alphamale7 Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 I just learned of the new line up at Sound Factory yesterday. I was in shock, very surprised, and also knew this day was coming. Here's why.I first started going to Factory back in the spring of '98. I walked into that place, and never before had I seen anything like it. Besides the beautiful women everywhere, what really got me was the music. What I paid attention to was how everyone was dancing. It was a carnival type atmosphere. Popsicles and ice cream were sold off an ice cream cart right where the new stairs are that go up to the 4th floor. Regardless if drag queens were your thing, they added flair and color to an already upbeat environment. Everyone was in a good mood. People laughed, and most importantly, people danced...everywhere...allll the time. There was no standing around. The crowd was older. Fridays were for the kiddies, and the Saturday crowd was in their mid-twenties to early 30's. Fights were less frequent, incidents were less frequent, and I was told while it wasn't the stuff from the early 90's, the ecstacy wasn't all that bad. People, being a little older and much wiser, were cautious inside that place, making sure nothing stupid happened when "friends" were looking for party favors. JP's sets were great. He still fell into funks now and then and you were wondering where he was going, but overall he played very very well.THEN, people started playing with glass. And over the next few years, slowly, the club started to die. Every one of us has had a conversation similar to what I am about to write. I know, because when I am in Factory I either hear people saying it, or I have the conversation myself. How many of you agree with this statement:It started to become more about the drugs than it did the music. Anyone that used to go way back when can attest to this. Party favors were secondary to the atmosphere. Having a good time and laughing was first and foremost and that is why when you walked into that place you just wanted to start moving. Once Crystal entered the scene, I can remember walking into that place and seeing everyone standing around. No one was dancing, and it wasn't because of the music either. People stare a lot more. Ultimately, the vibe was lost. Crystal is not a happy drug. It makes people wacky and wigged out. Sure it gives you energy, it's supposed to, it's speed. But that kind of energy just allows you to EXIST there longer. It doesn't mean you are celebrating. Then in this "Tina Transition," a couple trannies thought it would be cute to take a guy in the bathroom while he was half-conscious, and mug him. They took his money, and he ended up complaining, which is why, for a very long time, trannies were not allowed in there anymore, except perhaps for the privileged few. The ice cream cart disappeared and it was moved into a freezer over at one of the bars. We, as a whole don't dance as much, and because the older crowd was looking for a good time first and drugs second, well they started to disappear and let the whole thing go, thereby turning the club over to the kiddies, who in turn, on their watch, let the drugs get the best of them. The got stupid and dealt in the open. The club was closed down for several weeks. Ohhhh they loved their Tina, and all of a sudden, more fights break out. Nobody is dancing as much, and it turns into a hang out where music happens to be playing. Crystal is not a happy drug. It is speed. It makes the mind race, and takes the person using it on a roller coaster ride. It keeps people up for days on end, long after the club is closed. Sure, it gives you more energy, but look what THAT type of energy did. And it is a shame too. Richard did a great job of renovating the club to make it what it is. The sound in there is incredible. The 4th floor was opened. It is a great space, arguable the best in the city. JP did his part to. As an artist, over 5 years I have watched him mature, and now his sets are mind blowing. Buy or Sell We All Go To Hell reads the sign. ANd we did. We forced a club owner to search for a different crowd for his venue. We lost our place, and the era is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lustforyou Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 Tina is a dirty skank.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkny8 Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 The GHB didn't help either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozer Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 Well put. I remember when K started getting big, and thinking how insane it was that people were doing it there. Like the Xtc wasn't enough, now its K. I stopped going long before crystal hit that place, but I remember hearing about it and I couldnt believe how much it seemed to take that place over. Im sure there was plenty of people who didn't, but when I use to go it wasnt around at all, and I couldnt believe how much I started hearing about it within the last 2 years. I dont know if its the drugs that killed it, but the open door/anyone can get in with sneakers on probably put a huge hurting on that place too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzikchick Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sheendawg Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 Very interesting post!And I can't fuck with Tina either, know lots of people who do who are PROUD that they've been up for four days and look like some DOG SHIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djstevemelnick Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 It started to become more about the drugs than it did the music. I've been syaing that forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheendawg Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 Boy, is this thread gonna grow! I'm curious to see what everyone else thinks....