paul76 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Hello All,well looks like the Government that we so very much trust with all theBULL Shit that comes out of there mouths have raised the terror level once again and not to the entire country, but to the most populated part of this country, NYC, Washington DC and Northern NJ, thats right ladies and gentlemen Northern NJ. Terrorists suck so bad that now they are telling us that one of the top targets in NJ will be mainly the Prudential Insurance Buildings around North Jersey, so for all that work here, or have peeps that they know up in these buildings god bless and give them a headz up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someclown Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Those fucking bastards. I swear to God, I wish there was one president with some balls who would just nuclear bomb the entire Middle East and let God sort out the good from the bad. That would end it--permanently. And before any middle eastern people get all upset and righteous, I'm half Syrian. But 100% American first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobydigital Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Those fucking bastards. I swear to God, I wish there was one president with some balls who would just nuclear bomb the entire Middle East and let God sort out the good from the bad. That would end it--permanently. And before any middle eastern people get all upset and righteous, I'm half Syrian. But 100% American first.ignorance and unedicated statements like this are the first problem in this world we live in.....thats all i have to say about that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teeman555 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Fuck that, I agree with someclown 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krismgl Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 I work for Citigroup... so imagine that one... there are cops, etc all over the front of my building.... i just want to go home... i worked in WTC2 on the 88th flr.... i lived through 9/11.. i really need to get a job in NJ... and fast... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybzee Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Those fucking bastards. I swear to God, I wish there was one president with some balls who would just nuclear bomb the entire Middle East and let God sort out the good from the bad. That would end it--permanently. And before any middle eastern people get all upset and righteous, I'm half Syrian. But 100% American first.thank god stupid ignorant motherfuckers like you usually work at Mickey D's instead of holding any real power in this world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someclown Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 thank god stupid ignorant motherfuckers like you usually work at Mickey D's instead of holding any real power in this world.Oh yeah smart guy? How would you handle the terror situation? Would you have 'open dialogue' with Al-Queda? Do you think that would work? Would you beg them to not attack us? Maybe that'll work...You stupid deluded little prick. Give me some answers about how to stop terrorists and maybe I'll take my initial statement back. Cocksucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybzee Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Oh yeah smart guy? How would you handle the terror situation? Would you have 'open dialogue' with Al-Queda? Do you think that would work? Would you beg them to not attack us? Maybe that'll work...You stupid deluded little prick. Give me some answers about how to stop terrorists and maybe I'll take my initial statement back. Cocksucker.Ahh...my poor little friend. It would be too easy to rip you a new asshole on an intellectual level, so I will keep this as short and clear as I can.First, you referenced blowing up the Middle East did you not, as if everyone in the Middle East, Arabs and Non-Arabs are terrorists? Truly you do not think this is the case, or maybe you fail to think on your own and listen to the mindless drivel that gets shoved in your face by news channels such as Fox.Listen, there is something known as soft power, and in the long run it is just as effective as hard power. We have seen what our hard power can get us into; the horribly mismanaged war in Iraq is evidence of that. Although hard power is necessary it has to be directed wisely. I could not think of more unwise, unjust and immoral way to use our military might than to eradicate millions of people because a small percentage of them actually threaten our livelihood. We are smarter than that. Are you as immoral and valueless as to believe that bombing and killing millions of innocent and loving people, irregardless of race or ethnicity, is a "good thing." Do you? If so, you're sad, and please seek help immediately.As far as soft power, it is crucial in winning the war on terror, not as a means to stop terrorists (see hard power for that), but as a means of preventing the millions of poor and disenfranchised youth of third world counties from having a reason to rise against us. In case you didn't realize, we won the cold war not only by building up our military and in a sense bankrupting the soviet union, but we also won it by immersing the Soviet youth with our Blue Jeans and rock'n roll. Think about how effective our country would be if we stopped relying solely on the strength of our military might. Can you truly be a beacon of democracy solely through the use of a gun or a tank? Such military force is necessary, but it is not an end in and of itself.I can understand that you are scared, and your knee jerk reaction is to bomb them all. However, you need to be wiser than that and realize (1) you are playing into the hands of terrorists when you spawn that kind of reaction and (2) it is not a long term solution, unless again you are an immoral and valueless jerk (which I would not doubt). