so ... uh ... why are you voitn for bush ??

[tres-b]

what did Bush do before he was president that made people see him as the right choice for the last election? NOTHING.

Besides liberating two countries and eliminating thousands of Muslim terrorists, you are right.

[somebitch]

go back to the sex board grumpy!

you cant answer the question huh???

its OK, i <3 u anyway.

[somebitch]

Besides liberating two countries and eliminating thousands of Muslim terrorists, you are right.

I SAID BEFORE HIS PRESIDENCY.

THE THINGS YOU STATED ARE DEBATEABLE ANYWAY

[tres-b]

Just a few things. BTW, curious (like somebitch mentioned) what were some of Bush's pre-2000 accomplishments (other than sniffing coke on his ranch)?

Are you really making drug use and issue? Give me a break. NON ISSUE

[kramadas]

Besides liberating two countries and eliminating thousands of Muslim terrorists, you are right.

How did he "liberate" two countries and eliminate thousands of muslim terrorists BEFORE he was president???

[kramadas]

I SAID BEFORE HIS PRESIDENCY.

THE THINGS YOU STATED ARE DEBATEABLE ANYWAY

beat me to it

[kramadas]

Are you really making drug use and issue? Give me a break. NON ISSUE

unfortunately it seems like thats the ONLY thing he's got (well, other than dubious service in the guard).

[vixengirly]

hahaha i didnt know that some of u were the grammar police!!!! listen, u can all say what u want. i have better things to do than to type in an educated format in order for u to understand my point. this is a fuckin messageboard not my senior sem class. Its so pointless arguing on this topic... may the better of 2 evils win i guess...

[siceone]

you cant answer the question huh???

its OK, i <3 u anyway.

he was govenor of a state just like alot of other presidents.

[somebitch]

he was govenor of a state just like alot of other presidents.

you need to go back to the begining to understand why I asked the question. it was in reply to spragga asking what kerry has done to prove he is a qualified candidate. I asked in reply "what did bush do before he was president that made him anymore qualified then kerry is now?".

[mrmatas2277]

yea i will....cuz it was clinton who left a mess and BUSH had to take the wrath,,,....if neone had half a BRAIN...they would be happy were straighten those bitches out and i dont give 2 rats asses bout the the fact that this might also be bc of oil. incase u didnt kno, AMERICA needs oil to function...we are not europe where we can walk out our door and walk to the food store. This country was doomed if we didnt take the intiative and do some work over there... u people are unreal!!!!!! ur buddy clinton also sold nuclear weapons plans to north korea...so lets not go there!

havent seen u in this forum before...all newbies must post their pics....

[pookie23]

Just a few things. BTW, curious (like somebitch mentioned) what were some of Bush's pre-2000 accomplishments (other than sniffing coke on his ranch)?

Building a Stronger Economy

Crossed Party Lines to Support a Balanced Budget and Cast the Decisive Vote to Create 23 Million New Jobs. Shortly after joining the Senate, John Kerry crossed party lines to bring fiscal discipline back to Washington.

Fought for Gramm-Rudman-Hollings, Deficit Reduction Act, Balanced Budget Act. John Kerry cosponsored and voted for the landmark Gramm-Rudman-Hollings balanced budget and deficit reduction bill to end runaway deficits. In 1993, John Kerry supported the Deficit Reduction Act, which put America back on track toward a balanced budget and fiscal discipline. John Kerry's vote reduced the deficit and resulted in the creation of 23 million new jobs. John Kerry also voted for the historic 1997 Balanced Budget Act, which dramatically reduced spending and balanced the budget for the first time in a generation.

Helped Increase the Minimum Wage. John Kerry was instrumental in passing the most recent increase in the minimum wage - to $5.15 per hour in 1997.

Fought for the Child Tax Credit. John Kerry led a successful fight for an amendment he introduced to make sure that all working families receive a child tax credit.

Stood Up for Small Business. As chairman of the Senate Small Business Committee, John Kerry promoted policies to increase access to capital, open international markets, foster innovative technology companies, reduce red tape and increase federal contracting opportunities. He also created and improved the MicroLoan program, expanded the successful nationwide Women's Business Centers (WBC) and loan programs that help the small businesses of reservists stay afloat while they are on active duty.

Making America Safer

Fought For 100,000 Additional Cops on the Street. As a former prosecutor, John Kerry understands the importance of strong law enforcement. That's why he led the fight to add police on our streets through his amendment to the 1993 Crime Control bill. John Kerry's amendment provided for $150 million to hire 100,000 new police officers - a measure widely regarded as having helped to lower the crime rate across the country.

