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Whose the instigators of terror. The "cycle" in practice works like this: Palestinian terrorists conduct random, murderous attacks targeting Israeli civilians. Palestinian terrorists attack Israeli woman and children in buses, shopping malls, cafe's, restaurants, disco's, sbarro's pizzeria's, Bar Mitzvah's, shoe stores and schools. The Israeli military pursues strikes against military or terrorist targets in response, attempting to disable terrorist networks that Arafat won't stop himself, since he is no different from them. In the one case, Palestinian terrorists set out to murder as many Israeli civilians as possible. Israel responds to these terrorists acts, by targeting Palestinian terrorists who sponsor these murderous acts against Israeli civilians. The Palestinians then hide these terrorists in civilian areas, wanting Israel to fire back, so civilians are killed, so this looks good on TV. The attempt to draw a moral equivalence between the Palestinians' deliberate attempts to kill innocents and inspire terror and Israel's military responses to these attacks is not far different from describing the U.S. airstrikes on Afghanistan as "perpetuating the cycle of violence between al Qaeda and the United States." There is no equivalence between terrorist attacks designed to maximize the deaths of innocents and military strikes designed to limit the ability of terrorists to carry out future strikes. Terrorism is the DELIBERATE targeting of innocent civilians and noncombatants for political or religious purposes. Pretty simple! The Palestinians are terrorists because they deliberately target innocent Israeli men, women and children going about their daily lifes The Israelis do not deliberately target Palestinian civilians/non combatants. Israelis Defence Forces only target Palestinian terrorists who are engaged in the execution and commissioning of terrorist acts. The IDF goes to amazing lengths to reduce Palestinian "collateral damage" but this is often hampered by the terrorists usage of civilian human shields. The poverty of such comparisons was made painfully clear last week by a statement from Ahmed Abdel Rahman, secretary of the Palestinian cabinet, who blamed a recent Israeli raid on a Palestinian bomb factory in Nablus for the current spate of attacks. If one side is making the bombs ( destined to be strapped to suicidal terrorists to massacre Israeli civilians) and the other side conducting raids to prevent their manufacture, there is little room to question who is in the right. Is it any wonder, why Palestinians find moral equivalence, between Palestinian terrorists who blow up Sbarros pizzeria's and discos filled with teenagers and Israeli commandos, who preemptively kill terrorist ringleaders, before they send their suicide bombers into Israel on a mission to kill Jewish civilians.

