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They're Gonna Close Audiogalaxy For Good

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Originally posted by clubgodraver

sign an online petition to keep it alive

http://www.petitiononline.com/AG4EVA/petition.html

Online petition can't hurt, but it won't help legally. They're going to be making the same arguments they made in the Napster case. And they do have a STRONG case.

Even if AG is shut down, which will likely be the case, there will always be something to take its place. They can't stop the monster of music on the net. People will migrate to Gnutella-type services which are decentralized (unlike AG and Napster) and CAN'T be shut down.

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kazza

Foreign owned and operated, and uncensorable and unblockable... 82 million users..... so calm the fudge down people music will always be free.....

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Originally posted by saleen351

kazza

They're going down too. A Dutch court did rule that they were not responsible for the copyright infringement of its members, but they are still getting hit with lawsuits lef and right. They don't even have the money to fight their upcoming suit against the RIAA.

They are foreign, but are subject to international copyright laws and the Dutch court ruling is not the final word. But yes, there will always be an alternative.

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Originally posted by £ddie

They're going down too. A Dutch court did rule that they were not responsible for the copyright infringement of its members, but they are still getting hit with lawsuits lef and right. They don't even have the money to fight their upcoming suit against the RIAA.

They are foreign, but are subject to international copyright laws and the Dutch court ruling is not the final word. But yes, there will always be an alternative.

ok, lets say that kazza gets sued out the ying yang and everyone looses all their money, all their rights and kazaa is closed for good. my point is WHO CARES? it doesn't matter, kazza doesn't need any servers to work... all a lawsuit would do is to have no adverstisments on the service. its p2p.... so they can't stop it! it will continue forever..... no matter what....

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Unless their servers are in Libya, I'm pretty sure they're also subject to copyright infringement laws.....

I guess I'll have to go back to aol file sharing groups.....aaah, the old fashioned way.....

And it's not that hard to block p2p, fyi....

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Originally posted by saleen351

ok, lets say that kazza gets sued out the ying yang and everyone looses all their money, all their rights and kazaa is closed for good. my point is WHO CARES? it doesn't matter, kazza doesn't need any servers to work... all a lawsuit would do is to have no adverstisments on the service. its p2p.... so they can't stop it! it will continue forever..... no matter what....

It can't continue forever if a court orders that the software be disabled. Kazaa has the ability to remotely disable previous versions of its software. It has done it in the past. The people at Sharman Networks, which owns Kazaa, would be stupid to disobey such an order, as they could face criminal prosecution if it came to that point.

There are a few clones that run on the same networkthat Kazaa does, the Fasttrack network, such as Grokster (who's also being sued), and I don't know if they have the ability to remotely disable their software. I'm sure other clones will pop up as well which cannot be disabled. As long as the Fasttrack backbone and Gnutella and its clones are around, music will be free.

BTW Saleen, is there any way to get around the 128 bitrate cap on Kazaa?

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Originally posted by brickhouse

Unless their servers are in Libya, I'm pretty sure they're also subject to copyright infringement laws.....

I guess I'll have to go back to aol file sharing groups.....aaah, the old fashioned way.....

And it's not that hard to block p2p, fyi....

Ok, here is the deal, at first there were NO servers, but some linux guys figured out how to piggy back on the fast track network so they got pissed off, so to prevent this they now use a server just for a sercurity concern to prevent the free linux guys from using the system, but all they have to do is turn it off and BAM no one can stop it.... You can't block p2p, the only way is to modify the software which they can't since its on your computer so don't upgrade your shit people, or some how block the traffic between the super nodes, which I imagine could be done but not gonna happen.... there is 82 million users, its too big plus the linux guys and others will pop up one a day for months...... and their software will get around anything... its a losing battle that can't be won by the record company...

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Originally posted by £ddie

BTW Saleen, is there any way to get around the 128 bitrate cap on Kazaa?

use grokster. there's no bitrate limit on grokster and it uses the fassttrack network. blubster is also good. it's very easy to use, a lot like napster and cant be shut down and no bitrate limit. finally there's winmx which is a lot like the old morpheus, and uses opennap servers. all these programs will get better as more users will start to use them once ag is shut down.