Fought to Modernize and Strengthen America's Military. John Kerry has supported over $4 trillion in defense funding and has supported virtually every successful weapons system in use by today's military. In 2002, John Kerry voted for the largest increase in defense spending since the 1980's. And because John Kerry understands that our national security begins with the men and women who risk their lives to protect it, he has supported pay increases, benefit increases, and quality-of-life improvements for America's men and women in uniform throughout his career.

Fought Global Terrorism. John Kerry introduced critical legislation for cracking down on international laundering of terrorist funds. He was one of the key architects of anti-money-laundering provisions in the Patriot Act designed to deny financing for terrorists, and he has consistently used these provisions to press the Bush administration to crack down on terrorist financing activities by Syria and Saudi Arabia. He introduced a bill to ban arms exports to countries that provide support for acts of international terrorism, a proposal that was incorporated into the final 1990 State Department Authorization Bill.

Made the Homeland More Secure. John Kerry was an original co-sponsor of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act of 2001, which improved our nation's airline security after September 11th. He also helped pass legislation in response to September 11th that placed armed Coast Guard personnel on high-risk vehicles such as oil and gas tankers as they enter port.

Worked to Prevent the Spread of Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Weapons. John Kerry has made preventing the spread of nuclear weapons a top priority. He fought for ratification of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, fought against withdrawal from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, and has been a strong and persistent advocate of programs that help secure nuclear, biological and chemical weapons stockpiles and materials in the former Soviet Union so they do not fall into the hands of hostile states or terrorists.

Expanding and Improving Health Care

for All Americans

A Leader in Expanding Access and Lowering the Cost of Health Care for America's Children. John Kerry was there at the beginning of the fight to provide the largest investment in children's health care since the creation of Medicaid.

Wrote Pre-Cursor Bill to S-CHIP, Providing Coverage for up to 5 Million Children. John Kerry's 1996 bill, the Healthy Children, Family Assistance Health Insurance Program, was the precursor to the successful State Children's Health Insurance Program (S-CHIP) that became law in 1997. S-CHIP provides funding to cover 5 million children.

Improved Coverage and Care for America's Veterans. John Kerry has been a tireless champion of mandatory funding for veterans' health care. He fought vigorously for full funding of Veterans Administration (VA) health care and opposed the Bush administration's exclusion of Priority 8 veterans and its elimination of VA outreach efforts. He sought improved prescription drug benefits and authored legislation in 2003 to let veterans fill prescriptions written by non-VA doctors through the VA pharmacy.

Improved Post-Natal Care. John Kerry co-sponsored an amendment that successfully required health care plans to provide coverage for a minimum hospital stay for a mother and child following the birth of the child.

Fought HIV/AIDS. John Kerry was among the earliest supporters of the Ryan White Comprehensive AIDS Resources Emergency (CARE) Act, which today is the largest discretionary federal investment in treatment and support services for individuals and families living with HIV or AIDS. Today, 533,000 Americans with HIV/AIDS receive better treatment through this program.

Addressed America's Nursing Shortage. John Kerry wrote the Nurse Reinvestment Act to help relieve a nationwide, crisis-level shortage of registered nurses by encouraging more young people to choose a career in nursing. Today, enrollment rates at undergraduate nursing programs are up by 17 percent.

Making America More Respected

in the World

Helped Spread Democracy and Human Rights Throughout the World. John Kerry was a leading advocate for democratic elections in the Philippines, serving as an elections monitor as part of a Senate delegation that uncovered the fraud that led to the ouster of President Ferdinand Marcos. He was a strong proponent of U.S. participation in the NATO intervention that put an end to the ethnic cleansing in Kosovo. He worked with the United Nations and Cambodian government officials to facilitate the creation of the genocide tribunal in Cambodia that will prosecute key members of the Khmer Rouge. He sponsored the Code of Conduct of Arms Transfers Act, which prohibited U.S. military assistance and arms transfers to nations that do not adequately protect the human rights of their citizens. And he co-sponsored bipartisan legislation which imposed sanctions on Burma's military regime for detaining Aung San Suu Kyi and repressing her National League for Democracy party.

Fought Global HIV/AIDS. John Kerry authored major elements of the Global AIDS and Tuberculosis Relief Act of 2000, legislation which at the time provided the most money ever for fighting AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis around the world. He sponsored the bipartisan U.S. Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Act of 2002, comprehensive legislation that was unanimously approved by the Senate and became the foundation of the global AIDS legislation that was passed by congress and signed by President Bush.

