bxbomb Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Havnt been on one for a while Just remember arguing with the multitude of Jeter haters on board about him arguably being the best base runner in baseball.DJ The score was tied in the last of the 12th inning at Yankee Stadium in Game 2 of the 2004 American League Division Series. Derek Jeter was at third base with one out. Hideki Matsui hit a bullet line drive directly at Twins right fielder Jacque Jones. Maybe Jones didn't think Jeter would tag up -- a poor assumption -- or, more likely, Jones didn't have a chance to get his feet set and get behind the ball because it was hit so hard. Flat-footed, leaning backward, he made a weak throw to the plate. Jeter tagged up and scored the winning run."You made your decision to go as soon as the ball was hit?'' Jeter was asked."I made my decision to go before the ball was hit,'' Jeter said.That's why Jeter is such a great baserunner, that's why he's our pick for the best baserunner in the game. There are other candidates, including Larry Walker and Roberto Alomar, but we'll take Jeter because of intelligence, aggressiveness, experience and speed.Jeter easily beats Jacque Jones' throw home in the ALDS. "You can't go wrong with that choice,'' said Devil Rays coach Don Zimmer, who was a coach for the Yankees for the first eight years of Jeter's career. "He has something in him that a lot of guys don't have: it's instinct. I give a guy five years to become a good baserunner. If he's no good after five years, he has no chance. If you're bad after five, you'll be bad after 12: run until they tag you out. This guy was really good his rookie year, and things haven't changed. He's never out of position. He's always where he's supposed to be.''Jeter is like Cal Ripken (I covered him every day for five years and saw him make one baserunning mistake), only faster. Jeter, like Ripken was, is so involved in the game, he never misses a thing. If a throw is off line, he takes the extra base. He's always aware of where he is, making it easy on the third base coach. He gets a great secondary lead, which is vital."Jeter is the best,'' one scout said. "A lot of players think of themselves as hitters when they get on base. Not him. The goal is to score a run. You have to get a good secondary lead, you have to be aware of the situation, to know the outfielder's arm, to make good turns. It's about concentration. Every good baserunner is thinking two bases at a time, not satisfied with one.''It's a matter of smarts more than speed. "When I managed in Boston, our best baserunner was Carlton Fisk, and he was a big catcher,'' Zimmer said. "He always went first to third. He scored from second on a single. He knew how to get a lead.'' There is no smarter player than Jeter, which he proved in the 2001 playoff game against the A's when he darted across the infield, picked up an errant throw along the first base line and backhanded the ball to the plate to nail Jeremy Giambi. "It's interesting that Jeter was involved in that play,'' said a scout. "Everyone says the reason Giambi was out on that play was not because he didn't slide, it's because he didn't get a secondary lead. It takes no ability to get a secondary lead. When you don't, it's unacceptable. It's lazy.'' Jeter has never spent a lazy moment on the field, including running out a routine grounder. "You can hear him run to first base,'' said former Blue Jays manager Buck Martinez.Jeter has it all: speed, aggressiveness and smarts. You could hear Jeter running down the third base line for the winning run against the Twins last October. "As a third base coach,'' Zimmer said, "you tell the runner every time, 'anything in the air or on a line, get back here.' Well, how many times do you tell them, and what happens, they break for home on a line drive, and can't get back in time to tag up? You say 'what happened?' They say, 'I froze.' You freeze in Canada, not on the baseball field."Jeter never freezes.''Being a great baserunner is different from being a great basestealer. Paul Molitor was both, Rickey Henderson was a great basestealer, not a great baserunner. Being a great baserunner doesn't mean you never make an out on the bases. Molitor says he was picked off "more than a few times'' in his Hall of Fame career. When a player is aggressive at the right time, and gets thrown out, there can be no argument. It's when you make the first out of an inning at third base, or forget the number of outs, that's a big mistake.Jeter made one as a rookie in 1996. He was caught stealing, the dreaded third out at third base. Manager Joe Torre was livid about such a rookie mistake. A half inning later, after playing in the field, Jeter came in the dugout and sat right next to Torre on the bench. Without saying a word, Jeter was telling his manager "here I am, I screwed up, let me have it, I'm accountable.'' Torre looked at him, laughed and said "get the hell out of here.''It was probably the last big mistake Jeter made on the bases. Tim Kurkjian is a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine and a regular contributor to Baseball Tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk1 Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Here we go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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majinbuu Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 his baserunning didnt help the yanks when they choke up a 3 game lead to the sox... