another letter to the president

[jtk4]

Dear President Bush;

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's

Law. I have learned a great deal from you and understand why you

would propose and support a constitutional amendment banning same

sex marriage. As you said, "in the eyes of God marriage is based

between a man and a woman." I try to share that knowledge with as

many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual

lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22

clearly states it to be an abomination... End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however,

regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how

to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both

male and female, provided they are purchased from

neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this

applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify?

Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as

sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do

you think would be a fair price for her? (I'm pretty sure

she's a virgin).

3. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it

creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev1:9. The

problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not

pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

4. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the

Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.clearly states he should be put to

death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should

I ask the police to do it? How can I help you here?

5. A friend of mine feels that even though eating

shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser

abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you

settle this? Aren't there 'degrees' ofabomination?

6. Lev.21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of

God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I

wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20,

or is there some wiggle-room here?

7. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed,

including the hair around their temples, even though this

is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they

die?

8. I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a

dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if

I wear gloves?

9. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting

two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by

wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread

(cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and

blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all

the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone

them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death

at a private family affair, like we do with people who

sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have

studied these things extensively and thus enjoy

considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident

you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is

eternal and unchanging. It must be really great to be on

such close terms with God and his son, even better than

you and your own Dad, eh?

silly

[mfiorellino]

Great posting! I've made the same arguements to fundamentalist Christians and they never have a good answer for me. It's amazing on how many fundamentalists do NOT read the Bible.

[xxxpornstarxxx]

Great posting! I've made the same arguements to fundamentalist Christians and they never have a good answer for me. It's amazing on how many fundamentalists do NOT read the Bible.

W4!

[chris817]

This is because these right wing christian nuts cherry pick what they want from the bible to suit them.

Dear President Bush;

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's

Law. I have learned a great deal from you and understand why you

would propose and support a constitutional amendment banning same

sex marriage. As you said, "in the eyes of God marriage is based

between a man and a woman." I try to share that knowledge with as

many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual

lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22

clearly states it to be an abomination... End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however,

regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how

to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both

male and female, provided they are purchased from

neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this

applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify?

Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as

sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do

you think would be a fair price for her? (I'm pretty sure

she's a virgin).

3. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it

creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev1:9. The

problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not

pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

4. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the

Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.clearly states he should be put to

death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should

I ask the police to do it? How can I help you here?

5. A friend of mine feels that even though eating

shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser

abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you

settle this? Aren't there 'degrees' ofabomination?

6. Lev.21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of

God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I

wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20,

or is there some wiggle-room here?

7. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed,

including the hair around their temples, even though this

is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they

die?

8. I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a

dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if

I wear gloves?

9. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting

two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by

wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread

(cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and

blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all

the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone

them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death

at a private family affair, like we do with people who

sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have

studied these things extensively and thus enjoy

considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident

you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is

eternal and unchanging. It must be really great to be on

such close terms with God and his son, even better than

you and your own Dad, eh?

silly

[tafolaimages]

This is because these right wing christian nuts cherry pick what they want from the bible to suit them.

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[jtk4]

pornstarxxx=tafolaimages and is just trying to make nice

[chris817]

That is the best you have?

dispute what i said?

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Hacking into porn websites and using images you have no right

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All of a sudden I see our images popping up on the web...

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[siceone]

The problem with the bible is that is it is tw different texts with two different messages. These messages were also conveyed by two different mediums. The reason we are Christians is that we follow the New Testament, Jews follow the old testament or the torah. The old testament was passed on for generations by word of mouth originating from prophets who never actually talked to god they were told by an angel of the lord what to say to god's people. It's a 2000 year old game of telephone which was then writen down in hebrew then aramaic then Greek then latin then Middle english. Any good christian knows there are discrepancies in the old testament and I would even go as far as to say none of the things writen down in the entire bible are Actually the word of god EXECPT the beatitudes which were direct quotations from jesus teaching. It has been proven that certain dogma in the bible were created by the leaders of the time, which were priests, in order to protect the people from themselves and to solve problems. For example you're not supposed to eat pork according to the old testament and it has been proven the reason for this dogma is because people were getting sick. How do you get people to stop eating pork Tell them God deems the pig unclean.

In short Christianty doesn't take many teachings from the Old testament compared to the new testament. and any theologian would stress the fact that these words from the old testament have been distorted by time and we should take the spirit of what these words say to each person as religion is a personal journey. Basically what Im trying to say is The bible at the very least is a philosphy open to interpretation and is an Amallgum of works inspired by god.

[jtk4]

which is why it should be kept out of politics and running a country

[siceone]

Whether you like it or not Religion is a BIG part of this country and the belief in God and freedom was the north star the brought the pilgrims here and founded out republic. The fact is that The president never overtly stated that he governs a certain way because of any explicit religious quote. But governs and Leads his own life by the LESSONS taught in the bible along with every other holy book known to man. By your logic NOTHING that is taught in the bible should be used to guide public policy.

[jtk4]

It has to be kept out because not everyone believes the same thing.

[siceone]

so only the things that everyone belives in is allowed in the public discourse?

[jtk4]

no but you can not make policy on shit regarding religion. Such as mandatory prayer in public school. If all tax payers pay for somethin then they should not be subjected to beliefs that are not theirs.

Religion is different then most matters because it can not be proved one way or another. OUr country was set up so that state and religion were seperated.

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[siceone]

no but you can not make policy on shit regarding religion. Such as mandatory prayer in public school. If all tax payers pay for somethin then they should not be subjected to beliefs that are not theirs.

Religion is different then most matters because it can not be proved one way or another. OUr country was set up so that state and religion were seperated.

you really should read your history and understand what separation of church and state really means. you're a liberal you should understand nuance. and please give me one example of someone being SUBJECTED to a belief that isn't theirs and if you want to talk about taxpayers being subject to beliefs what about the pro-life tax paying people or the anti-war tax paying people aren't they subject to beliefs as well?

[siceone]

no but you can not make policy on shit regarding religion. Such as mandatory prayer in public school. If all tax payers pay for somethin then they should not be subjected to beliefs that are not theirs.

Religion is different then most matters because it can not be proved one way or another. OUr country was set up so that state and religion were seperated.

you really should read your history and understand what separation of church and state really means. you're a liberal you should understand nuance. and please give me one example of someone being SUBJECTED to a belief that isn't theirs and if you want to talk about taxpayers being subject to beliefs what about the pro-life tax paying people or the anti-war tax paying people aren't they subject to beliefs as well? please give me one example of the president subjecting people to his belifes.

[italia23]

This is because these right wing christian nuts cherry pick what they want from the bible to suit them.

You do realize that there are Republicans who are not Christian fundamentalists. They are nutjobs, IMO, and should not be a representation of those who voted for Bush. Just like those low-lifes who were setting shit on fire during the RNC protests.

[jtk4]

you really should read your history and understand what separation of church and state really means. you're a liberal you should understand nuance. and please give me one example of someone being SUBJECTED to a belief that isn't theirs and if you want to talk about taxpayers being subject to beliefs what about the pro-life tax paying people or the anti-war tax paying people aren't they subject to beliefs as well?

prayer in school happened (probably still does) in the south. Kids that are not christian go to school and then are forced to sit there while the teachers read a prayer. The school is funded by the state and tax payers. If taxes are used for pro-war or pro-abortion then they can be used for the opposite. Apples and oranges.

and i never said the president subjected anyone to his beliefs.

[jtk4]

the seperation of state and church was set up to protect our religious liberty.

it is so the government can not help or hinder any religion.

The federal government should not aid any religion because if it does then it is in fact promoting that religion.