Fought International Crime, Corruption and Drug Trafficking. John Kerry chaired the landmark hearings that uncovered the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) scandal - the largest banking corruption scandal in modern times. He led hearings which provided evidence that Haitian military officials were involved in drug trafficking to the United States. He also led hearings on corruption and drug trafficking by Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega, and introduced legislation requiring the Reagan administration to cut off foreign aid to Panama because of drug-related corruption within its government.

Uncovered Government Corruption. John Kerry went on a fact-finding mission to Nicaragua and presented his findings to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Based in part on John Kerry's groundbreaking findings, the committee reached a consensus decision to investigate the Contra guerillas and their connection to drug trafficking in the United States. The resulting investigation uncovered the Iran-Contra scandal, a scheme that diverted profits from illegal arms sales to Iran to support the Contra guerilla fighters in Nicaragua.

Other Important Accomplishments

Took on the Task of Investigating POW/MIA Issues. John Kerry and John McCain "doggedly investigated" an important and volatile issue which some described as an "unglamorous task that nobody else wanted." Regarding the investigation, John McCain said, "John Kerry handled the chairmanship of that committee with tremendous skill." In 1994, John Kerry sponsored an amendment with McCain that urged the American government to lift its 25-year trade embargo with Vietnam. He then worked closely with McCain and President Clinton to facilitate full normalization of trade and diplomatic relations with Vietnam.

Fought to Help Victims of Agent Orange. Beginning more than 15 years ago, John Kerry introduced legislation to assist veterans in receiving medical compensation after being exposed to the toxic chemical Agent Orange. John Kerry even testified before Congress to force the government to care for Vietnam veterans. John Kerry's bill, the Comprehensive Agent Orange Scientific Evidence Review Act, sought to require that the Veterans Administration(VA) look into the "health effects of exposure" to Agent Orange. John Kerry also voted to pass the Agent Orange Act of 1991 and the Veterans' Agent Orange Exposure and Vietnam Service Benefits Act of 1989.

Fought to Protect America's Environment. John Kerry has been described by the League of Conservation Voters as an "environmental champion." He introduced legislation to improve standards for clean air and establish a fund to finance emissions reductions. He secured millions of dollars in funding to clean America's waterways, harbors, and drinking water, worked to strengthen the Safe Drinking Water Act, and introduced legislation in 1996 to ensure "protection in the quality of our water." He sponsored legislation that extended and strengthened laws protecting marine mammals from commercial fishing. He helped protect America's National Parks and National Forests from pollution, excessive logging, and overdevelopment while ensuring that endangered species are preserved for all Americans to experience. He has opposed opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling for over a decade, ensuring that future generations can experience this national treasure. He strongly advocated for U.S. participation in the Kyoto accords and other international environmental initiatives, and personally participated in many major world environmental summits, including conferences at Rio di Janiero, Kyoto and the Hague.

Fought for America's Veterans. John Kerry has been a tireless champion of mandatory funding for veterans' health care. He fought vigorously for full funding of VA health care and opposed the Bush administration's exclusion of Priority 8 veterans and its elimination of VA outreach efforts. He sought improved prescription drug benefits and authored legislation in 2003 to let veterans fill prescriptions written by non-VA doctors through the VA pharmacy. As chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, John Kerry investigated the fate of missing American soldiers in Vietnam and brought about the resolution of this difficult issue for their families and for the governments of both countries. In 1994, he sponsored an amendment with Senator McCain that urged the American government to lift its 25-year trade embargo with Vietnam. He then worked closely with Senator McCain and President Clinton to facilitate full normalization of trade and diplomatic relations with Vietnam.

Stood Up for America's Children. John Kerry wrote the bill that became the foundation for the 1997 State Children's Health Insurance Program (S-CHIP), which provided states with federal funding to help extend health insurance coverage to children whose families do not qualify for Medicaid. He introduced legislation to expand state and local early childhood development efforts, including education, child care and health care for children between birth and six years old. At the end of 2000, a version of this bipartisan legislation was signed into law. To address the needs of America's at-risk youth, John Kerry led the effort to establish the YouthBuild program, which provides young people with basic education toward a diploma and the skills training they need to get a good-paying job. YouthBuild also teaches leadership and civic engagement while providing students with adult mentors who help them overcome personal problems and participate in a supportive community with positive values.

