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I'm not going to argue the similarities anymore really, but I will say that 10 mgs never put me in a near rolling state... I prefer 30-90 mg dosages.

Ughh.... railing vics is the worst, worst burn I've had.... definitely not worth it in my opinion... eating a few of em mellows me out for sure though. I like pharmies.

Hehehe.... I still don't know if that was a liq... $20 is a pretty sweet price, a liq usually means when you buy the liquid form, with the picture of the sedated cat on the box...

I wish I knew... I wish I knew.... They are great! I wish I had some for the WMC, they'd really help pull me through.

Never heard of em... I thought you misspelled it... That is weird though, I don't understand how an enhanced reuptake would help... maybe it makes the uptake more selective than an SSRI. I'm interested in knowing more....

Hey Trainwrecked, what's up? I don't know exactly the potency variation between Salvia extract and leaves, it partially depends on which extract you purchase. There's a good amount of salvia information available at Erowid.com. What part of Rhode Island are you from?

Agreed, moderation is always the key. Also, I agree that its got a lot to do with just something "in your head". I managed to make the "glow" last close to a week at most.... I was out of work and dealing MJ, so I stayed pretty freakin happy.

Well, I won't tell you that you're wrong, because I think you're pretty right, but, you have to bear in mind that that's a bit extreme. I mean, if for my first e experience I stayed up for three days, I don't think I would be in my right state of mind either, something would probably get a little freaky come day 3 and I probably wouldn't want to try it again. Second of all, I will say honestly that I really am not aware of the liver damage associated with Adderall, but I would be willing to wager that its less than E, and I think you'd agree. And as far as brain damage, well come on now, seriously, there's no way you can say that a perscription drug given to millions of americans is worse than a illicit substance manufactured from paints and miscellaneous chemicals by some stranger. Paranoia is a possible risk of almost any drug, so I don't think its really fair to seperate Adderall for that quality. Weed causes paranoia, so does vicoden, allergy medicine, coffee, E, and acid. You can't really say Adderall is the devil for it, its just the nature of getting fucked up, I'm sorry to say. If you know yourself to be susceptible to panic attacks or paranoia I do not recommend Adderall for you, but I also don't recommend any of the others above. I totally agree with you on most of your other points, and not having done real meth, I really can't say that it seems like meth, I have done E, and it seems similar to me. By your description, though, and others, I concur that it may be a closer high to meth. As far as dealers, no, you're not going to find em just anywhere, but it is commonly prescribed, so it shouldn't be that hard to find someone who's got it... its really popular on college campus' and some college psychiatrists hand em out like candy. I've never gotten them there, but I've heard they're abundant. Of course the other option is seeing if you qualify as ADD or HDD, and getting a script of your own. I've never had any kind of back pain associated with Adderall, I'm not doubting that you felt something, but I wouldn't associate it with Adderall use. As far as body pain, I've never gotten any off of Adderall. It seems like you have a pretty rough experience on it.

Glow, huh? That's a cool name for it. I definitley get the glow... I don't roll anymore, but when I did, I always got it for at least 24 hours... sometimes more... I used to love the days after. Just sitting back and smiling with a joint in my hand... I've heard of people who have bad days afterwards, but that was never the case with me, it was always an extension of the party. I'd get up feeling like a million bucks, and the feeling would remain.

In my experience, there is some shelf life on shrooms... yours might not be quite as potent. I took some that had been around for a week, and they weren't really that effective. However, I've had a little limited shrooms experience, so somebody might have a more precise answer.

Well, I can see what you're saying, and I'm not trying to say that Adderall is a hallucigen, or that it can be sold as E. Obviously, there is a difference between the two. As far as the light show question, I do enjoy glowstix immensely when I'm on Adderall, and focusing on dancing in general. As you said, as far as empathy goes, no, but it definitely makes me more social, and that's a bit of the E experience. Of course, it also doesn't do nearly as much brain or liver damage, so that's the trade-off. Like I said originally, though, i understand everyone else does not feel this way about Adderall, especially those of you who have used it solely as a study tool. Where I'm coming from is having taken Adderall the first time the next day after rolling, I liked it tremendously, and I'm being completely honest with you, I would take 60 Mgs of Adderall anyday over a Mitsubishi. Its always been euphoric for me... To each his own, though, and you and I are merely speaking from our own experiences and we both know how individual each experiment is from person to person.

