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so i haven't really been paying attention, but I tried to get on slsk this morning and I got nothing. so I went to the web site and it is also down. what's going on...is everything defunct now?

I read the RIAA settled with a 12 year old girl who lives in a NY project to the tune of $2000...wtf?

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Originally posted by mysteriousss

It's not down.. You just gotta download this little patch.

I'm scared now though.......... And all paranoid :(

i had read about this patch but didn't know where to get it or what it was. just don't DL trademarked music. I dont think there is any problem at all if one continues DL sets that are played on the radio and recorded.

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Originally posted by vicman

i had read about this patch but didn't know where to get it or what it was. just don't DL trademarked music. I dont think there is any problem at all if one continues DL sets that are played on the radio and recorded.

Um, the links I posted explain the whole thing. Where to get it, etc.

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Originally posted by vicman

i had read about this patch but didn't know where to get it or what it was. just don't DL trademarked music. I dont think there is any problem at all if one continues DL sets that are played on the radio and recorded.

That's what I dl most of the time anyway.. But it is still so tempting to download a cd..........

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Originally posted by pgiddy

your all going to jail.......hahahha half of DC CP will be in jail, hey you won't have to worry about posting since you all will be there together........

Good point... This is why everyone should stand up and not roll over for the RIAA. I say take every case they bring up to the (explictative) supreme court. They can't take us all... Can they? :blank:

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Originally posted by pgiddy

your all going to jail.......hahahha half of DC CP will be in jail, hey you won't have to worry about posting since you all will be there together........

for once I'm glad I have a dial up at home... no downloading music for me LOL

Actually I really need to get a high speed connection :( I just keep forgetting about it. :(

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i never DL copyrighted music. . .that sentiment is kind of a fad at the moment, lots of anti-DL literature/talk going around. . .but they persuaded me about two years ago. . .esp. what it does to independent music

taken from www.pro-music.org:

Praga Kahn, (Lords of Acid)

"It is turning into a catastrophe, especially for artists in our genre of music. We make techno music - so the guys are always playing with their computers. Our target audience are therefore 'techno-nerds' who download huge amounts. I can tell you that we have definitely lost 40% of our sales, and this is also due to the fact that we work a lot in the US.

If after 150 or 160 days work in the studio to make an album, people can download it for free, then all the work has been for nothing.

I think that people who propose this kind of thing should also hand over 40 per cent of their profits."

IMPALA

“The younger generation in particular feels that it is quicker, easier and cheaper to download. Yet marketing costs (for record companies) are increasing. It’s getting harder to have your records in the stores. It is more and more expensive to do so, for less revenue. The equation is very easy: more costs and less revenue equals bankruptcy.

The traditional weakness of independent companies is working capital. In a market where access is harder, you need more staff and more means. As soon as you are in the red you have a problem because you have hardly any reserves. And the whole system is in jeopardy because nowadays to keep your artist you need to be able to compete with the majors and understand how to develop an act and that is a long and expensive process.

A decreasing number of labels are capable of surviving. There are less sales on fewer products. Distribution companies have more and more problems because there is less revenue. So the whole chain is in danger.

I think that we are living in a very contradictory time. There is more and more music consumption. The most popular thing on the internet, (apart from pornography), is music. It is one of the biggest attractions for cable operators selling broadband and rapid access to people. I wonder what would happen to the internet on the day that music disappears - because there would be no production houses. Some cable companies might be happy to see the music industry disappear, but this would put them in a more difficult position when it comes to selling broadband access.â€

Michel Lambot, Chairman of Impala

FIM

“The International Federation of Musicians (FIM) is the longest established and most comprehensive international organisation representing musicians in all genres of music. It has been fully involved in protecting musicians’ interests in all the developments arising from digital technology including the internet and associated communications technologies.

Musicians generally have welcomed these developments but have sought - and continue to seek - a fair framework of legal protection and related statutory rights to enable them to practise their profession and continue to develop their skills and talents. Most fair-minded music lovers recognise that music performers, composers, producers and associated creative and technical contributors to music on the web and in the home need to be properly rewarded for their efforts in order that music can continue to develop and new artistes and works can flourish.

Piracy - which includes free downloading - undermines all this and threatens the future of music. The International Federation of Musicians (FIM) and its member organisations throughout the world join with the other creative interests in a campaign to awaken public interest in these issues and to call on all legislators to provide a satisfactory national and international legal framework to safeguard new music, new markets and new consumer satisfaction.

Piracy is the major threat to creativity and tomorrow’s music and musicians.â€

John Morton, President of FIM

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Originally posted by scratchapella

IMPALA

“The younger generation in particular feels that it is quicker, easier and cheaper to download. Yet marketing costs (for record companies) are increasing. It’s getting harder to have your records in the stores. It is more and more expensive to do so, for less revenue. The equation is very easy: more costs and less revenue equals bankruptcy.

The traditional weakness of independent companies is working capital. In a market where access is harder, you need more staff and more means. As soon as you are in the red you have a problem because you have hardly any reserves. And the whole system is in jeopardy because nowadays to keep your artist you need to be able to compete with the majors and understand how to develop an act and that is a long and expensive process.

A decreasing number of labels are capable of surviving. There are less sales on fewer products. Distribution companies have more and more problems because there is less revenue. So the whole chain is in danger.

I think that we are living in a very contradictory time. There is more and more music consumption. The most popular thing on the internet, (apart from pornography), is music. It is one of the biggest attractions for cable operators selling broadband and rapid access to people. I wonder what would happen to the internet on the day that music disappears - because there would be no production houses. Some cable companies might be happy to see the music industry disappear, but this would put them in a more difficult position when it comes to selling broadband access.â€

Michel Lambot, Chairman of Impala

unfortunately as with othr things in life, the cost of simply living is also going up. we pay more to drive a car, buy food to eat, take public transportation etc.

that is why everymeans possible to save $$$ is ok, like DL copyrighted music, DL movies, stealing cable, stealing twinkies from 7-11 :D

j/k

yeah well i duno, there is no easy and immediate answer to this. i guess CD's, records etc. are on their way out. middle men will go out of business and the consumer will be able to deal directly with the artist or record company that makes that material available.

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