agree begin time. To digress (on a differnet subject) ... At any venue, the bartender, doorperson, and bathroom attendant are integral to either pissing me off the entire night or putting me in a great mood. Some of my fav spots (that lalate doesnt even do work with) I repatronize because the above are friends and shoot the sht everytime I come in. We know where and how we are celebrating Thanksgiving, what day everyone is back on duty, when and how someone gets injured and will back on at work, who is going through a breakup and medical procedure..... I dont live nightlife in a vacuum. Many do and only see it as the dancefloor and the paint on the wall. For me its a total experience. Many a person is introverted when they go out, but shouldnt be. Because going out is about having fun. Chat it up. For every 3rd prick in the crowd, you'll find someone you enjoy chatting with.... and the moment, it sounds all about, or feels about, taking your money and gouging (sp) you on drink prices and cover and parking then I'm not only heading for the door but telling everyone and anyone not to patronize your spot again. There are too many places in town that bring in five figure net profits PER day treating people great that I dont need to patronizing the contrary.