Amen to what raver_mania said.... I don't see how raping another man with a light fixture or a broom handle is not torture. Or even forcing a prisoner to masturbate into another prisoner's mouth. Fucking pathetic these apologists are now defending this shit. Relating all detainees and even the ones tortured to insurgents is racist.
Where the fuck did our perspective go. They're over there putting BULLETS in our boys every fucking day, meanwhile the world is in an uproar about what a few soldiers did to a few prisoners which in my mind doesn't even constitute torture. None of them are dead. None of them had their nuts hooked up to car batteries. They could be confirmed murderers for all the world knows, yet they're getting every last drop of sympathy. Where's the sympathy for our troops? Where's the outrage when our boys are shot and killed and have their corpses dragged through the streets and hung on bridges? Where's that outrage when US or British or Japanese personnel are kidnapped, held hostage and executed by bands of street thugs? this has been blown way out of proportion and as always, is NEVER concerned about the subject itself. It's only leverage for people to decry the United States, exploit political weaknesses and use as ammo during an election year. Meanwhile our troops are still dying. fuck this bullshit, fuck the ignorant media who paint this picture in only one light and fuck the shallow assholes who are busy protesting the treatment of Iraqi prisoners who may be condemmed murderers and convicted assassins, but because this land is in love with Disney and stories of good bad and ugly, Iraqi prisoners rotting in a jail cell half a world away get more media attention and a stronger public reaction than the dead americans being shipped home planeload by planeload. that's it. fuck all this ridiculousness.