paradeatw Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 Ok, this is just RUDE and WRONG. I have been posting on this board for quite some time now and slowly but surely, the moderators of this community have censored our web site address, deleted our reviews and stories, and now has censored our signature.So everyone on this board knows... PARADE ATW SUPPORTS CLUBPLANET by placing CLUBPLANET banner ads on our site... in return CLUBPLANET censors us on their site and DOES NOT SUPPORT PARADE ATW in anyway possible.Why is this so? Are we not a community that needs to help each other out or is ClubPlanet too big now to be concerned about the small guys in the NYC scene? I am highly upset with the petty bullshit that these groups of people are pulling with PARADE ATW.It not only offends me personally, but hurts CP members as well because CP controls the content that they read. If you continue to censor our posts, you continue to pull away message board freedom and relevant posts that CP members are interested in...I would appreciate a courteous resolve to this matter.Any CP members have any problems with PARADE ATW sharing relevant news, pics and stories with everyone? If not, please voice your opinions because without you, no one will listen. CP members have the power to decide what they want to read.Thank You,Shane FontaneFounder of PARADE ATW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppanils Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 spamming the forums is not going to help your causespilling the details of business deals is not going to help either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paradeatw Posted July 6 Author Report Share Posted July 6 SPAM Definition: Unsolicited "junk" e-mail sent to large numbers of people to promote products or services. Sexually explicit unsolicited e-mail is called "porn spam." Also refers to inappropriate promotional or commercial postings to discussion groups or bulletin boards.'So our postings are not "inappropriate promotional" or "commercial postings" or "Sexually explicit unsolicited e-mail" - this is a shame... i post these posts personally myself to share with others...it's your call guys... to post or not to post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paradeatw Posted July 6 Author Report Share Posted July 6 spilling the details of business deals is not going to help eitherbeing difficult doesn't help either... and it's not a business deal - i contacted someone at CP and asked if they would like FREE ADVERTSING and they said sure and sent a banner over that we happily posted...can we cut through the politics and worry about the scene and the music please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomembername Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 CRY ME A RIVER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaVe Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 All you're doing is using Clubplanet to drive traffic to your site. (A site that by the way has articles, photos, message boards, etc. and could easily be considered to be a competitor of Clubplanet's.) Why should we provide free advertising or traffic to a competitor? You give us a banner ad, great...the amount of traffic is not balanced as CP gets a much larger amount of traffic. We do have an advertising department that will give you more information on all of our advertising options.If you would like to post the full text of your articles, all your photos and other content on Clubplanet, then please feel free to. Or, if you would like to keep all your posts in the Promotions forum only, let me know and I'll consider removing the block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paradeatw Posted July 6 Author Report Share Posted July 6 First of all... our messageboard is no where near the size of yours... we are also not a messageboard community... yes we have pics, but once again - it is nothing like CPs... yes we do have stories and nothing for nothing - they knock the socks off of the articles CP presents... we offer lengthy interviews, informative writing - not two paragraphs of words... at the end of the day people come to CP to post and read the messageboard and maybe hang around for a few other features... people go to parade atw for the stories... this is why we are a netzine and not a messageboard community...if this is not clear, i do not know how else to make it clear...as for the trade-off in traffic, whatever - what ever happened to promoting the scene? that's how you guys started off, and i guess now that you have some cash flow and revenue - your ideals have been compromised and have changed to refelect the bottom line instead of the scene that has helped you grow...what a shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppanils Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 First of all... our messageboard is no where near the size of yours... we are also not a messageboard community... yes we have pics, but once again - it is nothing like CPs... yes we do have stories and nothing for nothing - they knock the socks off of the articles CP presents... we offer lengthy interviews, informative writing - not two paragraphs of words... at the end of the day people come to CP to post and read the messageboard and maybe hang around for a few other features... people go to parade atw for the stories... this is why we are a netzine and not a messageboard community...if this is not clear, i do not know how else to make it clear...as for the trade-off in traffic, whatever - what ever happened to promoting the scene? that's how you guys started off, and i guess now that you have some cash flow and revenue - your ideals have been compromised and have changed to refelect the bottom line instead of the scene that has helped you grow...what a shame :laugh: the whole scene is about making money!