bassboy you need to learn history. The Palestinians started all the terrorism and atrocities. Here are 3 sites that go into detail what happened during the Mandate http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/myths/mftoc.html www.palestinefacts.org www.factsofisrael.com On March 1 1944, the Palestinian leader, Hajj Amin Al Husseini who was in Cahoots with Hitler. Husseini said in a broadcast from Berlin: "Arabs Rise as one and fight for your sacred rights. Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history, and religion. This saves your honor." After the 5 Arab Armies attacked Israel in 48, the Arab League Secretary General, Azzam Pasha said, "This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the massacres of the Crusades". Hajj Amin Al Husseini stated, "I declare a holy war, my Moslem brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all!" The armies of lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt and Iraq invaded the tiny new country with the declared intent of destroying it. Azzam Pasha regarding the 1 million Jews in the Arab countries. Assam in May 1948 said "There are over one million Jews in the Arab Lands. Their lives will be forfeit as well when we conquer the Jews. The agenda and political faith of Saddam Hussein, Yasir Arafat, bin Laden, Hamas, and the rest of the international Islamic terrorists can be traced back to World War II and two key figures, Adolf Hitler and the Palestinian leader, Amin al-Husseini, known as the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. Husseini is Arafat's uncle. Much has been written about the Mufti, all well documented, including chapters by such prominent authors as Connor Cruise O´Brien, former Irish Ambassador to the U.N. Mountains of documented evidence is out there and available to anyone who cares to look. The Nuremberg and Eichmann trials revealed that Nazi official Adolf Eichmann met with the British-appointed Mufti in Palestine in 1937. Following this meeting, the Mufti would become essentially an agent of Nazi Germany charged with the funding and organizing of pro-Nazi organizations in Egypt, Syria, Palestine and Iraq. In 1941, along with Rashid Ali and Hajj Amin Al Husseini, Yassser Arafat's uncle, Mufti instigated a pro-Nazi coup in Iraq with Nazi-supplied weapons and aircraft. After Rashid Ali and Husseini overthrew the Iraqi goverment in 1941. They installed a Nazi puppet goverment. The first thing Rashid Ali and Husseini did, was order a pogram of Jews, where 187 Jews were massacred. This is exactly what would have happened, if the Arabs would have won the 48 war. This is what Israel's army prevented in 48. On June 1st and June 2nd of 1941, hundreds of Iraqi Arabs brutally attacked Iraqi Jews in the towns of Al Rusafa and Abu Sifyan. Jews were killed randomly, women and children were raped in front of their relatives, babies crushed, houses set on fire, looting was everywhere. On June 2,1941: Policemen, soldiers and slum dwellers from Al Karkh entered the scene, and participated in the killing and the looting everywhere. Reports vary official Iraqi reports mention 187 killed, 2 months later, the British overthrew the Nazi backed Iraqi goverment and the Mufti fled to Berlin, where he would hold his first of several meetings with Adolf Hitler. At this meeting, the Mufti was reported to have dissuaded Hitler from considering the deportation of the Jews to Palestine. Instead, the Mufti advocated and even possibly suggested what came to be known as the Final Solution against the Jews. In 1942, the Mufti would intervene and stop the Nazis from exchanging 10,000 Jewish children for Nazi POW´s. The Mufti´s activities in Nazi Germany and occupied Europe would set the stage for today´s Islamic terrorism. On April 25th, 1941, the Nazis sent the Mufti to Nazi-occupied Bosnia, where he assumed the title "Protector of Islam." On February 10, 1943, Hitler ordered the creation of the Nazi SS Division Hanzar and approximately 100,000 Bosnian Muslims volunteered. The Mufti, serving as chief administrator, referred to these Nazi-Muslim brigades as "the cream of Islam." The Hanzars, deriving their name from the type of dagger carried by Ottoman officers, played an active role in the extermination of Christians and Jews in the Balkans. The Mufti attempted to implement the Nazi "Pejani Plan" which called for the extermination of the Christian Serbs and which the Nazis eventually abandoned. All in all, the Bosnian Muslim Hanzars assisted in the extermination of approximately 200,000 Christian Serbs, 40,000 Gypsies and 22,000 Jews. Dieter Visllzni, who was Eichmann's assistant, said at the Nuremberg Trials, Hajj Amin Al Husseini the Palestinian leader of WW2, had a part in the decision to liquidate the Jews of Europe." The Mufti had repeatedly suggested to Hitler, Himmler and Eichman, that the extermination of European Jewry was the best way to help the Arabs. Vislizni said, according to the 5 May 1946 written deposition of engineer André Steiner from Bratislava, submitted to the Nuremberg Tribunal after having been read and confirmed by Vislizni himself: "The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and advisor of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan. He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. Vislizni's July 26 1946 Nuremberg testimony says, accompanied by Eichmann, Husseini had visited the gas chambers of Auschwitz." Vislizni's said, Husseini made very clear, all the Jews must be exterminated. On March 1 1944, Husseini said in a broadcast from Berlin: "Arabs Rise as one and fight for your sacred rights. Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history, and religion. This saves your honor. Husseini also set up a Bosnian SS Army in Yugoslavia, whose goal was to kill as many Serbs and Jews as Possible. His Muslim SS Legions participated in massacring tens of thousands of Serbs, Jews and Gypsies.

Bassboy I must laugh at your posts- All you say is how bad Israel is, when all Israel is doing is defending herself. When one looks at the many Arab atrocities that have been committed in recent history- you realize one thing. The Arab world is racist, sexist, poverty stricken, diseased, inbred, filled with religious hatred, ignorant, and celebrates mass murder of woman and children. The Arabs have killed their own with guns, hangings, be-headings, chemical and biological weapons, electrified them, and tortured fellow Arabs to death. Arabs even kill there own woman if there raped or not virgins before they get married. ( Honor Killings ) Do you people ever take responsiblity. I guess its far easier for the Arabs to blame everyone else for there failures.