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Just want to voice my opinion...i work at a major Record Label here in NY, however i completely disagree with their policy of fighting the internet. One service dies, another rises up. They should focus their energy on ways to embrace the internet and make money off it rather than spending valuable time, energy and money trying to beat it. Unfortunatly CDs are nearly unaffordable nowadays and usually more than 75% of the cd is crap anyway. Most of the execs i work with here are old fashioned and close minded....its a shame...hopefully one day i will be able to contribute my knowledge and ideas in an effective, helpful way here.

Fliz

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Originally posted by fliz77

Just want to voice my opinion...i work at a major Record Label here in NY, however i completely disagree with their policy of fighting the internet. One service dies, another rises up. They should focus their energy on ways to embrace the internet and make money off it rather than spending valuable time, energy and money trying to beat it. Unfortunatly CDs are nearly unaffordable nowadays and usually more than 75% of the cd is crap anyway. Most of the execs i work with here are old fashioned and close minded....its a shame...hopefully one day i will be able to contribute my knowledge and ideas in an effective, helpful way here.

Fliz

what label do u work for? and tell those fockers they can never stop it... they can try.... but will fail,,,, but I see a much greater and more dangerous battle brewing.... DVD ripping is in full effect. they will never be able to stop it... the code has been cracked for well over 2 years now. even though a court ordered the hackers that they can post the crack you know they will or have already put it up on public domains with public computers so no one can trace it..... DVD will be free, only a matter of a year..... or so.....

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Originally posted by fliz77

Just want to voice my opinion...i work at a major Record Label here in NY, however i completely disagree with their policy of fighting the internet. One service dies, another rises up. They should focus their energy on ways to embrace the internet and make money off it rather than spending valuable time, energy and money trying to beat it. Unfortunatly CDs are nearly unaffordable nowadays and usually more than 75% of the cd is crap anyway. Most of the execs i work with here are old fashioned and close minded....its a shame...hopefully one day i will be able to contribute my knowledge and ideas in an effective, helpful way here.

Fliz

Well I agree with you i used to work for a POWER HOUSE LABEL called TOMMY BOY ask those execs if they listened to a younger person in the industry...NOPE>....These old fuks are like all other corporate companies....They are stuck in the old MA BELL days....They think that brand marketing is all they need...well ill tell you NAughty by nature and Coolio couldnt keep tommy Boy open forever...LOL

wake up or give up.....

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Originally posted by mindfaqd

i have also heard about another site called direct connect for music dls. has anyone heard of this and if so, is it any good?

i have never checked it out for myself becuz i was happy w/ ag.

Direct Connect is very good. It's also decentralized. It's mostly used not for music though but for the downloading of Playstation 2/Dreamcast images, software, DVDs (yep, you can get Lord of the Rings there already) and you guessed it, porn.

The good thing about Direct Connect is that there are different "hubs". These hubs will have requirements for you to enter into the hub , like you have to have 10 gigs of shared files for example to be let in. This makes sure that plenty of files are available unlike Kazaa/Grokster which don't require you to share. It's so-so for music, but as more people use it, the number of music files will increase.

Direct Connect is sort of like a cross between IRC and napster without the central server.

http://www.neo-modus.com

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Originally posted by dancingyro

someone should set up a direct connect hub~like a CP hub...that would be hot... www.neo-modus.com

i'm learning how to do it myself...that way everyone can share there own music from CP...any takes?

:confused:

i dont get this.... does it involve any coding or anything? give us sum info :D

sounds like a great idea but is this the same way all the other programs work or is it different?

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Originally posted by sextacy911

i dont get this.... does it involve any coding or anything? give us sum info :D

sounds like a great idea but is this the same way all the other programs work or is it different?

screwd this one up....look below.......:D

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Originally posted by sextacy911

i dont get this.... does it involve any coding or anything? give us sum info :D

sounds like a great idea but is this the same way all the other programs work or is it different?

basically, theres a hub...with a ip addy you can login into...you need the prog of that site to log into...its like kazaa, but everyone who logs into the "cp hub" can dl off each other what they have (not just audio)...makes sense? rutgers had something like and its mad fast...:D

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Originally posted by dancingyro

basically, theres a hub...with a ip addy you can login into...you need the prog of that site to log into...its like kazaa, but everyone who logs into the "cp hub" can dl off each other what they have (not just audio)...makes sense? rutgers had something like and its mad fast...:D

Makes sense... does there have to be some sort of a server we log on? and also... can we get into trouble by doing this?

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I think this would be a hot idea...I had one at rutgers, and it was crazy fast. I'll look into settin up a CP hub, but I think you might need a dedicated server if lots of people are gonna be on it.

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