My name Is No Saleen

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Both y'all are wrong you know.

American motor companies invent the shit that Japan mass produces.

The ultimate in performance and engineering belongs to the German automakers. Daimler-Benz is making starships that riceboys and domestic fans won't see the technology of in their cars for years. They don't talk about "German Engineering" for nothing.

It is due to the fact that Germans take their driving seriously. Drive with a German. The vehicle is immaculate. Tuned to within an inch of it's life, there's no noisy exhausts, go-fast stripes, non-functional spoilers, or obnoxious music blasting. No eating in the car either. And conversations are limited, and forget about yakking on your cellphone to find out who Marisleysis or Yamile fucked last night. Point A to Point B as fast and as efficiently as possible. No posturing or posing. And you wonder why they can handle the autobahns.

Germans are the world's best drivers, of the world's best cars. It's a true bitch to even get a license in Germany, and the cops (in their specially-built Audi pursuit vehichles) will pull you over for driving a piece of shit, or something obnoxious.

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POD....c'mon man....you ^ can't compare a Maclaren against Johnny's highschool project. LOL

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Hehe, I know, not as severe, but still, my point is that the reason Germans tend to have better cars than just about everyone else, is because driving is a religion to them. A rice rocket in Germany would be pulled over before it even got on the Autobahn, it's driver tossed in jail and the car impounded or sold for scrap.

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One of the only pieces where I could find someone actually opening up (redlining) one of these monsters on camera...this hillbilly didn't have enough road to even see 4th. but listen to him squeal like a little school girl haha!

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[Guest michael^heaven]

Hehe, I know, not as severe, but still, my point is that the reason Germans tend to have better cars than just about everyone else, is because driving is a religion to them. A rice rocket in Germany would be pulled over before it even got on the Autobahn, it's driver tossed in jail and the car impounded or sold for scrap.

Funny story...A friend of mine was stationed in Germany for 2 years. Some of the guys had shipped over their American-made cars. One of them had a Mustang GT. The engine blew up while he was attempting high speeds on the Autobahn.

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The 640-hp twin-turbo twelve cylinder E-Class set a new world record during the 'auto motor und sport' magazine high-speed tests in Nardo, Italy.

With this record, the small-series production E V12 ultra-performance saloon, based on the current Mercedes W 211 E-Class series, follows in the footsteps of the legendary BRABUS E V12 based on the predecessor W/S 210 E-Class. In October of 1996 this found an entry into the Guinness Book of World Records as the 'world's fastest saloon' with an electronically limited top speed of 330 km/h (205 mph).

http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=12540

[240turbo]

Hehe, I know, not as severe, but still, my point is that the reason Germans tend to have better cars than just about everyone else, is because driving is a religion to them. A rice rocket in Germany would be pulled over before it even got on the Autobahn, it's driver tossed in jail and the car impounded or sold for scrap.

Now you see Pod, you're really pissing me off. Don't get me wrong I love German cars. I love them to death, especially BMW's Audi's and Porsche's. But, don't post a picture of a front wheel drive integra next do a Mclaren SLR. Don't make comparisons like that. That's not fair. That whole "Rice Rocket" talk is uncalled for. Don't talk about stuff you don't know. Let me school you.

Have you ever heard of a "Skyline GTR"? Nissan's Supercar that never made it to the US and that was a black market import in Europe?

The Skyline GTR sent everybody back to the drawing board in 1989 when it debuted. It was Banned in Europe for being "too competitive". No one wanted to race against it. For your information, the Skyline was the first Car to lap the infamous Nurburgring in Germany in under 8 minutes. They sent Porsche and all the other exotics back to the drawing board. It was the most feared car at the time, it caught everybody off guard and cost a mere 50K.

The world was not ready or willing to see a Japanese car dominate on the racetrack. Because of what? Heritage. Bullshit. Cowards. It was a slap in the face of all the Euro exotics. They couldn't beat it so they banned it. The same way the banned Audi from the US Trans am series in the 80's for being better than the competition. They made all wheel drive illegal. And since all of Audi's cars were AWD, it was just a nicer way of saying" Audi, your german all wheel drive crap is killing our crappy domestics, so we're banning you" Cowards. Bet you didn't know that...Research it if you don't believe me.