Fought for Affordable Housing. As a member of the Senate Housing Subcommittee, John Kerry has a long record of fighting for affordable housing. He shaped the first significant rewrite of the public housing program in over 20 years and worked to craft and pass a bill that helped save the government billions of dollars in rental assistance payments, preserved thousands of affordable rental apartments, and helped finance the rehabilitation of those apartments. With Senator Jim Jeffords (I-VT), John Kerry sponsored the Affordable Housing Preservation Act to foster local partnerships between non-profits, state and local governments, and private landlords in order to keep existing housing projects available and affordable for low-income tenants. He worked to create and implement the "mark-up to market" program and he co-authored the Affordable Housing for Seniors and Families Act of 2000.

Took you only 2 days to find that on the internet...impressive

[ghhhhhost]

havent seen u in this forum before...all newbies must post their pics....

shes hot

[mrmatas2277]

shes hot

well..forum rules...she has to post a pic......btw happy belated....

[vixengirly]

file://localhost/Users/heathervilla/Desktop/club%20pics/express%20in%20nyc%20Folder/heather%20chris.jpg

file://localhost/Users/heathervilla/Desktop/pretty%20pics/hoboken%20heathr%20carl.jpg

i have some more.... but i dont send lots of pics to strangers lol.... hi ghhhooooossstttt havin fun in PA

[mrmatas2277]

file://localhost/Users/heathervilla/Desktop/club%20pics/express%20in%20nyc%20Folder/heather%20chris.jpg

file://localhost/Users/heathervilla/Desktop/pretty%20pics/hoboken%20heathr%20carl.jpg

well sweetie those addresses u put up, arent working...help me out here...

[vicman]

havent seen u in this forum before...all newbies must post their pics....

preferably nekkid.

it says so on the CP Moderator Handbook.

Section MXCXXXVIII;Title 17.b.a-342; under article LLCXVI-Parragraph 19y-uta/89.0-c

"individuals who fall under the female gender are required to post nekkid pictures of themselves within 7 work days of initially posting on a new forum. penalty of not follwoing said rule, will be determined as specified under Section MXCLXXCVI;Title 23571.b.a-9012; article LXCMAcKJLCXVI-Parragraph 1312929ffacard-uytaa/9871.0-ckoa-d."

[nootsy]

haha - so according to you, Clinton was not responsible for the 1993 attacks, but Bush Sr!

You better give a rat's ass if its about oil. Wow, from your typing I can I take it that you're young or quite uneducated, so I'll excuse your inability to see past your own hand. Do you even understand that a war about oil could lead to many more 9/11's?? Do you even realize that the situations in Afghanistan and Iraq are NOT getting better. Yeah, I've talked to marines who're there. One my best friends who gives me a ride home is an instructor in the army (right now he teaches ROTC). HIs friends(currently serving in Iraq) say that the enemy is becoming more and more sophisticated. The people, who at one time might have been friendly, are now overtly hostile! And these guys are conservatives!

Clinton sold nuclear weapons plans to N Korea - jeez, time to stop listening to Ann Coultor!! haha

Yeah, and lets not forget the republicans selling biological and chemical weapons to Iraq in the 80's - weapons which were used to kill thousands of Kurds!

you're are so blind it'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic!

My brothers Friends, Cousins, aunts, sisters,son just got back from Iraq and he said 72%+ of our military support George Bush - No wait actually that is a real poll.

Clinton Gave The technology to N. Korea that helped them develop there own Nuclear weapons. I dont think that was his intention - more so he was duped by Them.

I will Say this One more time - There is only one Place Bush is fighting for Oil - Thats in Congress against the Democrats when he tries to Drill in Alaska which will greatly reduce the amount of oil needed from The Middle East. The Saudi Family has more to make off of the Political agenda of the Dems then the republicans. By the way the people in Alaska want us to drill there.

George Bush was is office less then 9 months on 911 to blame that on him is Rediculous. I do not Blame Clinton either - I blame our lack of intelligence. Which was reduced By Clinton for 8 years but I dont think anyone could have imagined 911.

Take a deep breath and relax cause Today Tomorrow and for 4 more years Bush and a 55 - 44 majority are going to be in office

[vixengirly]

hmm i can always IM them to u if u prefer....pervert

hhahahaha... PM me

[kramadas]

My brothers Friends, Cousins, aunts, sisters,son just got back from Iraq and he said 72%+ of our military support George Bush - No wait actually that is a real poll.

Hmm...I don't really care if you believe me or not. I know what I know, I know my friends are legit sources, so you can think what you want. Besides, polls don't really mean shit - they only takes samples. The exit polls showed that Kerry was going to win both Florida AND Ohio. Supposedly random sampling polling is supposed to be effective - I'm really starting to doubt that. What was the sample population and error in this poll you're talking about?

