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  1. Just got home after closing it out.

    Missed Vath, unfortunately -- got there at 5:15 (though I did see him running around with a toilet seat around his neck and a record case on his head... WTF???)

    Hawtin rocked! Techno and tech house... mmm mmm good! I haven't danced that much in weeks! This was definitely my best night at Arc/Vinyl all year!!!

    Kudos to all the CP heads who stuck it out... always fun to get down with people you know...

    Nice thing is, I slept 6 hours before heading out, so I don't feel the slightest bit cracked out! I always wanted to try that... I'll definitely be doing that again... got there just as the crowd was starting to thin out, so I had room to dance the whole night!

    Summary: it was good. I had fun. Yes.

  2. Originally posted by weyes

    hoke, a few things: if someone told you you couldn't wear anything you happened to like - you like things because they're comfortable or because you think they look good on you, plain and simple - what would you do? and, how would you like it if all women only wore long-sleeved, turtlenecked, floor-length, waistless dresses, with no contouring whatsoever? would that be satisfactory?

    and tastyt is correct, men will yell perverse things at you, no matter how good or how shitty you look.

    I would hate it if I couldn't wear clothes I like, but I'm not telling anyone they can't or shouldn't. I'm just saying, if you wear tight clothes, you will get harassed. IT IS NOT RIGHT, I NEVER SAID IT WAS. But that's the way it is.

    Umm... I don't want women to wear frumpy clothing. Whatever gave you that idea? I like to see women in attractive clothes. I guess I don't understand the point of that question -- it seems like you think I *want* women to cover their bodies. Not at all!

    Yeah, I know guys will be dicks whatever you wear. But you have to admit, tight clothing increases the likelihood.

    AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT HARASSMENT IS RIGHT, OR DESERVED, OR WOMEN "ASKED FOR IT." There is definitely a line to be drawn between flattery and harassment (as others have been saying), and I think that many women dress up because it draws flattery. Unfortunately, it will also draw harassment. It would be nice if that weren't so, but it is.

  3. Originally posted by phatman

    ...not for nothing but you seem to come to this conclusion quite often...why do you insist this board is unfair?..and if you truly believe this why do you continue to maintain lengthy "debates" on this board...

    I don't think this board is "unfair" and I'm not trying to have "debates." I'm TRYING to have intelligent conversations, but they tend to degenerate into arguments. I think that's sad. There are a few very bright and insightful people on the boards, and we could have some really great conversations if we all tried...

    I guess I keep doing it because every now and then, I *do* have a great discussion, and I've even made friends that way... so I suppose the long-term benefits outweigh the short-term frustration.

    *shrug*

  4. Originally posted by tastyt

    OMG give it a rest already... I seem to recall that I'm not the only one who has noticed you dissecting things way too much... either way, I'm out... drink some warm milk, down a shot of vodka, take a xanax, amything, but chill man, the weekend is here, time to relax...

    YOU telling ME to give it a rest? lol... that's a good one! You jumped down MY throat, remember? I've merely been trying to explain myself this whole time... and you have yet to give me a simple benefit of the doubt...

    I guess that's too much to ask around here.

  5. Originally posted by tastyt

    Good god... I can't believe all this quibbling was over semantics... and yes it was semantics...

    No.

    It is NOT semantics.

    I asked the question, I know what I meant, and I've been trying to explain that to you... do you really think you understand my own question better than I do?

    any other person would accept "it's comfortable" and understand that people like to wear things that are comfortable, no?

    Even if there are people who just like to wear comfortable clothes, if you read back to MY FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD, you'll see that I'm talking about people who use style as a form of SELF-EXPRESSION. "I like it" and "it's comfortable" do NOT address that question...

    Either way, I for one never said that women like to wear them because it was comfortable so now I am quibbling over semantics over something I never even said!

    I never said that you in particular said that... so feel free to stop arguing about it at any time.

  6. Originally posted by tastyt

    ...semantics... and unless I'm mistaken that's not his problem with the answer either...

    It's not semantics -- it's an entirely different question if you phrase it that way.

    And you ARE mistaken. The way I see it, there is nothing introspective about "I like it" or "I feel comfortable in it." Those are very vague answers; they don't say anything about you as a person.

  7. Originally posted by wideskies

    see..

    his question is not "what about tight clothes makes you wear them" but "what about YOU makes you wear tight clothes"...

    the only way "comfort" could be an answer is if you said "well wearing tight clothes expresses the comfortable side of myself" or something.

    Thank you. :)

  8. Originally posted by tastyt

    Velvet has a point... well, maybe except for that last bit... :confused:

    Um, no (and I'm pretty sure VGM was joking, btw... correct me if I'm wrong...)

    "I like it" and "I feel comfortable in it" are weak answers that don't address my question at all.

    romy20 and wideskies both gave very honest answers. They're both saying, "I wear X because I want to achieve Y, or express Z about myself."

    That's what I've been asking for all along.

  9. Originally posted by wideskies

    i wear tight shirts because it accentuates the fact that my vibrant energy is PUSHING and STRAINING to get out, and i am nearly SPRINGING out of my clothes with delight in being alive

    i wear loose pants because i like to express the easy-going, laid-back part of my personality that is evident when i'm content and comfortable with myself

    i wear no makeup because it indicates that i try to be upfront and honest in my interactions rather than hiding behind some sort of mask

    i wear black when i want to draw attention to my moods and expressions rather than my physical self (which is most of the time)

    i wear my sunglasses at night...

    Good answers... :)

  10. Originally posted by sweetie029

    Exactly...& there's nothing wrong with that...just the way there's nothing wrong with a woman wanting to wear a tight pair of jeans

    JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! I NEVER SAID THERE WAS ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT!!!!

  11. Originally posted by sweetie029

    Yea...so women buy clothes that look good on them....ummm...is there a problem with that ?? Yea they fit good & they look good as well crucify us now!!! No..we don't buy them because of the attention we might possibly get, we buy them because WE like they way they look on us...

    I'm not criticizing you, so there's no need to get defensive.

    I feel like I'm not really getting at what I wanted to know... I wanted to know what it was about certain women that made them like tight clothes in particular. Okay, so you say they look good... but some women think slacks look good... or loose skirts... or any number of other styles...

    I guess people just aren't interested in thinking about this one...

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