Bassboy It was Israel who bombed Iraq's nuclear facility in 1981. If they didn't bomb it..... Iraq would have had 9 nukes by the Gulf War. Bassboy this is not the first time you've written your Arab propaganda on here. Here's a great post I saw on Aol Mideast message board. At the end of World War II, with the revelation of the Nazis death camps, American and European politicians' excuse for inaction was "They didn't know." The excuse of most Germans was, "They didn't know." Well, this time the world knows that the Arabs are deliberately murdering Israeli women, children and non-combatants. This is not "collateral" attacks. This is the deliberate targeting of civilians. And unlike the Germans, the Arabs know, and cheer and dance in the streets and hand out candy. The Nazis tried to hide their acts; they had guilty consciences. The Arabs celebrate murder. In a poll last week, 75 percent of Palestinians support homicide bombings against Israeli civilians. The Palestinians think they can destroy Israel, via an indiscriminate campaign of mass murder against innocent Israeli civilians. Here is the difference between Israel and the Palestinians. Israelis don't call for murdering children and women, the Arabs do. Israelis don't strap bombs to themselves, to murder women and defenseless civilians. The Arabs do. Israel dont tell its people, that if you kill Arabs, you will go to heaven and be with 72 virgins. The Arabs do. Only the Pal Arabs consider a violent uprising that solely involves killing children in a mall, bus or disco and then celebrate afterwards. The way Arabs think. The way to get honor and respect, is when you blow yourself up along with some innocent Jewish mothers and babies, your picture will be plastered on posters throughout your hometown. Your family will acquire a revered place in society and will also receive $25,000 in American currency from Saddam Hussein. You meanwhile, will get to fulfill all of your wildest and repressed sexual fantasies with 72 virgins in heaven. Your concern should be, why dont the Palestinians care there own children. Seeing the reaction of the Palestinian families after their son/daughter, becomes a suicide bomber and murders Israeli civilians. I wonder, when these children are born, or if the parents are looking into some maternity ward in a West Bank hospital, what are they thinking. Oh look at all the beautiful little bombs!" "Is that one yours? What a cute little bomb, she has your eyes," "I'll bet you'll be able to wrap a lot of explosives around him when he's older" The shocking pic of the 2 month old Palestinian baby dressed as a suicide bomber, has shown the sadism the Arabs teach there children. Arafat has raised an entire generation to believe that the highest aspiration in life is to kill Jews. The Palestinians are engaged in an unremitting campaign of targetted murder of women and children. When the Palestinians massacre Israeli school children on buses, and babies in baby carriages, they celebrate. They have raised an entire generation to believe that the the highest cultural and religious value is the massacre of Jews. Through the Arabs hate, an entire generation has lost the capacity for humanity. Name the last time Israelis intentionally killed Palestinian children, and then rejoiced over or justified it in the name of religion? The facts are that two years ago Israel offered the Palestinians a sovereign state in the West Bank and Gaza, with Jerusalem as its capital. Barak offered the Palestinians a state, something no Arab country ever did. Barak did this, even though the Palestinians never controlled this land. The response has been the continued murder of Israeli civilians. As a Palestinian organization confirmed in a poll reported last week by the AP, a majority of Palestians view the objective of their fight not to control the West Bank and Gaza, but destruction of Israel. This is what the Palestinians want. Arafat's speech in Sweden in 1996. Arafat’s speech in front of 40 Arab diplomats in the Grand Hotel in Stockholm, Sweden, on January 30, 1996. Was called "The Impending Collapse of Israel". "We will take over everything including all of Jerusalem," he declared repeatedly. Arafat's plan has two main components aimed to cause the Jews to abandon Israel. "Within five years we will have six to seven million Arabs living on the West Bank and in Jerusalem. Arafat explained that this will be the beginning of a pressure campaign resulting within a few years in Israel's ultimate destruction. "You understand that we plan to eliminate the State of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian State. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion; Jews will not want to live among us Arabs!" On the same day in 1993 on which Yasser Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn, he spoke the following words on Jordan TV: "Since we cannot defeat Israel in war we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel." Syrian Defence Minister Mustafa Tlass, In May 2001 stated on Lebanon television, that if every Arab kills one Jew, there will be no Jews left at all Hamas terrorist chief Sheikh Ahmed Yassin explains that Palestinian terrorism will in the end destroy Israel and that the Islamic state of Palestine will be built on the ruins of Israel in 2027. Who wants genocide, I'll let you judge. