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NOT ONLY DO NY CLUBS HAVE BETTER SETUPS, MUSIC, AND DJ'S BUT THEY ARE OPEN MUCH LATER, I GOTO NY CLUBS EVERY WEEKEND I MEAN I GET OUT OF WORK AT 11 PM ON THE WEEKENDS AND ALL NJ CLUBS CLOSE AT 2 WHICH IS SO STUPID ANYONE ELSE AGREE? I'M FROM NJ BUT MY HEART BELONGS WITH NY LOL WHY MUST OUR CHEESY CLUBS CLOSE SO EARLY I MEAN THE DRIVE TO THE CITY IS A PAIN, BUT IT IS SO WORTH IT!

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Originally posted by guccigrlnyc

NOT ONLY DO NY CLUBS HAVE BETTER SETUPS, MUSIC, AND DJ'S BUT THEY ARE OPEN MUCH LATER, I GOTO NY CLUBS EVERY WEEKEND I MEAN I GET OUT OF WORK AT 11 PM ON THE WEEKENDS AND ALL NJ CLUBS CLOSE AT 2 WHICH IS SO STUPID ANYONE ELSE AGREE? I'M FROM NJ BUT MY HEART BELONGS WITH NY LOL WHY MUST OUR CHEESY CLUBS CLOSE SO EARLY I MEAN THE DRIVE TO THE CITY IS A PAIN, BUT IT IS SO WORTH IT!

ooooooooh, ouch babe, please dont bad mouth jersey clubs... and just how OLD are you? u sound really young... what clubs do you go to in NJ that u d feel u are not getting your money's worth? and the 2 o'clock closing is not the clubs and bars choice, it the town, now NY, they have cabaret license there that lets them stay open even after they stop serving alcohol. so there.

happy dancing

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Originally posted by guccigrlnyc

NOT ONLY DO NY CLUBS HAVE BETTER SETUPS, MUSIC, AND DJ'S BUT THEY ARE OPEN MUCH LATER, I GOTO NY CLUBS EVERY WEEKEND I MEAN I GET OUT OF WORK AT 11 PM ON THE WEEKENDS AND ALL NJ CLUBS CLOSE AT 2 WHICH IS SO STUPID ANYONE ELSE AGREE? I'M FROM NJ BUT MY HEART BELONGS WITH NY LOL WHY MUST OUR CHEESY CLUBS CLOSE SO EARLY I MEAN THE DRIVE TO THE CITY IS A PAIN, BUT IT IS SO WORTH IT!

Mr saleen list of reasons why NJ and NYC club scenes are failing.

1. Over commercialization > everyone is a DJ nowadays

2. Urban Sprawl, more and more ppl are leaving the urban areas for more rural areas, aka NYC is not the central cohesive glue that holds the northeast together anymore....

3. Cheep travel, even before 9-11 more ppl are willing to get on a plane and go party somewhere else.

4. More emerging markets in the last few years.

5. Lack of distinction between clubs

6. Gimmicks by clubs and promoters

7. Value, not there anymore

8. Baby boomers who built the entertainment business are calling it quits and moving to warm areas to play golf, therefore there is huge lack of capital spending

9. Drugs< not cool to do anymore and harsh concenquences of being caught with them

10. Lack of personal attention to patrons

11. Greed< example selling more tickets for NYE then the club can hold.

12. DWI laws and enforcement< i'm not saying this is bad, but its a deterant.

13. Foreign competiton. Aka mexico, drink at 18, Ibiza drugs drugs drugs.

14. Clubs are viewed the same way as porn shops are...an eye sore on a community, which in NJ is probaly afluent due to the fact NJ is the richest state per capita

15. Ologopolistic market< few control the market and barriers to entry problems

16. Clubs are competing with them selves, aka Djs and bunka, xs and temps, merge and metro etc.... As the big 3 in Detroit learned this is not profitable in the long run. You can't have 2 ford dealerships down the road for one another, or they will try and out sell each other, its called Arbitrage.....

My solutions to these problems is simple:

In order for the club scene in NJ to further better its self we need a lesson in Principles of Macro Econ......

Look on every intersection , your bound to see 3 different gas stations all owed by different companies...

On any road you can see burgerking, wendys, Mickey D's,

Every wonder why car dealerships are right next to each other?

Well its called a pure competitive market, and we the patrons gain when a market is full of competition.

the burger joints bring inovation and value, because they have to. for them to survive.

Jenks just bought water works and a pier in SSH, another great example of a few controling the market.....WE the patron loose in this situation.

