You are arguing for no reason, I've mentioned I've been going to the Factory for years and haven't been there for a while cause. I know there are a million other clubs in the city. Half of the people in S.Beach/Warsaw that weekend were from NYC. I'm asking some people who go or used to go if it would be worth it, not how bad does it suck or the crack heads, just HOW IS IT NOW. If it was anything else I'd buy a ticket to go see JP in Philly. That's all !!!!! Just asking for info!!!! ------------------ It's all in the music