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-120601holy.story Sheikh Muhammed Siyam, a Hamas military leader said this. "I've been told to restrict or restrain what I say. I hope no one is recording me or taking any pictures, as none are allowed, because I'm going to speak the truth to you," Siyam reportedly said at the conference. "It's simple. Finish off the Israelis. Kill them all! Exterminate them! No peace ever! Do not bother to talk politics." The late Faisal Husseini, Arafat's Jerusalem representative, a man who was cultured, sophisticated and considered the most moderate of all the Palestinians, shortly before his death on May 31, 2001, expressed his true feelings in an interview with the popular Egyptian newspaper el Arav. Husseini said: "We must distinguish the strategies and long-term goals from the political-phased goals which we are compelled to accept due to international pressures." But the "ultimate goal is the liberation of all of historical Palestine." Explicitly he said: "Oslo has to be viewed as a Trojan Horse." He even added and clarified that it is the obligation of all the Palestinian forces and factions to see the Oslo Accords as "temporary" steps. Husseini went on to say, Israel wont exist in 20 years. Sari Nusseibeh is another supposed Palestinian moderate. In an interview on Al-Jazeera television on July 14, translated by Memri. Nusseibeh praised everyone involved in jihad against Israel. Explaining that he did not want to pass moral judgment on the murderers when he signed a petition a month earlier calling for an end to suicide bombers, Nusseibeh said that terrorism presents no moral dilemma, it is only a question of whether or not "political benefit" accrues from killing Israeli civilians. http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=377 French reporters came out with a video called The "Israel and the War of Images" is a French-produced video documentary that demonstrates, through exclusive footage of Palestinian leaders themselves -- including Yasser Arafat -- that their goal remains the eradication of the Jewish state. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28777 TROUBLE IN THE HOLY LAND Palestinians consider Oslo 'Trojan horse' Leaders consistently speak of process as means to destroy Israel August 29, 2002. WorldNetDaily.com Claims by a top Israeli official that the Palestinian Authority plans to destroy Israel in stages through the Oslo Accords are supported by numerous statements in Arabic by Palestinian leaders, according to a regional press monitor. Israeli Defense Forces Chief of Staff Moshe Ya'alon's assessment in an interview published this week in the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz has caused a political stir. But Palestinian leaders such as Faisal Husseini, PA representative for Jerusalem affairs, have explicitly stated that the Oslo process, which began in 1993, is a Trojan horse designed to wipe Israel off the map. "Had the U.S. and Israel realized, before Oslo, that all that was left of the Palestinian National movement and the Pan-Arab movement was a wooden horse called Arafat or the PLO, they would never have opened their fortified gates and let it inside their walls," Husseini said in an interview with the Egyptian publication Al-Arabi', June 24, 2001. Husseini said that the Intifada "could have been much better, broader, and more significant had we made it clearer to ourselves that the Oslo agreement, or any other agreement, is just a temporary procedure, or just a step towards something bigger. . . ." "We distinguish the strategic, long-term goals from the political-phased goals, which we are compelled to temporarily accept due to international pressure," Husseini said. "[Palestine], according to the higher strategy, [is] 'from the river to the sea,'" he said referring to a common description of Israel. 'Palestine in its entirety is an Arab land, the land of the Arab nation." In the Ha'aretz interview, Ya'alon was asked to clarify whether he believed the goal of Arafat is to liquidate Israel by stages. "Of course," the Israel defense chief responded. "Not to reach an agreement and not to arrive at the end of their claims, in order to preserve the conflict and to let time run its course according to the phased theory." United worldview Palestinian Media Watch says its research demonstrates a clear and united worldview within the Palestinian leadership that defines Israel as a colony that stole the land of "Palestine" and thus has no right to exist. In speeches, sermons, educational programs and school textbooks published by the PA, the Oslo process is called a "stage," a temporary agreement that is necessary "because of the current balance of power" in which Israel has a huge military advantage. The "permanent status agreement" with Israel is viewed as "Hudna," an Islamic term meaning cease-fire. In an interview on Palestinian television, Sept. 1, 2000, Israeli Arab Knesset Member Abd-Al Malek Dahamshe responded to a telephone call from a viewer who said: "Our problem with Israel is not a border problem, but one of existence." Dahamshe responded: "We exaggerate when we say 'peace' . . . what we are [really] speaking about is 'Hudna.'" In an interview with the official PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, April 14, 2000, Abdullah Al-Hourani, chairman of the Palestinian National Council Political Committee, responded to the question, "How do you read the future of the peace process?" Al-Hourani said: "Whether they return to negotiations or not, and whether they fulfill the agreements or not, the political plan is a temporary agreement, and the conflict remains eternal, will not be locked, and the agreements being talked about are regarding the current balance of power. As to the struggle, it will continue. It may pause at times, but in the final analysis, Palestine is ours from the [Mediterranean] Sea to the [Jordan] River." Oslo is just the first step in the destruction of Israel, Abd El Aziz Shahian, Palestinian Authority Minister of Supplies, said in an interview May 20, 2000, with