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Turn off Michael Moore of the and turn on the news......it's all over....or wait until next years history books are pressed. Nov 3, 3:44 PM (ET) Standing at his desk in the Oval Office, President George W. Bush receives a phone call from... Full Image By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush won re-election to a second four-year term over Democratic Sen. John Kerry on Wednesday and promised deeply divided Americans he would earn their support and trust. "A new term is a new opportunity to reach out to the whole nation," he said in a victory speech in Washington. "When we come together and work together, there is no limit to the greatness of America." Speaking directly to supporters of Kerry, Bush said: "I will need your support, and I will work to earn it. I will do all I can to deserve your trust." Bush clinched victory in a bitter eight-month struggle for the White House when Kerry ended the suspense of a vote-counting battle in the decisive state of Ohio and conceded the election. Kerry called Bush and later told supporters in Boston's historic Faneuil Hall that "I hope we can begin the healing." In a dispute that evoked memories of the prolonged election recount in Florida in 2000, delays in counting provisional and absentee ballots in Ohio had postponed the final outcome of the presidential election for hours. Ohio's 20 electoral votes were the final hurdle to Bush capturing an Electoral College majority of 270 votes after a divisive campaign that focused on the war in Iraq, the battle against global terrorism and the economy. "I would not give up this fight if there was a chance we could prevail," an emotional Kerry said in Boston. "There won't be enough outstanding votes for us to be able to win Ohio, and therefore we cannot win this election." Bush begins his second term with the daunting challenges of a worsening insurgency in Iraq -- the aftermath of his decision to invade the country in 2003 -- and soaring federal budget deficits. Republicans also celebrated expanded majorities in the House of Representatives and the Senate in results likely to build the president's mandate and ease Bush's conservative agenda in Congress. Bush captured a majority of the popular vote, unlike the disputed 2000 election against Democrat Al Gore. With 99 percent of precincts reporting, Bush had 51 percent of votes against Kerry's 48 percent. Kerry called Bush after meeting with running mate John Edwards and Sen. Edward Kennedy, his colleague from Massachusetts in the U.S. Senate. "Sen. Kerry waged a spirited campaign and he and his supporters can be proud of their efforts," Bush said. "DESPERATE NEED FOR UNITY" Kerry said he congratulated Bush and they discussed the country's divisions and "the desperate need for unity, for finding the common ground, coming together. Today I hope that we can begin the healing." The dispute over uncounted ballots in Ohio had thrown the presidential result into uncertainty, as Kerry vowed he would not concede until all the outstanding provisional and absentee ballots had been counted while Bush claimed victory. White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card made a predawn appearance before Bush supporters to say Bush had a "statistically insurmountable" lead in Ohio and had won a majority of the popular vote. Ohio's Republican Secretary of State Ken Blackwell had estimated as many as 175,000 provisional ballots could be cast, and counties reported as of Wednesday morning that 135,149 had been issued. Republicans will hold at least 54 of the 100 Senate seats, three more than they now have, and widen their slim majority of the 435-member House in the new 109th Congress, set to convene on Jan. 3. That will make it easier for Bush to push his conservative agenda through Congress, potentially making his tax cuts permanent and appointing more federal judges including possibly some U.S. Supreme Court justices. "With a bigger majority, we can do even more exciting things," said House Majority leader Tom DeLay, a Republican from Texas. Stocks soared on news of the win from Bush, with shares of major U.S. drug and defense companies rising on the expectation those industries would do well under Bush. Allies like Russian President Vladimir Putin and Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi saw Bush's victory as bolstering the U.S.-declared "war on terror." But some disenchanted Europeans urged Bush to heal transatlantic rifts. British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Bush's biggest ally in the war in Iraq, said in London the re-election of Bush came at a critical time when the world must unite to fight terrorism and Europe must rebuild its relationship with Bush. "We must be relentless in our war against terrorism," Blair said. "We should work with President Bush on this agenda." Long voter lines were reported across the United States on Tuesday and few major voting glitches were recorded in the final act of the long campaign. With 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House, Bush had captured 29 states with 274 electoral votes. Kerry won 19 states and the District of Columbia and 252 votes. Bush held a lead of 3.5 million votes over Kerry nationwide with 99 percent of the precincts reporting. If you know history then you know history has been made !!!!!!

