DETROIT Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Ok.... I know plenty of people who have been busted selling, but does anyone know if reverse busts happen at any clubs or raves? That is, an undercover/security offers to sell, and then a consumer is busted for attempting to buy. Just Curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknojunkee Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Ask if they are a Cop. Police must disclose that information to you...No Matter What!My fathers best freind is a Suffolk Police Under Cover...he usually works at the Vanderbilt during parties and other places such as Cyberia and Mirage (eventhough someplaces are in Nassau). He explained to me that if you ask if they are an officer they must tell you, if they fail to do so and it is brought up in court, charges can and will be dropped.He also taught me that if you have PBA Cards, Badges, etc...When you get pulled over, turn off your car, and put the keys on your dash board, so the officer can see them when he comes to your window, this shows courtesy, and lets the officer know you arent going to try and run from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shroomy Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 That is such a fucking myth that police must tell you if asked.I know the cops just love that it exists, wonder if they started it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shroomy Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 good article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyblaze2001 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Well, Shroomy you are right and wrong on this. I know for a fact that in New York a Police Offeicer must tell you if hes a cop if you ask him directly.... But lets say you are buying from some guy and he tells you hes not, then you get arrested and it goes to court, and you say that you asked him if he was a cop but he said no, so you say you should be let go. And the cop gets on the stand and says that never was he asked if he was a police officer (which there is no doubt he will do). Now who do you think the jury will believe, a cop, or you someone caught buying whatever drug it was thta you were buying.Cops in general and the court system is soo fucked up. Cops can really get away ALOT. I have had to deal with this bulshit firsthand many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeup Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Originally posted by clubbhoppintg Ask if they are a Cop. Police must disclose that information to you...No Matter What!My fathers best freind is a Suffolk Police Under Cover...he usually works at the Vanderbilt during parties and other places such as Cyberia and Mirage (eventhough someplaces are in Nassau). He explained to me that if you ask if they are an officer they must tell you, if they fail to do so and it is brought up in court, charges can and will be dropped.He also taught me that if you have PBA Cards, Badges, etc...When you get pulled over, turn off your car, and put the keys on your dash board, so the officer can see them when he comes to your window, this shows courtesy, and lets the officer know you arent going to try and run from him. wrong they dont have to tell u shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETROIT Posted January 3 Author Report Share Posted January 3 Thanks for all the replies.....but i was wondering if reverse busts do exist......i have never seen one, but do cops ever pose as dealers in clubs/raves? or only buyers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeup Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 Originally posted by fwilso01 Thanks for all the replies.....but i was wondering if reverse busts do exist......i have never seen one, but do cops ever pose as dealers in clubs/raves? or only buyers? yes it happend a few yrs ago at sf, they sold to people then later on in the night busted them on a fri night. also happened recently at centro fly where the bouncers beat the shit out of a "dealer" for selling who turned out to be an undercover and thats y they shut down the thurs night party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETROIT Posted January 4 Author Report Share Posted January 4 Thanks for the answer.....u know, now that u mention it, i do remember that shit going down at SF......but i never heard the Centro story till now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shroomy Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 It seems to me, very unlikely that a cop would pose as a dealer and sell real drugs.Just imagine the lawsuit if someone was injured from a drug they bought from a cop.But of course everything has happened at sometime or another.And Johnny and Club, I don't know for a fact that NY cops must disclose they are a cop if asked, but I sure wouldn't bet my freedom on it.Maybe it is an internal policy or something, but it sure is not the (federal) law.Now they cettainly do have dealers they cohearse as informants which really amounts to the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkissa Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 Originally posted by wakeup also happened recently at centro fly where the bouncers beat the shit out of a "dealer" for selling who turned out to be an undercover and thats y they shut down the thurs night party really? where did you hear that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeup Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 Originally posted by shroomy It seems to me, very unlikely that a cop would pose as a dealer and sell real drugs.Just imagine the lawsuit if someone was injured from a drug they bought from a cop.But of course everything has happened at sometime or another.And Johnny and Club, I don't know for a fact that NY cops must disclose they are a cop if asked, but I sure wouldn't bet my freedom on it.Maybe it is an internal policy or something, but it sure is not the (federal) law.Now they cettainly do have dealers they cohearse as informants which really amounts to the same thing. well maybe in ny but in nj i know from 3 friends busted. their lawyers laughed when they told them they kept askin if they were cops and said thats only in the movies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeup Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 Originally posted by bkissa really? where did you hear that? 2 reputable birdies about 2/3 weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msoprano Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Originally posted by fwilso01 Thanks for all the replies.....but i was wondering if reverse busts do exist......i have never seen one, but do cops ever pose as dealers in clubs/raves? or only buyers? funny you bring this up but the other night i happened to turn on cops and an undercover cop was selling drugs on a street corner and after he sold the drugs a police car pulls up a block later and arrests the buyer....bullshit if you ask me.....they must have did this to about 15 people.......arresting the buyer will not stop the drug trade.....waiste of jail space if you ask me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liqidxtc Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 its bullshit that cops have to admit being undercover. and i dont speak out of my ass but out of personal experience. 2 youngish women (about 28 each) came up to me about 2 years ago and asked me if i had pills and i asked them if they were cops or they worked for cops and they said no. i'm now on 5 years probation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel77 Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 police does not have to tell you anything esp if theyre working undercover. Its a myth.DEA agents are allowed to take drugs with you and then bust you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juleswinfield Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 They dont have to tell you shit. My short story goes like this. Looking for pills, i ask this guy someone sent me to next thing i know im doin 3 months for conspiracy to possess!! Yes it happens and it happened to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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