You know .. there is a radio station in la where the host "Thalia" always says "we thank you for listening to us. We know you have other choices out there and thank you for choosing us." The approach of ICE is contrary to what they should be thinking. Every venue has competition. You dont treat your patrons right, they'll eventually consider other options. Last Saturday, we helped throw a party here in LA for a new venue opening. We pulled in between 3 - 4,000 people. The problem: the venue's line operations failed and gave us a line of approximately over 2 city blocks long. Clubs are micromanagement. And they have word of mouth factor. What Ice is doing here is incorrect.