Most appreciated my younge lad. We must continue this classy discusion over some Hor d'oerves and Belinis. Funny how you have yet to confront the real classy comments originally posted by some of your friends in the beginning of this thread. I can almost bet that you where waiting for me to write something that would give you the opportunity to bite back. Pity !!!!! Sell your pity story to someone else and have fun arguing with yourself !!!!! Ta Ta

Suck It Up And Have Fun At You Your Pity Party

Want to laugh ;D Tune Inn http://www.newsradio610.com/streaming.html Nov 3, 11:28 AM (ET) By CALVIN WOODWARD and RON FOURNIER (AP) President George W. Bush is shown Oct. 13, 2004, in Phoenix. (AP Photo/Paul Connors) Full Image WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush won a second term from a divided and anxious nation, his promise of steady, strong wartime leadership trumping John Kerry's fresh-start approach to Iraq and joblessness. After a long, tense night of vote counting, the Democrat called Bush Wednesday to concede Ohio and the presidency, The Associated Press learned. Kerry ended his quest, concluding one of the most expensive and bitterly contested races on record, with a call to the president shortly after 11 a.m. EST, according to two officials familiar with the conversation. The victory gave Bush four more years to pursue the war on terror and a conservative, tax-cutting agenda - and probably the opportunity to name one or more justices to an aging Supreme Court. He also will preside over expanded Republican majorities in Congress. "Congratulations, Mr. President," Kerry said in the conversation described by sources as lasting less than five minutes. One of the sources was Republican, the other a Democrat. The Democratic source said Bush called Kerry a worthy, tough and honorable opponent. Kerry told Bush the country was too divided, the source said, and Bush agreed. "We really have to do something about it," Kerry said according to the Democratic official. Kerry placed his call after weighing unattractive options overnight. With Bush holding fast to a six-figure lead in make-or-break Ohio, Kerry could give up or trigger a struggle that would have stirred memories of the bitter recount in Florida that propelled Bush to the White House in 2000.

For those of you that voted for W . . . and the hate continues

Ohio and Florida ?????? It's over !!!!! Bush 2004 (we shall see what election challenges arise tomorrow)

You rock Amy

Just look it up bro. I'm out

Dude, The President does not have the power to do shit on his own. You have to know this. You're an American. Congress must approve any idea our President throws in front of them. Congress is the one who controls our money. NOT THE PRESIDENT. That is the way the American Government works. The Prez does have the power to veto certain bills that Congress tries to pass but to say that our Prez took us to war and it's his fault is ignorant. Congress approved the war and your boy Kerry was one of the ones who voted for it. The records are public. Look them up.

Lets try this again. Here is one person who did. reconize the name ? "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 "i doubt both republicans and democrats would have made the same statements they did then." I'm glad someone acknowledged this. Which is why I stated that how this WMD intel failure becomes a Bush failure is amusing.

I agree, so why do you think they would back stab us and the WORLD and hide information regarding the Oil For Food Scandal ?????? (I'm sure you know the other Countries that were involved)

You're wrong !!!!! lol. u'r pathetic. READ A BOOK and stay away from the DNC talking points. Not only did the Countires I mentioned feel that Saddam had them but so did allot of Demz. Even your boy Kerry voted for the war but yet you do not hate him. This info has been available to the public for a while so either you are in deniel or your hate for Bush is so grand that it has blinded you (or it could be the drugs). Say hello to your democratic friends ! What Did The Democrats Say About Iraq's WMD "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 | Source "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source "We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction." - Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 | Source "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton. - (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 | Source "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 | Source "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them." - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 | Source "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 | Source

Me personally? I don't know !!!!! The WMD issue might sound good when you spin it, but truth be told, THE WORLD, THE U.N., Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Australia, Russia, etc.. ALL WARNED OF THIS WMD threat Iraq posed So, how this WMD intel failure becomes a Bush failure is amusing. Only rabid Bush haters find comfort in that wicked spin which most clear thinking adults know is just poppycock.

Was 12 years not enough defiance for you ???? LOL That would be considered a war !!!! our troops on their land ????? Think about it ??? It was tough enough to get the UN there without complications and excuses. What makes you think they would have accepted our troops, The FBI, The CIA ect ect ????