In clubs its sold by the bump usually... outside its sold in vials (uncooked) or jars (cooked, possibly cut).

Adderall IS like E. To quote you, "it gives you energy and a little bit of euphoria"... thats a little like E. Adderall is SIMILAR to ritalin, just like asprin is similar to vidocen. Ritalin is a weaker dosage. As far as the euphoria of the experience goes, I personally enjoy being concentrated, and it leads me to experience a good deal of euphoria on Adderall, which stems from the fact that I look to my drugs as an accompanyment to a pleasant evening. I suppose if you find yourself to be more dependant on getting the euphoria purely from your drugs, and not your experience, than Adderall is not the substitute for you. However, if you're the type of person who also enjoys going to clubs and parties straight, Adderall is most likely going to give you a lot of energy and euphoria, especially if what you're experiencing is something that brings you euphoria naturally.

I've heard it called 'trolling" as well as those names. My first experience: Ate about a quarter of mushrooms, munching on them over the course of three or four hours, ingested E about one hour into it. It felt really good, body wise, and everything was going well, but I blacked out and pissed myself, so maybe it was too much. Nice while it lasted tho!

I totally understand how some people do not feel similar effects to E on Adderral. It takes a little more "release", similar to partying straight, you have to push yourself a little bit, and have a little love to start off with, but once it gets going, it does the work. Like I said, I've always gotten a good deal of euphoria from the effects of Adderall. As far as the nasal/oral question, I do know a lot of people that blow them, but I wouldn't recommend it, orally will work fine, last longer, and hurt less. It depends on the Mg dosage what effects you're going to feel from whichever method of ingestion. Be Safe!

Adderall is basically a concentration drug. In my personal experience, its very much like rolling, except better because it isn't nearly as destructive to your mind. Also in my experience Adderall can be more enlightening, the feeling is similar to rolling, but instead of being oblivious and happy, you're concentrated and happy (energetic, too). I highly recommend trying it to anyone who Djs or produces. You'll definitely be on point.

Now that you mention it, I do remember being pretty disoriented the day after a couple times robotrippin. Sorry I didn't remember soon enough to warn you.

I'll be standing on the corner of Jefferson and Williams with a huge bag of pills wearing a red hat. Don't worry, this message board is totally anonymous, so no one will know.

I really don't see how quality of weed is anything at all to argue about... seems like pointless drama to me, especially since there's ABSOLUTELEY NO WAY any one person can know about the entire marijuana supply of any one state, never mind two states. Never mind factoring in the fact that the flow of illlicit drugs is a constant changing force.

Hehehe.... i can definitely see how that could get outa control... that movie's pretty crazy (pretty good, too). To some extent, it can be psychosematic, but only you know yourself, and it CAN in some cases by a medical trait you possess. Not uncommon, tho, obviously.

Hehehe.... at least Ketamine is relatively safe for one species of living thing... unlike E. I'm not trying to bust your balls, or preach, I just think your statement makes you seem dissalussioned about the damage associated with both of those substances... Yes, Ketamine is originally used for medical practice on animals, but the originial ingredients ingrained in ecstasy are used to paint houses. Think about it. I prefer E to K myself, too... K never really did much for me unless I mixed it with acid and E.

mmmmm... medicine....

Hmmm... that's good No2 info to have XTCVitality, I never knew the excact facts... does that hold true for most other compressed air processes, or just No2?

Like all hallucigens, shrooms are user/situation specific tho.... i've been farther out than I ever got with acid on only a 16th of shrooms before.

But, in my case at least, its not a little thing, its like the bud is covered in flint... I dunno if you've ever lit shavings of flint on fire... I'd be inclined to go with the "illy" diagnosis, but what else have you people seen that does that?