zarjoe Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 Hi all... everytime I turn to this board for help you guys have great advice, good ideas and HOOK UPS!Here's what's up... this weekend July 8-10, we are coming into Vegas to party and celebrate (bdays, summer, weekend, all of the above)... we are staying at TheHOTEL and want to spend Friday/Saturday DAYTIME at Moorea Beach Club. We are a late 20's couple (the girl is HOT, and I am hot enough to be with her... but more humble ) LOLWhen I called the hotel, all the Day Beds are reserved.... does anyone have a friend at Mandalay Bay or one of their clubs that can get this reservation? I am not looking to get it free, just the reservation. I will pay the hotel whatever they rent for ($200/day) and whoever can do this for me gets a $100 tip (p@yp@l now or cash if you want to meet up that weekend). So, hosts, las vegans and other connected peoples.... can you help? PM me before Wednesday if you can. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmasterweb Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 Advice.#1 if you gamble, talk to someone in player development.#2 if you don't gamble, tell the concierge you will throw them a $50 if he/she can make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarjoe Posted July 5 Author Report Share Posted July 5 DJMasterweb: Thanks for the reply. I tried the concierge at theHOTEL and she just transfered my call before I had a chance to offer her anything. I will try that again. I am a craps player and do gamble a few hours a day, but haven't played at MB for about a year (since before the MGM merger) and don't have a host there yet... I don't know what player development will say, but its not a HUGE favor or even a comp so its worth a shot.Thanks for the advice. Any suggestions for good house music, pre-afterhours for this weekend (Thurs 7/7 - Sat 7/9)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete825 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 My girl and I are also going to be staying at theHOTEL this weekend. Found out that there's a Swingers convention in town at the Stardust, but theHOTEL is base camp for several of the groups. The groups are throwing pool parties during the day all weekend long. So, it should make for some really interesting people watching, but it's probably going to be impossible to get beds. Let us know if you find out anything good going down in the area of house on Fri night.~Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarjoe Posted July 6 Author Report Share Posted July 6 Pete & DJMasterWeb...Thanks to earlier advice and some higher level craps play than I remember at MB over a year ago, I called MB and found a host who said no problem! We have a bed both days. He also said that he'll watch my play this trip and try to do something about the room charges, beds and misc.... so we'll see. But either way, we got the bed! Thanks DJMasterweb!Pete, yeah we heard something about that group too, but its the weekend after the 4th so it shouldn't be too packed.... and it should make for some interesting people watching FO REAL!Have fun.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete825 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 That's what we get for going to Vegas just to party and never gamble: never any hook ups like that. But i'm sure you've dropped more than enough cash at the tables to be treated a little better than us mere mortals. Looks like I'll once again be relying on my girl's boobs to get us over. Yeah, I'm bad like that... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalate Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 My girl and I are also going to be staying at theHOTEL this weekend. Found out that there's a Swingers convention in town at the Stardust, but theHOTEL is base camp for several of the groups. The groups are throwing pool parties during the day all weekend long. So, it should make for some really interesting people watching, but it's probably going to be impossible to get beds. Let us know if you find out anything good going down in the area of house on Fri night.~PeaceI heard not theHotel but another place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenie Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 That's what we get for going to Vegas just to party and never gamble: never any hook ups like that. But i'm sure you've dropped more than enough cash at the tables to be treated a little better than us mere mortals.Gambling comps are not nearly as good as they were in the past, especially when the hotels were more expensive on weeknights than on weekends. Ever since non-gambling entertainment/nightlife became such a significnat part of the economy, the comps have really dropped.My father, a pro tournament blackjack player, explained it to me like this: for every hour of monitored play (an average bet of $25 for table games), the house credits you with anywhere from 2 to 5 percent of the total chips you've had in play (cashed in on the table). So if you manage to sit at a table for 2 hours and have an average of $500 in chips on the table, at best you'll be getting $50 towards your players' club account.Now figure that the bigger joints want $200 and up for a room per weekend night, you're only a quarter of the way there.Where the smaller-money gambler can use this to their advantage is to parlay that $50-100 on their players' club into getting tables with no waiting/reservations at the better resort restaurants.This is why the casinos are just like the nightclubs in that your best