Here is what makes the GTR tick and what makes it so lethal:

It's a rear biased all wheel drive coupe with all wheel steering with an ability to split torque side to side, and a twin turbo inline six engine. What all that tech talk means is that the car behaves completely like pure rear wheel drive sports car until the front tires lose traction, at which point the computers send torque to the front tires creating all wheel drive traction. Also when cornering, the rear wheels get into the action as well to aid in steering. And while it's doing that, if any of the inside wheels start losing traction the ECU automatically sends more grip to the inside wheels.

And we are still talking about the car in stock configuration. It is laughably easy to make serious power with this engine due to the way it was designed. As bulletproof as the supra motor. It's not uncommon to see 1000 plus horsepower skylines ravaging the streets of japan. Now imagine the damage a car like that would do to an exotic.

The truth is Pod, the Japanese DO build serious cars as well, but most Americans and even snobby Europeans are not aware of it, Because the Japanese tend to keep the best at home. Also some are aware but refuse to admit it. Bet you didn't know that either.

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my personal all around favourite is still any "911" just because they are lower maintenance, not a chore to drive on a regular basis, affordable(relative of course), and I happen to really like the lines and design from beginning to end on that cart.

That having been said the Skyline GT-R is probably the most heralded of the Japanese supercars. Much of the technology you speak of Rick has been integrated into the vehicles of today...like the all wheel drive technology that uses the ABS system to detect when one of the wheels is spinning faster than the others hence reducing the power sent to that wheel and vice-versa.

Here's the good news, it will be available for the first time in North America in the spring of 08'.

It has taken on many names over the process,

2007 Nissan GT-R Proto

2007 Nissan skyline

2007 Skyline GTR

2007 Skyline gt-r

2007 Skyline

Nissan GTR PROTO

GTR PROTO

but will be called the "Nissan GTR"

[240turbo]

my personal all around favourite is still any "911" just because they are lower maintenance, not a chore to drive on a regular basis, affordable(relative of course), and I happen to really like the lines and design from beginning to end on that cart.

That having been said the Skyline GT-R is probably the most heralded of the Japanese supercars. Much of the technology you speak of Rick has been integrated into the vehicles of today...like the all wheel drive technology that uses the ABS system to detect when one of the wheels is spinning faster than the others hence reducing the power sent to that wheel and vice-versa.

Here's the good news, it will be available for the first time in North America in the spring of 08'.

It has taken on many names over the process,

2007 Nissan GT-R Proto

2007 Nissan skyline

2007 Skyline GTR

2007 Skyline gt-r

2007 Skyline

Nissan GTR PROTO

GTR PROTO

but will be called the "Nissan GTR"

Spoken like a true car guy... Respect.

You see Pod, this is what I've been talking about the whole time. True car guys respect cars no matter where they are from, because they know the underlying history about them, not just what they look like. True car guys don't say dumb shit Like NoSaleen. Idiots like NOSaleen have no clue but they want to talk and all I do is laugh, because they really don't know anything.

I never claimed to know everything about cars, I learn everyday, that's why my knowledge about cars might seem like a lot compared to others. I research before I talk. Car guy enthusiasm is not measured by dollars or by what car you drive. It's measured by your unbiased enthusiasm, passion and obsession with this fantastic creation they call the automobile. It's either in you or it's not... I can see it in Bruce(Swank), Diogo (alltribalism) Jackie(Oni) and myself. The only thing I see in NoSaleen is the Dildo that goes up his ass every night.

Btw the GTR will debut in Japan next ear and will finally land on US soil in 2008. Watch out ZO6.

[240turbo]

One of the only pieces where I could find someone actually opening up (redlining) one of these monsters on camera...this hillbilly didn't have enough road to even see 4th. but listen to him squeal like a little school girl haha!

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I just love the sound of a turbocharged engine. I wonder how much power that sucker's making with the help of the turbos. The Gallardo already makes 520 hp in stock form. Which is a lot.

Judging by the brutal acceleration and being that it's still driveable, I wouldn't be surprised if he's making upwards of 650 hp. Probably closer to 750 to 800 hp.

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You're pretty harsh on domestics for someone who respects cars no matter where they're from.

I'm not a car guy, but I know good engineers when I see/meet them.

I would tend to trust a vehicle designed by people who invented the automobile, and for whom driving is a religion. You notice there's no need to "trick out" a German vehicle. It just works and kicks ass out of the box. In general, German products tend to expressions of high concept engineering and art. Japan turns out good products but not to the precision of German products.

Of course there's a cost penalty.

Again, not a car guy, but this is how I see it.