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetestkitty Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 it was a competition of: who could do the most drugswho could do the largest assortment of drugswho could go the most weeks in a rowwho could stay the longest ..closing/ opening & closing etcnOt fUN:idea: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxbomb Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 yup yup exactly, thats why i havnt been there since early 99besided gettin a lilttle older , the zombie crackheads whetehr it be the G or methit just lost its appeal..Oh well just another chapter that closed on NYc night life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgrod Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 I love SF and JP. And I completely agree with this post. RG would have never touched the Sat night party if it didn't turn into a massive legal headache for him. That closing last winter was what kiled SF.... I guarantee that the wheels were set in motion right after they were allowed to re-open. This is coming from someone who bashed RG when this whole thing happened. But after the initial shock of the whole thing has worn off, I can see now that this is the reason. Sure I've done my share of shit inside those walls, but honestly, I never sold anything in there and I was going there with the intention of hearing JP rip the place apart, not hoping that I got sooooo banged up that I would stay up for 2 days. So while I'm younger 2 (24) I guess my reasons for going there were more old school. If I got a good pill and had a good ride, then more power to me. It just sucks that things got so outta control and eventually they caved in..... I'm gonna miss SF and hearing JP. The club is AWSOME.... I've never seen anything like that in my life. I hope JP lands somewhere new and his next party takes off, and people are a little more responsible with it. Cause really now we can put SF(JP's Version) right there with the clubs that were killed by drugs..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnie Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 Originally posted by lustforyou Tina is a dirty skank.. i did that shit once and had breathing problems and almost died. what a dirty bitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzikchick Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 I tried tina once.....actually, I had the best time. I would never allow myself to get hooked on that feeling, though. Once or twice was enough for me.I had a blast, though, I have to admit. The amount I did wasn't even enough to cover the face of a dime, though...and that was for the entire day. We spent the day cruising around shops and harrassing customers....and dancing through the isles of Walmart. Anything in excess will make you a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit24e Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 Originally posted by muzikchick I tried tina once.....actually, I had the best time. I would never allow myself to get hooked on that feeling, though. Once or twice was enough for me.I had a blast, though, I have to admit. The amount I did wasn't even enough to cover the face of a dime, though...and that was for the entire day. We spent the day cruising around shops and harrassing customers....and dancing through the isles of Walmart. Anything in excess will make you a mess. so was it once or twice. And let me tell you that does sound like a very fun time. Are you a crack whore btw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzikchick Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 Originally posted by exit24e so was it once or twice. And let me tell you that does sound like a very fun time. Are you a crack whore btw? Far from a crack whore..................then again, you go to Exit.....I doubt our definition of fun would be the same.Actually, I think it may have been 3x............had to go check out DT at Space.....those sets tend to be really long.Drugs R Bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit24e Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 Originally posted by muzikchick Far from a crack whore..................then again, you go to Exit.....I doubt our definition of fun would be the same.Actually, I think it may have been 3x............had to go check out DT at Space.....those sets tend to be really long.Drugs R Bad. wel i dont consider sniffing glass and running through Walmart fun. You obviously do. So you had to do it to see Dt at Space, wtf is up with that?you are a fucking crack whore you should stop posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit24e Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 here you go:http://www.drugrehabresource.com/Methadone-Clinics.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzikchick Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 Save it for someone who cares.There's a difference between someone who tries things.....and those who abuse.Someone who calls himself a "hater", is no one I would have anything in common with, argue with yourself.dummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit24e Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 Originally posted by muzikchick Save it for someone who cares.There's a difference between someone who tries things.....and those who abuse.Someone who calls himself a "hater", is no one I would have anything in common with, argue with yourself.dummy I'm arguing with you... bitch. Did you get it yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firedup Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 This topic is stupid....there are drugs in every club...do you think that Junior's party will have less drugs then a JP party...lol!!!You have got to be kidding yourself...wake up...the club scene has always revolved around drugs...changing the venue or a night will not stop the abuse of drugs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit24e Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 Originally posted by firedup This topic is stupid....there are drugs in every club...do you think that Junior's party will have less drugs then a JP party...lol!!!You have got to be kidding yourself...wake up...the club scene has always revolved around drugs...changing the venue or a night will not stop the abuse of drugs... Muzikchick can stop the drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzikchick Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 The crowd was too young and careless, and did not use discretion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firedup Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 Originally posted by muzikchick The crowd was too young and careless, and did not use discretion. that doesn't make any sense...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit24e Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 Originally posted by firedup that doesn't make any sense...? shes just looking for someone to argue with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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