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxbomb Posted January 19 Author Report Share Posted January 19 cmon guys its January , im reaching for some drama here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStephen Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 cmon guys its January , im reaching for some drama heretraining camp starts in two monthsbelieve me, we'll have enough drama for the next seven months from then on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxbomb Posted January 19 Author Report Share Posted January 19 WHich reminds me where has the King of Incoherency been????need some verbal jousting with magellan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtk4 Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 well they have to find something to ball wash him.best hitter-nobest defensive-nobest baserunner-atleast we found something. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxbomb Posted January 19 Author Report Share Posted January 19 well they have to find something to ball wash him.best hitter-nobest defensive-nobest baserunner-atleast we found something. lolare your talking about the reigning american league GOLD GLOVE shortstopanyway ,did any read he was banging Scarlett Johanssen last month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStephen Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 are your talking about the reigning american league GOLD GLOVE shortstopanyway ,did any read he was banging Scarlett Johanssen last monthI'm sure he was....after all, he IS rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxbomb Posted January 19 Author Report Share Posted January 19 yeh im sureDJ has built up a nice little list of conquests over the years.Something about Scarlett Johansen i dont like , face is a little long maybe , i dunno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStephen Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 yeh im sureDJ has built up a nice little list of conquests over the years.Something about Scarlett Johansen i dont like , face is a little long maybe , i dunnoI dont think much of her eitherbtw...the list does include Jessica Alba. Just another reason to hate that fucker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxbomb Posted January 19 Author Report Share Posted January 19 I dont think much of her eitherbtw...the list does include Jessica Alba. Just another reason to hate that fuckeryummmy jessica , also Mariah (skanky but hot) jOrdan abrewster (nice girl met her at a game ) your fave ANna K (allegedly) and former Miss usa Lara Duttabut his biggest score Vanessa minnillo (a former miss TEEN usa) DROOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStephen Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 and nothing ever worked out with any of them huh?definately gay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkornre Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 and nothing ever worked out with any of them huh?definately gaythe boy is a playa...he can get all the ass he wants...y settle down now...he is in his prime... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStephen Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 the boy is a playa...he can get all the ass he wants...y settle down now...he is in his prime...tell yourself what you want, but your boy is a queermo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkornre Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 tell yourself what you want, but your boy is a queermonow thats a new word...queermo??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookie23 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Piazza is getting married next week!FYI...fuckers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkornre Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Piazza is getting married next week!FYI...fuckers so Sam said yes.......awwwwwwwwwwwww how cute for them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookie23 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 grumble...no comment...grumble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempkid Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Piazza is getting married next week!FYI...fuckers Didn't New Jersey's former gov get married too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempkid Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Why do most non Yankee fans hate Jeter so much ?I can see if he was an asshole or something, but he's not.Even Curt Schilling said he is the most respected player in baseball.I can see hating A-Rod, but Jeter, he plays the game hard and respects the game.That would be like myself, a JETS fan hating Tom Brady !!!!I can't hate on the guy at all, he's a class act and a winner, not about the stats, but knows how to win and conducts himself in a great manner. For that matter ,that whole team is just a bunch of good guys, i want to hate them, but I can't.. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk1 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Every good player is gonna have there share of fans and haters. Its just the way it is. It will always be that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookie23 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Why do most non Yankee fans hate Jeter so much ?I can see if he was an asshole or something, but he's not.Even Curt Schilling said he is the most respected player in baseball.I can see hating A-Rod, but Jeter, he plays the game hard and respects the game.That would be like myself, a JETS fan hating Tom Brady !!!!I can't hate on the guy at all, he's a class act and a winner, not about the stats, but knows how to win and conducts himself in a great manner. For that matter ,that whole team is just a bunch of good guys, i want to hate them, but I can't.. lolTom Brady can eat a dick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkornre Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Tom Brady can eat a dick...i hear pennington takes it in the dumper... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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