[V. Barbarino]

Pod you forgot to mention the fact that Germans cars when they work are great great great cars, but they are garbage interms of quality.

People also need to realize that their are muscle car sports cars (GTO, Mustang, Camaro, Viper, GNX etc) and refined sports cars, like the porsche or vette. I'm a muscle car kind of guy, I respect and appreciate the 911 and Vette, but it's not my thing. I like making my car, my car, having the exact same Stang as everyone else is not fun. Clarkston wrote an article about this, i'll link it up. I do love the vette though, I will buy one next. But I certainly won't bash those other sport cars.

The new skyline will fail, do I need to post another list of Asian sports car that failed?

Why not.

350 z twin turbo

supra twin trubo

eclipse turbo

VR4 Turbo

Probe (won car of the year)

Rx 8

Rx 7

Evo, no one bought it

WRX, not asian per se, great car, but no one bought it

Sport 2000 they cancelled it.

Americans don't and won't buy their sports cars from Asia.

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The only thing I see in NoSaleen is the Dildo that goes up his ass every night.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

U guys are killing me! :D

[Guest ILLMATIC]

For the record.

I drive a 1994 Accord Coupe. Its only 130 HP I hope that doesn't make me any less of a man.

This is my former vehicle.

:-*

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The new skyline will fail, do I need to post another list of Asian sports car that failed?

Why not.

350 z twin turbo

supra twin trubo

eclipse turbo

VR4 Turbo

Probe (won car of the year)

Rx 8

Rx 7

Evo, no one bought it

WRX, not asian per se, great car, but no one bought it

Sport 2000 they cancelled it.

Americans don't and won't buy their sports cars from Asia.

You continue to prove that you have no clue what you're talking about. Your "opinion" does not constitute fact.

The Skyline GT-R will fail like the rest of the Nissan line ? In case you hadn't noticed...Renault partnered with Nissan in 2000 and the cash injection reaped 8 new series or models of vehicles in Nissan and Infiniti. The G-35 in it's first year of sales beat records in terms of sales volume/capita.

You have decided that you will actually admit in print that the "fairlady"(do your research if you're not quite sure) around since the 1970's was a failure.

To that list you include;

- Supra Turbo (hahaha)

- RX-7 (first rotary success)

- WRX ( 300BHP AWD for under $25K )

Asians/Koreans came to this country and built cars to withstand the extremes of our climate, and culture that now perform and hold up better than our own domestic product, in most cases for less money. Their QC (quality control) is far superior to anything we do and our industry knows it. We have no pride in workmanship....c'mon.

They are competing on all levels...sedan,sport,van,suv, shit look around.

And here's the classic -

"Americans don't and won't buy their sports cars from Asia."

You better go tell that to all of the domestic automotive speculators/investors in the industry as well as the thousands of laid off employees and their families.

We're the most powerful nation in the world? How come we can't design "1" automobile to export so that we can create jobs here in the U.S.

save your rhetoric. :

[240turbo]

You're pretty harsh on domestics for someone who respects cars no matter where they're from.

I'm pretty harsh on any car that is garbage. I'm very fair. I'm not biased. You never bothered to ask me what domestics I like. The ones that are actually worth something. I definitely have a soft spot for the old school domestics from the 1960's. That was back when these guys actually designed and engineered their cars with passion and pride. The Shelby mustang, The Corvette Stingray, The Shelby 427 Cobra. I love all these cars.

The truth is, for the past 20 years domestics have been pure junk. The only current domestic that truly earns my respect, is the Z06. Because it is not a one dimensional car. It's is a pure athlete on the racetrack. It's made to handle, not just drag race. But still the interior is low rent compared to the Euro rivals. The Ford GT is just a remake of the 1960's car which was originally designed and Engineered by Ford of England. The engine is just a blown 5.4 liter mustang motor. Hardly any R&D went into that car. And they have the nerve to ask $140k for it? Please.

A true car guy, looks at every detail from a purist's standpoint. And yes we are harsh at times. but that's because we look at a car and look past all the bullshit, and directly at the essentials.

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For the record.

I drive a 1994 Accord Coupe. Its only 130 HP I hope that doesn't make me any less of a man.

This is my former vehicle.

:-*

Dude....if you drove a 1986 Ford Escort, you'd still be the man. You know why? Cuz you can!