Al Ayyam, an Arabic daily in the Palestinian territories. "The Palestinian people accepted the Oslo agreements as a first step and not as a permanent settlement, based on the premise that the war and struggle in the land is more efficient than a struggle from a distant land," he said, referring to the Palestinian Liberation Organization's base in Tunisia prior to the Oslo process. The Palestinian minister said his "people will continue the revolution until they achieve the goals of the '65 revolution," referring to the founding of the PLO and publication of the Palestinian charter that calls for the destruction of Israel through an armed struggle. Salim Alo'adia Abu Salam, supervisor of political affairs for the PA, told Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Jan. 20, 2000, that "when we picked up the gun in '65 and the modern Palestinian revolution began, it had a goal. This goal has not changed and it is the liberation of Palestine." Palestinian state not end of the road Yasser Arafat's deputy, Othman Abu Arbiah, has stated that the establishment of a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital is a means toward eliminating Israel. "At this stage we'll prevail in our struggle [toward] the goals of the stages [plan]," he said in an interview with Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Nov. 25, 1999. "The goal of this stage is the establishment of the independent Palestinian state, with its capital in Jerusalem. When we achieve this, it will be a positive [step] and it will advance us to the next stage via other ways and means." Abu Arbiah said "every Palestinian must know clearly and unequivocally that the independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital is not the end of the road. The [rise of] the Palestinian state is a stage after which there will be another stage and that is the democratic state in all of Palestine [in place of Israel]." Abu Arbiah is Arafat's aide for political guidance and national affairs and the director-general for national affairs, a senior position in the Palestinian national educational structure. Imad Alfalugi, the PA minister of communication, told Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Nov. 18, 1999, "Our people have hope for the future, that the occupation state [israel] ceases to exist, and that it makes no difference [how great] its power and arrogance. . . . " Claim rooted in Islam The preacher of the Al-Aqsa Mosque, Sheikh Yousuf Abu Sneina, declared, in a distinct religious context, the belief that all of Israel is "Palestine" forever. "The Islamic land of Palestine is one and can not be divided. There is no difference between Haifa and Nablus, between Lod and Ramallah, between Jerusalem and Nazareth, between Gaza and Ashkelon," he said on Palestinian television, Sept. 8, 2000, referring to cities in Israel and PA territory. "The land of Palestine is Waqf land that belongs to Muslims throughout the world and no one has the right to act freely or the right to make concessions or to abandon her. Whoever does this betrays a [trust] and is nothing more than a loathsome criminal whose abode is in Hell!" Sheikh Ikrima Sabri, PA-appointed mufti of Jerusalem and Palestine, said in a Jan. 11, 2001, television broadcast that emphasis on gaining Jerusalem should not be viewed as conceding other parts of Israel. "We are discussing the current problems and when we speak about Jerusalem it doesn't mean that we have forgotten about Hebron or about Jaffa or about Acre," the sheikh said. "We are speaking about the current problems that have priority at a certain time. It doesn't mean that we have given up. . . . We have announced a number of times that from a religious point of view Palestine from the sea to the river is Islamic." All agreements are temporary, said Dr. Ahmed Yousuf Abu Halbiah, a member of Palestinian Sharianic (Islamic law) Rulings Council and rector of advanced studies at the Islamic University, evoking Islam's founder in a July 28, 2000, message on Palestinian television. "We the nation of Palestine, our fate from Allah is to be the vanguard in the war against the Jews until the resurrection of the dead, as the Prophet Muhammad said: The resurrection of the dead will not come until you do battle with the Jews and kill them. We the Palestinians, are the vanguard in this issue, in this battle, whether we want to or whether we refuse. All the agreements being made are temporary." Dr. Muhammad Ibrahim Madi, a PA religious leader, said on Palestinian television, April 12, 2002: "We are positive that Allah will help us triumph. Our belief is firm that one day we will enter Jerusalem as conquerors, enter Jaffa as conquerors, Ramle and Lod. and all of Palestine, as conquerors. "If [Allah] asks [Arab leaders], on Judgment Day: 'The majority of Palestine was lost in '48, and what did you do? And the remainder was lost in '67, and now it is being vanquished again.' How shall we respond to our Lord?" Madi said "Palestine shall be the burial grounds of the invaders just as it was for the Tartars, and the Crusaders and for modern colonialism. The Tradition relates to us that Allah's cherished one [Muhammad] said: 'The Jews will battle against you but you shall emerge masters over them.'" Madi said on Palestinian television, Aug. 3, 2001: "We will blow them up in Hadera, we will blow them up in Tel-Aviv and in Netanya. . . . We will fight against them and rule over them until the Jew will hide behind the trees and stones and the tree and stone will say: 'Muslim! Servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him.' We will enter Jerusalem as conquerors, and Jaffa as conquerors, and Haifa as conquerors and Ashkelon as conquerors. . . ."

