I have to agree with you on this one, Abyss is not the same as it used to be, ever since 3:00AM turned 2:00AM, that is when I noticed things slowly went down hill, Saturday's turned to 18 and over from being 21 and over as well as Friday's, and once that happened, that is when I stopped going. Hunka-Bunka remained strong and didn't have to turn to letting 18-20 yr olds in except for maybe ladies on Friday nights. BUT, I'm looking forward to the freestyle event in April, and while I think this event should be for the 21 and over crowd, I know that is not going to happen, I have also noticed the dress code doesn't seem to be enforced either.