For the record...was is that? a 2000-02 750? if so...that' 366lbs of raw juice, in line four with 6 speeds = lots of HP/LBS

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You're pretty harsh on domestics for someone who respects cars no matter where they're from.

I'm pretty harsh on any car that is garbage. I'm very fair. I'm not biased. You never bothered to ask me what domestics I like. The ones that are actually worth something. I definitely have a soft spot for the old school domestics from the 1960's. That was back when these guys actually designed and engineered their cars with passion and pride. The Shelby mustang' date=' The Corvette Stingray, The Shelby 427 Cobra. I love all these cars.

The truth is, for the past 20 years domestics have been pure junk. The only current domestic that truly earns my respect, is the Z06. Because it is not a one dimensional car. It's is a pure athlete on the racetrack. It's made to handle, not just drag race. But still the interior is low rent compared to the Euro rivals. The Ford GT is just a remake of the 1960's car which was originally designed and Engineered by Ford of England. The engine is just a blown 5.4 liter mustang motor. Hardly any R&D went into that car. And they have the nerve to ask $140k for it? Please.

A true car guy, looks at every detail from a purist's standpoint. And yes we are harsh at times. but that's because we look at a car and look past all the bullshit, and directly at the essentials.

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I LOVE this car!

[240turbo]

You notice there's no need to "trick out" a German vehicle.

Of course there's a cost penalty.

Wrong again. You just showed me that you have no clue about the aftermarket tuning industry. Do you think that the power hungry sickos out there find the 480 hp from a 911 turbo enough? These guys are already tuning that car to close to 1000 hp. (Just to let you know supra turbo motors are handling the same amount of power without having to open up or strenghten the engine, if you question the durability of japanese engines. And the most powerful supras out there with built motors are making well north of 1500 hp. Not only Germans can make power. )

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You notice there's no need to "trick out" a German vehicle.

Of course there's a cost penalty.

Wrong again. You just showed me that you have no clue about the aftermarket tuning industry. Do you think that the power hungry sickos out there find the 480 hp from a 911 turbo enough? These guys are already tuning that car to close to 1000 hp. (Just to let you know supra turbo motors are handling the same amount of power without having to open up or strenghten the engine' date=' if you question the durability of japanese engines. And the most powerful supras out there with built motors are making well north of 1500 hp. Not only Germans can make power. )

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I don't think POD was making a statement as much as he was making a comment. He never pretended to have ties to the inner sanctum of the automotive industry. He might have just forgotten about AMG or Brabus etc.

I know one thing though...I have a Canon sureshot...and not an SLR so I won't be challenging POD when it comes to lighting or shutter speeds and the sort. LOL

[V. Barbarino]

The new skyline will fail, do I need to post another list of Asian sports car that failed?

Why not.

350 z twin turbo

supra twin trubo

eclipse turbo

VR4 Turbo

Probe (won car of the year)

Rx 8

Rx 7

Evo, no one bought it

WRX, not asian per se, great car, but no one bought it

Sport 2000 they cancelled it.

Americans don't and won't buy their sports cars from Asia.

You continue to prove that you have no clue what you're talking about. Your "opinion" does not constitute fact.

The Skyline GT-R will fail like the rest of the Nissan line ? In case you hadn't noticed...Renault partnered with Nissan in 2000 and the cash injection reaped 8 new series or models of vehicles in Nissan and Infiniti. The G-35 in it's first year of sales beat records in terms of sales volume/capita.

You have decided that you will actually admit in print that the "fairlady"(do your research if you're not quite sure) around since the 1970's was a failure.

To that list you include;

- Supra Turbo (hahaha)

- RX-7 (first rotary success)

- WRX ( 300BHP AWD for under $25K )

Asians/Koreans came to this country and built cars to withstand the extremes of our climate, and culture that now perform and hold up better than our own domestic product, in most cases for less money. Their QC (quality control) is far superior to anything we do and our industry knows it. We have no pride in workmanship....c'mon.

They are competing on all levels...sedan,sport,van,suv, shit look around.

And here's the classic -

"Americans don't and won't buy their sports cars from Asia."

You better go tell that to all of the domestic automotive speculators/investors in the industry as well as the thousands of laid off employees and their families.

We're the most powerful nation in the world? How come we can't design "1" automobile to export so that we can create jobs here in the U.S.

save your rhetoric. :

Ok, so can I buy any of those cars listed execpt for the EvO and WRX??

Nope, every single one of them was either cancelled or turned into a chick car with a 4 banger and no option for the bigger power.