Good point !!!! So do we call it even ???

Amen !!!!!

France owes us their lives. They would be speaking German right now if it wasn't for us. Not a bad idea. <-------

The coolest Mod on this board brings humor to the madness. Much needed !!!!!! You

Ohio Papers Determined to Cover Polling Places, Despite Sec. of State's Ban By Joe Strupp Published: November 02, 2004 11:25 AM EDT NEW YORK Despite a directive from the Ohio secretary of state barring reporters and photographers from polling places, some newspaper editors are urging staffers today to ignore the order and seek access to voting sites until they are ordered out. "We are going to proceed on the assumption we will get in and will until we get thrown out," said Doug Clifton, editor of The Plain Dealer in Cleveland, who estimates that up to 50 of his newsroom staffers would be visiting polling places Tuesday in the hotly contested state. "They were getting in this morning [Tuesday], but not everywhere." In addition, at least one paper -- The Columbus Dispatch -- has registered newsroom employees as election challengers so they gain access to polling places. "We filed to be challengers because election officials said they would strictly enforce laws regulating who can be in polling places -- voters, poll workers and challengers only," Dispatch Editor Ben Marrison wrote in a column. "Dispatch staffers are registered as challengers for every precinct in Franklin and Delaware counties." Marrison could not be reached for comment Tuesday morning. The Dispatch opted for the challenger approach after Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell issued a directive on Oct. 20 to local election officials reminding them that state law prohibits anyone from entering polling places unless they are voting, monitoring the area as a challenger, or working as a voting official or witness. The Akron Beacon Journal filed suit against Blackwell's directive, but that challenge was denied by U.S. District Judge Paul Matia on Monday. Newspaper attorneys were still discussing further appeals, but none had been filed as of Tuesday morning. "The issue is the voter's right to privacy in the voting place," said Betty Hull, director of state advocacy for the secretary of state, who defended his actions. "He intends to fulfill his obligation to enforce the law." Two other directives by Blackwell to bar exit pollers and registered challengers from polling places were blocked in separate court rulings within the last two days. Those court orders allowed challengers to be in the polling places and exit pollers to be within the 100-foot perimeter set by Blackwell but not inside the polling places themselves. Carlo LoParo, Blackwell's press secretary, said the Dispatch registered staffers as challengers on behalf of a committee opposing a ballot initiative for a state constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. Despite the fact that the newspaper openly admitted the challengers would be there to act as journalists, he said the effort was considered legal. "If the committee is comfortable having individuals from the Dispatch representing them, that is within the law," LoParo said. Some editors are instructing reporters and photographers to ignore the secretary of state's directive and get into the polling places if possible. Mike Burbach, managing editor of the Beacon Journal, offered a plan similar to the Plain Dealer's. "We are going to try to get in, and, if they let us, we will," he said. "[Our reporters] have gotten into a couple of places so far, and we will do what we always have, show up and record the news." But both Burbach and Doug Clifton emphasized that no reporters or photographers would disobey officials who ordered them to leave. "We will not defy the law," Burbach stressed. "But we will do what we have to within the law."

Long Live Hate Hop (hip hop) and Long Live The Hate Bush Fever

147 billion in a 10 trillion dollar/year economy is not the crazy amount you try to imply it is. Maybe this will be a great time to pull out from under the rug all the depts that MANY counties owe us and start collecting. Won't happen though !

He/She can't I just asked a coworker of mine what is it that Kerry stands for that he to stands for. I am still hearing the crickets rub their wings. He is probably searching the web now.

Ewwwwwwwww Mursa your wrong. (again). I have always agreed with you that this war will not be a short war but that still does not scare me away from winning. Strap on a pair !!!!!!! Scary stuff is immigrants coming to this Country to be provided with what their Country could not provide them and seeing them trying to take advantage of the loopholes in our constitution. (don't get me wrong. My parents were immigrants but they appreciate what they US has given them and their sons.) That's scary to me. Scary to me is voting for someone who has yet to grasp what terrorism is. Scary to me is knowing that our enemies are scared of Bush and his offensive strategy and yet still knowing that their will be some who vote for the individual who our enemies are hoping for to win these elections.