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The problem is that m-w.com gives a terrible definition.

They should of said Unauthorized access instead of illegal - legality is a seperate supject. If I "hacked my way into" osama bin ladens server in afghanistan, what would be illegal about that? What about if I gained unauthorized access to a friends bank account. If he didnt press charges would it still be illegal?

I found some more correct defs:

hacker:tongue:

<person, jargon> (Originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe) 1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary.

2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming.

3. A person capable of appreciating hack value.

4. A person who is good at programming quickly.

5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; as in "a Unix hacker". (Definitions 1 through 5 are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.)

6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy hacker, for example.

7. One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations.

8. (Deprecated) A malicious meddler who tries to discover sensitive information by poking around. Hence "password hacker", "network hacker". The correct term is cracker.

The term "hacker" also tends to connote membership in the global community defined by the net (see The Network and Internet address). It also implies that the person described is seen to subscribe to some version of the hacker ethic.

It is better to be described as a hacker by others than to describe oneself that way. Hackers consider themselves something of an elite (a meritocracy based on ability), though one to which new members are gladly welcome. Thus while it is gratifying to be called a hacker, false claimants to the title are quickly labelled as "bogus" or a "wannabee".

9. (University of Maryland, rare) A programmer who does not understand proper programming techniques and principles and doesn't have a Computer Science degree. Someone who just bangs on the keyboard until something happens. For example, "This program is nothing but spaghetti code. It must have been written by a hacker".

[Jargon File]

(1996-08-26)

Source: The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, © 1993-2001 Denis Howe

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hope this clears up some confusion. :)

- javi404

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Its funny cause I had some guy in a chat room a couple of mins ago telling me "Teach me how to hack" lol Its like some one comming up to a lawyer and asking "teach me all the laws"

He tells me "what do I do at the telnet prompt once I connect?"

I told him to go read and to stop bitching.

off the subject --- does anyone else in hear think that taking drugs is like hacking into your brain?

maybe i should of put that in the substance abuse threads

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