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someclown Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 OK. Soft power and hard power. Got it. Now, how does any of this prevent terror attacks in the upcoming weeks? The terrorists are here. They are planning. The CIA and other intelligence says so. Now maybe you don't believe the intelligence agencies. That's your perogative, but I choose to believe these reports. I am sure your education far surpasses mine (although I seriously doubt it-trust me). And I do realize that there has to be a long term solution to these problems (although this bullshit has been going on hundreds of years--so again I doubt it). So what do we do to prevent more 9/11 type attacks, kidnappings, bombings, etc NOW? You still have failed to give me an answer. I'm waiting.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul76 Posted August 3 Author Report Share Posted August 3 wow.. i can see this has reaches very interesting levels.. I like it.. I love to see CP people debate how smart they are.. in a way aren't we all so fucken smart.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycchic24 Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 ignorance and unedicated statements like this are the first problem in this world we live in.....thats all i have to say about that....i love you bobby.. i really do. but before you say that someone is uneducated, please do a spell check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velvetrope Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 hey what is a terrorist main job. it is to scare people and they are definitly winning at that. they will probally threatin us everyday if they could and they have for years before 9/11 happend. thats why the threat was ignored. so the only reason the public is hearing about all these threats is because the goverment does not want to make the same mistake twice. yes we may be bombed again in the upcoming weeks but it may not happen for another few years. just as long as our american people are scared of them, then they are winning.Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybzee Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 OK. Soft power and hard power. Got it. Now, how does any of this prevent terror attacks in the upcoming weeks? The terrorists are here. They are planning. The CIA and other intelligence says so. Now maybe you don't believe the intelligence agencies. That's your perogative, but I choose to believe these reports. I am sure your education far surpasses mine (although I seriously doubt it-trust me). And I do realize that there has to be a long term solution to these problems (although this bullshit has been going on hundreds of years--so again I doubt it). So what do we do to prevent more 9/11 type attacks, kidnappings, bombings, etc NOW? You still have failed to give me an answer. I'm waiting....First off, I responded to your statement that we should "nuke the middle east." That was the issue we first debated. When were dealing with what should be done to eradicate the immediate terrorist threat? Clearly if there is an imminent attack planned, bombing Yemen would do little to prevent terrorists on our own soil no? I think it's clearly obvious why that is wrong, don't you?Second, our country has been on high alert for the past three years, we have lived under constant fear and apprehension of upcoming attacks. What makes these reports so different from the dozens of other ones that we have received? To be quite frank I am quite skeptical of everything that comes out of our leaders' mouths today, I tend to learn from experience. Why should I so blindly follow what Mr. Tom Ridge has to say? I'm aware of why this information has been deemed so credible (logistics, detailed information recovered from a laptop in Pakistan, which has been subsequently confirmed by independent intelligence agencies), but we have heard that all before. I agree that being vigilant and aware is a necessary step to make us "feel" safer, but in the end there is really nothing we can do to stop a determined killer; At least not in the short run. My argument is based more on the long run, and that is why I spoke of soft power and hard power. If we "nuked" the Middle East because we were scared what would the rest of the world do? Could you imagine Pakistan or India's reaction? China or Russia's for that matter? Assured Mutual Destruction buddy. Do you think the rest of the world would sit by and applaud the heroic United States for causing mass destruction to some of the greatest civilizations to live on this planet. Is that your solution? Becuase as of this moment, I have already detailed why I think your knee-jerk reaction is so wrong, and is so destructive. You have simply dismissed my ideas and told me that you have more education than me. Maybe your B.S. and J.D. come from better schools than me, I don't know. Perhaps your plans for a doctorate in the near future will be from a more prestigious program. To be honest, I could give two shits, because it’s obvious that you put little thought or coherence behind your statements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someclown Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 First off, I responded to your statement that we should "nuke the middle east." That was the issue we first debated. When were dealing with what should be done to eradicate the immediate terrorist threat? Clearly if there is an imminent attack planned, bombing Yemen would do little to prevent terrorists on our own soil no? I think it's clearly obvious why that is wrong, don't you?Second, our country has been on high alert for the past three years, we have lived under constant fear and apprehension of upcoming attacks. What makes these reports so different from the dozens of other ones that we have received? To be quite frank I am quite skeptical of everything that comes out of our leaders' mouths today, I tend to learn from experience. Why should I so blindly follow what Mr. Tom Ridge has to say? I'm aware of why this information has been deemed so credible (logistics, detailed information recovered from a laptop in Pakistan, which has been subsequently confirmed by independent intelligence agencies), but we have heard that all before. I agree that being vigilant and aware