We need more indepently owned clubs and the club scene will thrive like you've never seen, we as patrons are cattle or numbers to the door guys, back a long time ago we were customers!

I'm really stoned so I hope non of yous read all the way threw this.

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Originally posted by sweetumzz

i could have fun in a cardboard box :D

Thats probably the best response Ive seen in a long time. If your having trouble enjoying yourself when you go out, maybe its not the club, maybe its you. Just something to think about their guccigirl(?)

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I think it is all about what you feel like doing for the night.......

if you just want to make it an easy drinking night than Jersey is the best place to be.......the crowds are clean, and the music is still good esp in north/central jersey.........

if you are into the afterhours scene, you are left with no choice but to travel to NYC........but in NYC when u go to these afterhours places you don't know what is what (who is a guy and who is a girl).....The crowds are so shady and dirty looking sometimes......Hemafrodites, drags walking around, young kids in adidas pants with glowsticks....it makes u want to go home and pour boiling water over your head and sterilize yourself...... Where as jersey clubs you feel a lot more comfortable.....

SF is the only NYC club i will go to now, and the crowds everywhere in NY have only gotten more dirty and shady......not excluding SF in anyway of the crowds.....(nothing will beat the crowds there in 98-99

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Originally posted by cmb1975

Thats probably the best response Ive seen in a long time. If your having trouble enjoying yourself when you go out, maybe its not the club, maybe its you. Just something to think about their guccigirl(?)

You're right on point cmb..... :)

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lmfao

djdan wrote hemaphrodites...

still lmao

i would love to the look on dan's face when he found out...were you already nekkid???

anyways i don't really drink and why not invite everyone to your party???why make it so exclusive to older peeps straight peeps...i'm 32 and i love chillin with everyone makin freinds even if it is only for one nite cuz i may never see that person again...i don't care if they are young/white/black/gay/strait/or if they have both sets of tools...i'm not there to hook up with anyone..i'm there to party and to dance my ass off

i like sf allot but vynil be yourself parties are my fave..i go for the dj and dt makes up these rediculous mixes as he is goin along that make it sound so right..why hear the same thing over n over again

i was goin to checkout scribbles on friday cuz i was impressed with what he was spinnin on ktu...my mistake was listenen to him more than 3 times...it was like he recorded a 2 hours set and played it back over n over

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Originally posted by kirklop

SALEEN............................JESSE JAMES IS THE KING........

THERE ARE A FEW HOLES IN YOUR LIST......WHEN I GET HOME FROM CHANGING LIGHTBULBS I'LL CORRECT IT FOR YOU...

Yea Jessie James has become a legend in only 2 short years, his work is amazing.....Your corrections shall be interesting.

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Originally posted by sprincess218

"If your having trouble enjoying yourself when you go out, maybe its not the club, maybe its you. Just something to think about their guccigirl(?)"

DING DING DING We have a winner!!!

Has anyone been to Colleseum on a Thursday? I have the BEST time when I go there!

Just an FYI, i think you may be new to these parts. YOu can quote someone by hitting the little button that says quote at the bottom of that persons post.

This way you get the bolded quote....as seen above!!!

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Saleen your list i think was the first intelligent post i ever read from you lol....But hes the big problem about have independent ownership...

Lack of $$$. Small indepented owners cant compete with larger venues. They can not always offer what large clubs in both NJ and NY can offer. DOnt get me wrong i have been to alot of those smaller clubs/bars/lounges and its just not the same. And this isnt always a bad thing. I think now these independent wanna be club owners look at these bigger more successful clubs and think they can do the same thing. And what winds up happening is they buy some airtime thinking that alone will get ppl into their place they put there life savings into the place and wind up losing everything.

They think they are going to make millions of dollars like the larger clubs and really have do idea how to run a nite club especially when there is so much competition around them

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Originally posted by shockwavepromo

Saleen your list i think was the first intelligent post i ever read from you lol....But hes the big problem about have independent ownership...

Lack of $$$. Small indepented owners cant compete with larger venues. They can not always offer what large clubs in both NJ and NY can offer. DOnt get me wrong i have been to alot of those smaller clubs/bars/lounges and its just not the same. And this isnt always a bad thing. I think now these independent wanna be club owners look at these bigger more successful clubs and think they can do the same thing. And what winds up happening is they buy some airtime thinking that alone will get ppl into their place they put there life savings into the place and wind up losing everything.