Why did this happen?

Add the NSX to the list as well.

ps. please define what sales per capita means?

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You notice there's no need to "trick out" a German vehicle.

Of course there's a cost penalty.

Wrong again. You just showed me that you have no clue about the aftermarket tuning industry. Do you think that the power hungry sickos out there find the 480 hp from a 911 turbo enough? These guys are already tuning that car to close to 1000 hp. (Just to let you know supra turbo motors are handling the same amount of power without having to open up or strenghten the engine' date=' if you question the durability of japanese engines. And the most powerful supras out there with built motors are making well north of 1500 hp. Not only Germans can make power. )

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1520 to the wheels which should be 1800 to the crank on a 3.4liter inline 6

im sure that block will take 2000 maybe more to the crank, the t88s have the ability to flow like a bitch, the 1500hp to the wheels record set by sp was done on race gas only no methanol, w/ methanol they will able to run higher boost, that car was not spraying either....im still waiting to see when someone comes out w/ the 3.6 stroker w/ that new 100mm compressor that flows better than a 91mm, i know its all bragging rights, but man that is just pure amazing.

again its not a 20 liter underpowered V8

nosaleen is a disgrace to the true domestic diehard enthusiast...i know alot of domestic guys on different boards that own supras, type r's, 911's, u name it!

this guy(nosaleen) is a joke, don't waste your time

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The new skyline will fail, do I need to post another list of Asian sports car that failed?

Why not.

350 z twin turbo

supra twin trubo

eclipse turbo

VR4 Turbo

Probe (won car of the year)

Rx 8

Rx 7

Evo, no one bought it

WRX, not asian per se, great car, but no one bought it

Sport 2000 they cancelled it.

Americans don't and won't buy their sports cars from Asia.

You continue to prove that you have no clue what you're talking about. Your "opinion" does not constitute fact.

The Skyline GT-R will fail like the rest of the Nissan line ? In case you hadn't noticed...Renault partnered with Nissan in 2000 and the cash injection reaped 8 new series or models of vehicles in Nissan and Infiniti. The G-35 in it's first year of sales beat records in terms of sales volume/capita.

You have decided that you will actually admit in print that the "fairlady"(do your research if you're not quite sure) around since the 1970's was a failure.

To that list you include;

- Supra Turbo (hahaha)

- RX-7 (first rotary success)

- WRX ( 300BHP AWD for under $25K )

Asians/Koreans came to this country and built cars to withstand the extremes of our climate, and culture that now perform and hold up better than our own domestic product, in most cases for less money. Their QC (quality control) is far superior to anything we do and our industry knows it. We have no pride in workmanship....c'mon.

They are competing on all levels...sedan,sport,van,suv, shit look around.

And here's the classic -

"Americans don't and won't buy their sports cars from Asia."

You better go tell that to all of the domestic automotive speculators/investors in the industry as well as the thousands of laid off employees and their families.

We're the most powerful nation in the world? How come we can't design "1" automobile to export so that we can create jobs here in the U.S.

save your rhetoric. :

Ok, so can I buy any of those cars listed execpt for the EvO and WRX??

Nope, every single one of them was either cancelled or turned into a chick car with a 4 banger and no option for the bigger power.

Why did this happen?

Add the NSX to the list as well.

ps. please define what sales per capita means?

I thought you were a degreed 'financial wizard' as well as a club legend?

The retail industry will take a 'census' from the completed sales of their domain. This information is gathered in many ways. In the automotive industry this information is gathered by the DMV when a vehicle is registered...so based on a zipcode , vehicle category and model they can determine what the total 'VEHICLES SOLD PER CAPITA' were in the specific category vs. the competition in very specific and targeted regions.

In the case of the G-35 it's competition at the time were vehicles like the 3.2TL, 3 Series, MB C Class, Volvo S series, Saab 9.3, Audi A4-6 etc. and they beat all of their competition hands down. All dealerships have access to this information in their territories...so for example all GM stores can tell how many Honda Civics or Mazda 3's sold to compete with their Cavaliers or whatever they call them now.

I don't have the time to waste on comments about discontinued models...that's just ridiculous. Why don't you do the research yourself on discontinued domestics....you might turn up some old favourites of yours. Stop making stupid comments and digging yourself a deeper hole...quit while you're ahead.

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I'm gonna be busy for the next couple of days...so I'd better just go ahead and post my reply right away. ;D

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