Clinton Gave The technology to N. Korea that helped them develop there own Nuclear weapons. I dont think that was his intention - more so he was duped by Them.

He gave them technology to make nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, and had a deal struck with them. Hmm...gee I wonder who it was that came into power in 2000 and antagonized North korea?

This girl vixen stated that Clinton gave N Koread nuclear weapons technology which is bullshit.

I will Say this One more time - There is only one Place Bush is fighting for Oil - Thats in Congress against the Democrats when he tries to Drill in Alaska which will greatly reduce the amount of oil needed from The Middle East. The Saudi Family has more to make off of the Political agenda of the Dems then the republicans. By the way the people in Alaska want us to drill there.

Again, it was this girl who brough up the oil issue. I'm not aware the people in Alaska want us to drill there - how about some proof? Ever read that article about Bremer's initial economic "shock and awe" plan that backfired. If you think oil does not play some part in this, then I'm going to have to say that you're misled.

George Bush was is office less then 9 months on 911 to blame that on him is Rediculous. I do not Blame Clinton either - I blame our lack of intelligence. Which was reduced By Clinton for 8 years but I dont think anyone could have imagined 911.

Agreed. Again, I don't know about intelligence being reduced by Clinton unless you're privvy to top secret info in the CIA. So, unless you work there, you and I do know squat about what really goes on in the intelligence community.

The reason this came up is because this chick was blaming Clinton for 9/11.

Take a deep breath and relax cause Today Tomorrow and for 4 more years Bush and a 55 - 44 majority are going to be in office

Oh I am, because if Bush is not able to recover this war, the economy, deficit, etc, then there is going to be some answering to do in a couple of years time. And lord forbid that there is another terror attack - Republicans will be out for sure.

Since you're a newcomer I'll assume you have not read the articles I've posted regarding the deep unhappiness and anger within the republican party (directed toward Bush and the neo-con agenda).

[kramadas]

hmm i can always IM them to u if u prefer....pervert

hhahahaha... PM me

hmm...you just post them! All mods have to view them and approve!

[nootsy]

Hmm...I don't really care if you believe me or not. I know what I know, I know my friends are legit sources, so you can think what you want. Besides, polls don't really mean shit - they only takes samples. The exit polls showed that Kerry was going to win both Florida AND Ohio. Supposedly random sampling polling is supposed to be effective - I'm really starting to doubt that. What was the sample population and error in this poll you're talking about?

The Military Vote is Pro Bush - Fact

He gave them technology to make nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, and had a deal struck with them. Hmm...gee I wonder who it was that came into power in 2000 and antagonized North korea?

This girl vixen stated that Clinton gave N Koread nuclear weapons technology which is bullshit

. Exactly but without the Tech he wouldnt be able to do it. Plus he was developing weapoms b4 Bush was in office

Again, it was this girl who brough up the oil issue. I'm not aware the people in Alaska want us to drill there - how about some proof? Ever read that article about Bremer's initial economic "shock and awe" plan that backfired. If you think oil does not play some part in this, then I'm going to have to say that you're misled.

One of the Big issues in Alaska this Campaign was oil. The Alaskan people need it for the economy

Agreed. Again, I don't know about intelligence being reduced by Clinton unless you're privvy to top secret info in the CIA. So, unless you work there, you and I do know squat about what really goes on in the intelligence community.

The reason this came up is because this chick was blaming Clinton for 9/11.

I am privy to some info but not from the CIA - It is public info that Clinton Cut the CIA and the military during his 8 years

Oh I am, because if Bush is not able to recover this war, the economy, deficit, etc, then there is going to be some answering to do in a couple of years time. And lord forbid that there is another terror attack - Republicans will be out for sure.

I believe In 4 years Bush will recover everything with the exception of the defecit - I think it will be reduced but not eliminated. The stock market jumped just knowing Bush will be in 4 more years. You people forget he had 911 - That alone lost over 1 million jobs how do you blame that on the pres

Since you're a newcomer I'll assume you have not read the articles I've posted regarding the deep unhappiness and anger within the republican party (directed toward Bush and the neo-con agenda).

over 58,000,999 votes not too many people angry - Most votes for a pres ever

[kramadas]

over 58,000,999 votes not too many people angry - Most votes for a pres ever

wait, you're going by just plain numbers! You ARE kidding right?!?

NOt too angry - this country is more divided than it has ever been!