is a necessary step to make us "feel" safer, but in the end there is really nothing we can do to stop a determined killer; At least not in the short run. My argument is based more on the long run, and that is why I spoke of soft power and hard power. If we "nuked" the Middle East because we were scared what would the rest of the world do? Could you imagine Pakistan or India's reaction? China or Russia's for that matter? Assured Mutual Destruction buddy. Do you think the rest of the world would sit by and applaud the heroic United States for causing mass destruction to some of the greatest civilizations to live on this planet. Is that your solution? Becuase as of this moment, I have already detailed why I think your knee-jerk reaction is so wrong, and is so destructive. You have simply dismissed my ideas and told me that you have more education than me. Maybe your B.S. and J.D. come from better schools than me, I don't know. Perhaps your plans for a doctorate in the near future will be from a more prestigious program. To be honest, I could give two shits, because it’s obvious that you put little thought or coherence behind your statements. I thought I was being very coherent. Actually my JD and PhD probably do come from more prestigious programs, so do you think I actually believe that bombing the Middle East into smithereens is feasible? I hope not. Maybe I don't have a conscience/morals, but I can't believe that you live anywhere near the WTC and not have at least a little feeling of the need for redemption to the bastards who killed all those innocent people. Now go after the Al-Queda network you might say. OK, fine. But who are these people who are involved? I used to be kind of innocent. I thought everybody was at heart good people with love in their hearts. 9/11 changed that. Now I'm suspicous. Maybe it's overkill, but it is a survival instinct. Everytime I hear about someone taking a video of an important building I get nervous. Everytime I hear about a group of middle eastern men taking flying lessons, I get nervous. It must be nice to live in your little tower away from all that. I for one work in the city and have most of everyone who means anything to me live in NYC or North Jersey. I want the terror to stop and now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobydigital Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 i love you bobby.. i really do. but before you say that someone is uneducated, please do a spell check.alwys in a rush at worke....sory for the mistace....wont happn again..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christyne13 Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 ... raised the terror level once again and not to the entire country, but to the most populated part of this country, NYC, Washington DC and Northern NJ...NYC has been at orange since 9/11, despite the rest of the country.And why the shock of NJ? Terrorist do not discriminate...they look for "big impact" and prud is one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybzee Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 I thought I was being very coherent. Actually my JD and PhD probably do come from more prestigious programs, so do you think I actually believe that bombing the Middle East into smithereens is feasible? I hope not. Maybe I don't have a conscience/morals, but I can't believe that you live anywhere near the WTC and not have at least a little feeling of the need for redemption to the bastards who killed all those innocent people. Now go after the Al-Queda network you might say. OK, fine. But who are these people who are involved? I used to be kind of innocent. I thought everybody was at heart good people with love in their hearts. 9/11 changed that. Now I'm suspicous. Maybe it's overkill, but it is a survival instinct. Everytime I hear about someone taking a video of an important building I get nervous. Everytime I hear about a group of middle eastern men taking flying lessons, I get nervous. It must be nice to live in your little tower away from all that. I for one work in the city and have most of everyone who means anything to me live in NYC or North Jersey. I want the terror to stop and now.Like you have a law degree and a doctorate...okay whatever. This will be my last post, mainly because you're full of shit. And buddy, blowing up the middle east is feasible (i.e. we're extremely capable of doing it), get your words right. I never talked about being capable; I talked about whether it was wise. And lastly, if we blew up the middle east to save our own lives, who are the real terrorists. Get back to me after you get your m.d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc55 Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 It's a good thing I didn't take that offer from them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycchic24 Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Get back to me after you get your m.d.actually its funny you should say that.. he already does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycchic24 Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 alwys in a rush at worke....sory for the mistace....wont happn again.....heheh.. you're forgiven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someclown Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Like you have a law degree and a doctorate...okay whatever. This will be my last post, mainly because you're full of shit. And buddy, blowing up the middle east is feasible (i.e. we're extremely capable of doing it), get your words right. I never talked about being capable; I talked about whether it was wise. And lastly, if we blew up the middle east to save our own lives, who are the real terrorists. Get back to me after you get your m.d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someclown Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Relax, bro. I'm just fucking around to pass the time. Don't take anything too seriously. Life is short. By the way, read nycchic's post. Have a great rest of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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