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paradeatw Posted July 6 Author Report Share Posted July 6 actually you are wrong... THE SCENE IS ABOUT THE CULTURETHE BUSINESS IS ABOUT MAKING MONEY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepspell Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 First of all... our messageboard is no where near the size of yours... we are also not a messageboard community... yes we have pics, but once again - it is nothing like CPs... yes we do have stories and nothing for nothing - they knock the socks off of the articles CP presents... we offer lengthy interviews, informative writing - not two paragraphs of words... at the end of the day people come to CP to post and read the messageboard and maybe hang around for a few other features... people go to parade atw for the stories... this is why we are a netzine and not a messageboard community...if this is not clear, i do not know how else to make it clear...as for the trade-off in traffic, whatever - what ever happened to promoting the scene? that's how you guys started off, and i guess now that you have some cash flow and revenue - your ideals have been compromised and have changed to refelect the bottom line instead of the scene that has helped you grow...what a shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italianp7 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 I Disagree With You Guys... I Think Shane Should Be Aloud To Keep His Signature And Not Have His Posts Being Deleted Its Pretty F()ked Up That Parade Supports Cp.. And Has Links On Their Site 4 Cp.. But Cp Cant Even Let Shane Post On Their Board,, Without It Being Moved Or Deleted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotoncandydream Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 Dave as always you are correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italianp7 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 Nopeeeeeeeee Shane Is Correct On This One. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotoncandydream Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 Well I think he's wrong and should stop being a parasite. Just go promote your stuff elsewhere you are not the first nor the last website that has tried to use Clubplanet's boards to promote their own stuff. Its tiring, you don't provide anything for them. Not even traffic because you have little to none. Look at your web ranking it's like 385,342. Even my site has more traffic. Clubplanet has writers and they have staff. Earn your own and stop bitching about how they are not letting you leach off their hard work to be more popular. End of rant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italianp7 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 wow u need to relax he wasnt complaining about that... even in regualr posts his signatures are deleted it's wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotoncandydream Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 They are not deleted the url is blocked for promoting his site....which is understandable and has always been CP policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luztidara Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 italianp is as much a parasite to shane as you cottoncandyfreak are to cp. Get a grip on yourself. But please post more cause we drama freaks get bored out here and need freaks like you to crack on and break down.Schma Style 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghhhhhost Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 Nopeeeeeeeee Shane Is Correct On This One.dude..just cause he's ya friend..doesn't mean he's right. im sure Hitler had great friends....but....yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paradeatw Posted July 6 Author Report Share Posted July 6 First, i appreciate your words danielle---Second, Parade ATW is not trying to leach onto no one. We are our own crew, our own zine, our own everything. The people who read our netzine are the same people who go to clubs or participate on the CP board or any other boards.I have viewed this message board as a community of friends that I have posted with and met. Being part of your community leads me to believe that you support each other’s projects for the sake of bettering the ultimate picture - to spread the positive word of dance music and nightlife culture.Now, by your current findings of our ratings - would you still consider us competition? I don't think so. Sounds more like the mega mall crushing local mom and pop stores just so they can control or monopolize a greater share of the market.I could totally understand if Parade ATW was this money making machine, and we avoided paying for ads we could afford by being sneaky and posting on boards, but that is just not the case.Just because CP has writers, staff, etc does not mean it's fair or right to tell smaller businesses or groups that they can not share the good news or happenings with others who may be interested.Our netzine's brand and mission is to SHARE, PROMOTE AND CELEBRATE... and we will continue to do that with or without your support. We will also continue to support your message board community because we support the idea of a place where like-minded people can come together and meet each other.It’s a shame that you think anyone with pics and a messageboard are your competition because that does not say much about the unique values of CP...And I guess it's ok when promoters post ADS (flyers) all over your boards, or when people use their signatures to offer coupons for retail businesses, THAT'S OK I GUESS?Or is that favoritism? You be the judge of that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luztidara Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 I'm a gangsta bitch and I support you parade - shane whatever you are. You always add color to this board. I don't come here to read cp's wonderful copy and paste articles. I read yours! But cp is the fam of clubbers. So represent like you always