latinaz you look fantastic for 35

OH SHIT! THATS GREAT

You think Marvisi will try to sell Exit? Thats such a great venue but needs better management.

Its up to 75 killed. I think its pretty safe to say... Pyro technics will be barred from indoor clubs.

Donna Dixon... Dan Aykroyd's wife.

Wasn't there a If you grew up in the 80s thread.... a couple of months ago. Alot of funny posts on there.

So what happened yesterday with Exit and SF. Did they go to court or was it cancelled because of the snow.

I would be amazed if more then 100 people showed. The snowstorm was so bad and plus... there were no plowers were I live.

I don’t see Exit opening this weekend. The trial is tommorow. Unless the judge drops all charges tommorow. Suppose the judge does drop the charges. Who would be the DJ for Exit on Friday.

I hope I win.

I thought it was at Exit. They moved it to Cheetah. Why didn't he wait for the Thursday court hearing. There's still a chance Exit might be open this Weekend.

chris817... good point. You see how Junior is charging up to 75 to 100 dollars at the door. Thats insane.

How does he know Exit will be open. The court date is Thursday. Does he have inside information. They said the same thing about Twilo. 3 days after it closed.... they said it would re open. That was 3 years ago. I'm still waiting for it to re open.

rudeboyyouth Float with Richie Rydell and Sean Ink is the best afterhours place on Saturday now. Float 240 W. 52nd St., btwn 8th Ave. & Broadway (212) 581-0055 Here's some threads about it. http://bbs.clubplanet.com/showthread.php?threadid=144250 http://bbs.clubplanet.com/showthread.php?threadid=144253

Very nice photos. The Saci dancer with the orange hair is she Russian.

Sound Factory to reopen next week. http://www.soundfactorynyc.com/ml.html

Why is KTU promoting this big event at Exit in a couple of weeks. The place is closed.

cwa people are referring to the Friday Exit crowd, not the Saturday one.

grock1841 I'v read that Sound Factory will be open next Saturday. Exit on the other hand might be closed for a long time.

Does anyone know how long Exit and Sound Factory will be closed for?