They think they are going to make millions of dollars like the larger clubs and really have do idea how to run a nite club especially when there is so much competition around them

Your exactly right, but these small time guys need to crawl before they walk. Small time venues can provide what the big guys can't, and that is service. Small mom and pop resturantes treat you much much better then some god damm corp garbage, I only eat at non corprate places....I go to one place and the owner says hello all the time, he appreciates my business, big time clubs don't. Thats why I think those support your local club posts are BS, why should I line the pockets of some rich guy? Point is you can be succesful if you have the right idea. Apple compter was started in a garage for 50 bucks,Bloomberg had one office now hes a billion aire. PPl love to think that rich were rich and will be rich, and they are just always gonna be middle class. In the movie wallstreet michale douglas talked about how ppl thought he pulled a rabbit out of a hat , and thats how he got rich, basically meaning luck, there is no luck just creative minds.....

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Originally posted by cmb1975

Just an FYI, i think you may be new to these parts. YOu can quote someone by hitting the little button that says quote at the bottom of that persons post.

This way you get the bolded quote....as seen above!!!

I knew that, I just was too lazy to hit back so I copy and pasted...;)

Thanks, dollface!:)

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Some people are quitting all night drug fests in the city to experiment with a newpractice called sleep. Doctors ay this "sleep" leads to productivity and a "healthy " look. Not to be an old man or anything, but there comes a time when partying to 10 am is not as cool as it used to be. Jersey clubs kick ass. If your not having a good time in Jersey your either not going to the right places or your friends suck. Because as far a as I'm concerned I could go to Pub 46 with my friends and have a great time.

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Originally posted by boywonder77

Some people are quitting all night drug fests in the city to experiment with a newpractice called sleep. Doctors ay this "sleep" leads to productivity and a "healthy " look. Not to be an old man or anything, but there comes a time when partying to 10 am is not as cool as it used to be. Jersey clubs kick ass. If your not having a good time in Jersey your either not going to the right places or your friends suck. Because as far a as I'm concerned I could go to Pub 46 with my friends and have a great time.

Well said, honey!

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Originally posted by boywonder77

Some people are quitting all night drug fests in the city to experiment with a newpractice called sleep. Doctors ay this "sleep" leads to productivity and a "healthy " look. Not to be an old man or anything, but there comes a time when partying to 10 am is not as cool as it used to be. Jersey clubs kick ass. If your not having a good time in Jersey your either not going to the right places or your friends suck. Because as far a as I'm concerned I could go to Pub 46 with my friends and have a great time.

HHAHAHAAH Pub 46!!!! I go there lol

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Originally posted by boywonder77

Some people are quitting all night drug fests in the city to experiment with a newpractice called sleep. Doctors ay this "sleep" leads to productivity and a "healthy " look. Not to be an old man or anything, but there comes a time when partying to 10 am is not as cool as it used to be. Jersey clubs kick ass. If your not having a good time in Jersey your either not going to the right places or your friends suck. Because as far a as I'm concerned I could go to Pub 46 with my friends and have a great time.

lol! thats funny! im a big fan of sleep,and i do agree about pub 46, only i like cagneys (in sayreville) as a non-club hang out! :)

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Originally posted by boywonder77

Some people are quitting all night drug fests in the city to experiment with a newpractice called sleep. Doctors ay this "sleep" leads to productivity and a "healthy " look. Not to be an old man or anything, but there comes a time when partying to 10 am is not as cool as it used to be. Jersey clubs kick ass. If your not having a good time in Jersey your either not going to the right places or your friends suck. Because as far a as I'm concerned I could go to Pub 46 with my friends and have a great time.

AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! So true, so true!!! Im not old by any means, but Im too old to be staying up all hours of the night and feeling like crap for 2 days.

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Originally posted by guccigrlnyc

NOT ONLY DO NY CLUBS HAVE BETTER SETUPS, MUSIC, AND DJ'S BUT THEY ARE OPEN MUCH LATER, I GOTO NY CLUBS EVERY WEEKEND I MEAN I GET OUT OF WORK AT 11 PM ON THE WEEKENDS AND ALL NJ CLUBS CLOSE AT 2 WHICH IS SO STUPID ANYONE ELSE AGREE? I'M FROM NJ BUT MY HEART BELONGS WITH NY LOL WHY MUST OUR CHEESY CLUBS CLOSE SO EARLY I MEAN THE DRIVE TO THE CITY IS A PAIN, BUT IT IS SO WORTH IT!

no offense but you don't sound like you've been clubbing too long.......if so, I'm sure this is nothing new.

but anyhow, I agree with the others.......you can have fun in either place.......all depends on what you make of it and who you're with......:D

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