do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCR Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 Shane, I see your point but I also accept and respect the 'terms and policies' of clubplanet. Ideally, I would hope you guys contact each other and work together to find a mutually beneficial solution.And I am sure it would benefit all the parties involved, including the most important group; the club-goers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebitch Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 my opinion is that you should stop promoting CP on your site and stop complaining that CP doesnt want to promote your corny ass site. you are the only one winning by using CP to try to generate hits to your site. that is precisely why dave doesnt want you spamming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbooom Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 Ok, this is just RUDE and WRONG. I have been posting on this board for quite some time now and slowly but surely, the moderators of this community have censored our web site address, deleted our reviews and stories, and now has censored our signature.So everyone on this board knows... PARADE ATW SUPPORTS CLUBPLANET by placing CLUBPLANET banner ads on our site... in return CLUBPLANET censors us on their site and DOES NOT SUPPORT PARADE ATW in anyway possible.Why is this so? Are we not a community that needs to help each other out or is ClubPlanet too big now to be concerned about the small guys in the NYC scene? I am highly upset with the petty bullshit that these groups of people are pulling with PARADE ATW.It not only offends me personally, but hurts CP members as well because CP controls the content that they read. If you continue to censor our posts, you continue to pull away message board freedom and relevant posts that CP members are interested in...I would appreciate a courteous resolve to this matter.Any CP members have any problems with PARADE ATW sharing relevant news, pics and stories with everyone? If not, please voice your opinions because without you, no one will listen. CP members have the power to decide what they want to read.Thank You,Shane FontaneFounder of PARADE ATWthe opinion is as follows: YOU HAVE A WEBSITE FOR A REASON. USE IT AND STOP SPAMMING YOUR SITE HERE. ASK DAVE ABOUT THE ADVERTISING AND PROMOTIONS AND STOP BITCHING WHEN YOUR FREE ADVERTISEMENTS GET REMOVED. NOT EVERYONE IS AS DUMB AS YOU THINK THEY ARE. i am done now.club kids 2004 rule! hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luztidara Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 Next time you come on here boom schma someone or else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paradeatw Posted July 7 Author Report Share Posted July 7 all you guys are concerned about is your green printed paper... are your CP members really losing when they read a story about a party they went to? Are your members really losing when they read an interview?i have never once received one complaint from a member of your site about any parade atw postings on your boards... I actually met several friends trough this board… so this leads me to believe the moderators who have been given authority by someone else is just trying to do their job...at the end of the day, our site is not corny - hate to break that to you all... if it was, i am sure we wouldn't be working around and continually growing and developing new relationships with people...it's a shame that everything you speak about revolves around money, it sounds as if you are afraid to lose what you feel makes you important...say what you will, call it bitching, call it leaching, call it whatever you want - but never shit where you eat... and if that is not clear enough for you...sucker outside businesses such as cell phone companies, broadband providers, and other major corps to shell out ad dollars to your sell their products to your members, but don't create barriers for those within your industry to grow, it will only hurt you in the end... because if your industry fails, so does your paper thin business model of ad based sales… it does not take a genius to figure that outand by the way, i think your ignorance and petty attitude is quite ugly... you should try a new look…as for PCR – I agree, the club goer is the most important here – I hope we can work this through for them…and bbbooom – who are you calling stupid? I didn’t call anyone stupid… as a matter of fact, I don’t think anyone is stupid, just misinformed – and like I said – do you have anything to say about everyone else’s free advertising through their posts or signatures or is that just Parade ATW because we are considered competition because we have a little message board that anyone can get by downloading a script… like I said – CP better have bigger plans than a message board and member pics to differentiate themselves from future competition if they wish to continue to attract new members and keep old ones… all it takes is someone with a budget slightly bigger than yours and you are left in the archives…not the best plan is it?some bitch – and you say I am the only one winning? I’m glad you think I’m winning, because I didn’t know I was competing. I also didn’t know that if some people on this board bounced over to parade atw because they liked what they seen was considered winning… shit, it’s not my fault CP banner ads on our site are not as effective as my posts on this board (they still get thousands of views, which is about the same amount of views my posts get in total)… did you ever come to think it’s not me and my posts, but something on CPs end that is leading others to stray away… I never bribed no one or forced them to come to our site, did I?i will give CP this though, you guys at least keep this thread going... says more for you than some other boards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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