been taken on board by Pioneer to showcase the latest version on their wildly successful CDJ-1000 CD turntable, the one that plays DVDs too.Essentially it’s the CDJ-1000 with a video out,†he says. But the possibilities this creates have been exciting DJs who wish to bring a new visual mixing element to their sets.Sander worked for three months preparing his DVD set. Making the visuals, setting them to music and working out the whole performance. It was a daring project, as it was treading new ground for both him, and for the clubbers on the night.“The thing I was most afraid of was; would people actually realise what was happening? Would they see how the beats work and realise that it was all in key? But people really got it.â€The visual side of clubbing and mixing is something Sander has always been interested in. Around 12 years ago, when he DJed in a small local club in Holland, he used to play video clips off VHS tapes and if he was lucky, actually mix the visuals in time with the tunes. Fast forward to Miami 2004 and he’s leading the way for others to follow with this experimental new technology.“I hope its going to make house music more visual,†he says. “Instead of doing a mix for a radio station, DJs can go to straight to MTV with a complete hour of programming. They all want that, so it’s very, very exciting. I feel the whole scene could benefit from this.â€catch the rest of this article @:https://www.djmag.com/features_detail.asp?id=4Go to www.djsounds.com for full info on the DVJ-X1Source: DJMag.comwww.sanderkleinenberg.comSee Sander K @ Space 6.12.04Biznation00@msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar69 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 hey biz, will sander be using the dvds at space again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamimonk Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 yet another reason why Sander is king Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biznation00 Posted June 4 Author Report Share Posted June 4 hey biz, will sander be using the dvds at space again? Hopin' he does, but prob not for this comin' saturday. Check this out...I was online & I found a video link for Sander's "work to do" track. Seems like he created the video thru the Pioneer CVJ. Imagine if the Space residents had that toy to work with (wishful thinkin'). Sander K - "Work to do" Video link:http://mp.netscape.com/video.index.adp?mxid=1134033&refID=007190&partner=&_AOLFORM=w597.h395.p7 rockstar69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tinytasty Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 just watched the video, I don't know if it could have been anymore repetitive and extremely basic.WHile the Pioneer DVD mixers are cool, it seems better to utilize them on actually Videos that have been made for tunes, the Pioneer let's you synch the BPM of the music videos to each other, just like a turntable or CD deck does, SO Sander went in with some video production people and made some really basic videos to mix together off DVD for tunes from his set?There are some incredible Visual companies out there, that can really provide serious ambiance to a dj set, The Pioneer decks don't make Visuals, you play a DVD with Visuals and audio already burnt on a DVD and match the BPM's and mix em together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewChibale Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 $3300 for that ?uhhhhhhhhhm no ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsatan Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 on the surface it sounds like a great idea...but unless you are millionaire, i cant see anyone actually buying one (or two). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biznation00 Posted June 4 Author Report Share Posted June 4 just watched the video, I don't know if it could have been anymore repetitive and extremely basic.WHile the Pioneer DVD mixers are cool, it seems better to utilize them on actually Videos that have been made for tunes, the Pioneer let's you synch the BPM of the music videos to each other, just like a turntable or CD deck does, SO Sander went in with some video production people and made some really basic videos to mix together off DVD for tunes from his set?There are some incredible Visual companies out there, that can really provide serious ambiance to a dj set, The Pioneer decks don't make Visuals, you play a DVD with Visuals and audio already burnt on a DVD and match the BPM's and mix em together.It's a totally different experience when seein' it on your monitor than when it's programmed & beat matched in a club on giant screens. I'm sure Sander didn't intend on makin' an MTV quality vid for us to watch @ home. That & more is pretty much what you get from the machine. I think being that it's the first for pioneer of it's kind, there's always room for improvement, but aside from that, it makes a pretty cool toy @ the club. I'm no tech-junkie when it comes to this sort of stuff (Pod can explain it best). The text vocal samples are a cool feature. Personally, I thought it was cool to see when they premiered it this past conference on 4 giant screens on the Terrace. could they have used better visual? yes! but it sure beats the same borin' unbeatmatched visual over & over & over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 It is pretty much a fancy DVD player. The video is only as good as what is generated. When Sander had this during WMC, it was largely a beta product, and he did not have much in the way of custom DVDs for each track. Most of the visuals were provided by a seperate person running MDT off of a laptop or two, and when Sander needed the DVJ's video source to be turned on, the video artist would switch off his video inputs, and turn on Sander's. Eventually, most producers will realize to have a viable product, they will need to have custom video content created to go with their songs...tracks will come on DVD as opposed to CD. There's a big market for VJs right now, since they can provide the visuals, without spending 7 grand on 2 DVJ units. Eventually, Pioneer will be providing an integrated audio/video DJ mixer to compliment the DVJ system. As for the cost? Yeah it is steep, but just think, 2 years ago, a digital camera like mine cost six grand as opposed to two. Things come down in price...next year the DVJs will be under 2 grand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laliux Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 the video is too basic...doesn't really call my attention but at least it's something. I like more the Itunes or WMP visualizations.. LOL....or how about a Vivid porn video shown on a screen while a DJ set? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biznation00 Posted June 4 Author Report Share Posted June 4 It is pretty much a fancy DVD player. The video is only as good as what is generated. When Sander had this during WMC, it was largely a beta product, and he did not have much in the way of custom DVDs for each track. Most of the visuals were provided by a seperate person running MDT off of a laptop or two, and when Sander needed the DVJ's video source to be turned on, the video artist would switch off his video inputs, and turn on Sander's. Eventually, most producers will realize to have a viable product, they will need to have custom video content created to go with their songs...tracks will come on DVD as opposed to CD. There's a big market for VJs right now, since they can provide the visuals, without spending 7 grand on 2 DVJ units. Eventually, Pioneer will be providing an integrated audio/video DJ mixer to compliment the DVJ system. As for the cost? Yeah it is steep, but just think, 2 years ago, a digital camera like mine cost six grand as opposed to two. Things come down in price...next year the DVJs will be under 2 grand.See what I mean... Pod graced us with his Tech-junkie ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister ben Posted June 5 Report Share Posted June 5 im sure you'll soon (months away) see massive people trying to sell their visual dvd's to producers/djs/clubs... as far as vivid porn going with a track, someone made 1 for benny benassi satisfaction that i got off the newsgroups yesterday... the filename is Benny Benassi - Satisfaction (Extended XXX Revision)(SVCD 2003).mpg and its 133mb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laliux Posted June 5 Report Share Posted June 5 im sure you'll soon (months away) see massive people trying to sell their visual dvd's to producers/djs/clubs... as far as vivid porn going with a track, someone made 1 for benny benassi satisfaction that i got off the newsgroups yesterday... the filename is Benny Benassi - Satisfaction (Extended XXX Revision)(SVCD 2003).mpg and its 133mb.u got soulseek? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laliux Posted June 5 Report Share Posted June 5 im sure you'll soon (months away) see massive people trying to sell their visual dvd's to producers/djs/clubs... as far as vivid porn going with a track, someone made 1 for benny benassi satisfaction that i got off the newsgroups yesterday... the filename is Benny Benassi - Satisfaction (Extended XXX Revision)(SVCD 2003).mpg and its 133mb.u got soulseek? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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