yo bigart, how much are these programs??? can you get them at any comp store??? ............... oh and i burn all my songs onto cd's i have made hundreds, being from ri....i give a lot of them to my peeps.....cause we just don't have the resources you guys have, so they all love them.....as for my own collection, i have many, i have a huge cd holder like 200 or something, so i just take the paper cover of the blank cd, write down all the tracks on it, and put the paper and the cd into my book, i # every cd too, i like that way cause you can see every song that's on every cd......