friend will be the VIP Host. They're the ones that have the power to ignore whatever points/credit you have in your players' club and simply comp you because they feel like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmasterweb Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 Actually, the way it really works for low and middle rollers is that the casino uses formulas to derive your "theoretical loss" based on how much the house will win per hour if you were to play the way you play over a long period of time. For example, if you play basic strategy blackjack and bet $100 a hand, the house has about a $1.50 advantage every time you place a bet, so they calculate $1.50 times the amount of hands you play per hour. That is your hourly "theo" loss. Then they allocate up to 20% to 40% of that theo loss towards soft comps. A soft comp is something that you receive for free, which would have cost you money out of pocket without the comp, but doesn't cost the casino the actual amount you would have paid. Example, a room comp doesn't cost the casino the amount you would have paid --- but reimbursing for an airline ticket would cost them full price -- a "hard" comp. It's very hard to get hard comps unless you are a higher roller. Plus, if you are a high roller, the casino may also honor "discounts" in which you get paid back a certain percentage of your loss that trip (assuming you lose). The problem with today's corporate casinos, and all the merging, is that the casinos are lowering their comp percentages, so it is harder to get good comps. However for soft comps like pool beds, it is still pretty easy, since it costs the casino so little to do so. The moral to the comp story still remains the same - if you don't ask, you won't receive - so always talk to a host or someone in player development, and remember, your goal is to sell them on how much your play may add up for their theoretical wins -- because hosts are paid based on your theoretical (and also note that they are incentivized to not overcomp so you still need to make them feel you will play a lot). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete825 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 I heard not theHotel but another place. Just talked to some people I know. 2 different groups are doing a multi-nightclub thing from Thursday-Saturday and both are calling theHOTEL headquaters. Not too sure all the clubs they are hitting and on which nights, but if anyone really wants to know, I'm sure I can find out for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenie Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 Masterweb explained it much better than my poor attempt! I was speaking more to the "corporate" casino approach, where if you ask them what you can get, they'll tell you in terms of dollar values that you'd otherwise be paying. For example, after playing for a bit you may ask a host what you're eligible for and they'll tell you $30 towards a resort restaurant. Typically though at the bigger (corporate) casinos, if you're not averaging a $25 bet, aren't keeping a decent bank in view and aren't playing for very long, you're not going to get very far.The key is exactly as MW said, the the key is to always ask, no matter what size roller you think you may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalate Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 are calling theHOTEL headquaters. This LA girl told me otherwise. But her info was 2nd hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlosangeles Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 Typically though at the bigger (corporate) casinos, if you're not averaging a $25 bet, aren't keeping a decent bank in view and aren't playing for very long, you're not going to get very far.From my personal experience, it goes off how much you bet per hand per hour or your average bet over an hour period.I don't know if it is different if you win or lose but here is what happened to me...true storyMy buddy and me walk into Mirage to play some blackjack after clubbin'. It's around 3 am so we got the table to ourselfs. Important later cuz the pit boss was riding us. My buddy is a bigger gambler then me and starts with 1G. I break out a couple of C's. The pit boss asked if we wanted player cards. We gave him our drivers lic. and received cards. We sat there for 4-5 hours. We were on one of those tears! My buddy had 7 G's in front of him and I had 3 G's. You heard me, $3000! I averaged somewhere around $125 per hand. My buddy averaged some where around $500 per hand. Within another hour, he had nothing and I had $3400 and we left. Limo home was on me! =)A few weeks later we both called the hotel for a players rate. Guess who got what????I called and asked for casino hosts.. The guy told me I had a good average bet but I didn't play long enough. They comped my friend a room for a Friday & Saturday night! I guess I knew who they wanted back!Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlosangeles Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 BTW, if you don't stay @ Mandalay Bay, is there a cover charge for Moorea Beach on Saturdays? What's the place like?No need to describe the pool, but the music, crowd, and atmoshpere....Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomembername Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 (the girl is HOT) post picsLooks like I'll once again be relying on my girl's boobs to get us over. post pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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