thehype Posted December 31 Report Share Posted December 31 please explain this one JP fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKDJ Posted December 31 Report Share Posted December 31 Vicious is actually more diverse and been traveling alot more and longer than JP... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montbh Posted December 31 Report Share Posted December 31 and he's better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghhhhhost Posted December 31 Report Share Posted December 31 vicious probably doesnt own a laptop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbull Posted December 31 Report Share Posted December 31 cause back in 1996 johnny vicious was actually cutting edge for that era and also had his hands on the entire catalog of i think prelude or salsoul records. And the remixes he was working on were awesome in brinign in newer music with older vocals, but then he turn away from that sound and well now you know what hes like.ALSO IM NOT A JP FAN at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmadness Posted December 31 Report Share Posted December 31 It's pretty simple just listen to what they say before each Essential Mix.."Only The Worlds Best DJ's On The Worlds Best Turntables"Nuff Said!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghhhhhost Posted December 31 Report Share Posted December 31 lets not get carried away..vicious hasnt been considered decent in yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmadness Posted December 31 Report Share Posted December 31 lets not get carried away..vicious hasnt been considered decent in yrsEverywhere else in the world considers him decent. My comment was a generalization, not aimed at Vicious in partictular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghhhhhost Posted December 31 Report Share Posted December 31 where else outside the US has vicious spun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastsider Posted December 31 Report Share Posted December 31 probably bc johnny viscious has mixed compilations for MOS and such, and Digweed was afraid that Jp was going to send in and hr long madonna remix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edubz Posted December 31 Report Share Posted December 31 please explain this one JP fansJP is not known much outside of the tri-state area. That doesnt mean he sucks or vicious is better, its just the way the industry works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidskyny Posted December 31 Report Share Posted December 31 probably bc johnny viscious has mixed compilations for MOS and such, and Digweed was afraid that Jp was going to send in and hr long madonna remix.Digweed doesn't have anything to do with Essential Mix - Digweed is on KISS 100 - Pete Tong hosts Essential Mix on Radio 1 - completely different.Everyone should really check out the broadcast of Danny Rampling's "goodbye" essential mix from Christmas. After 18 years, he is retiring from DJ. He will be missed....great house dj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaveom Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 JP is not known much outside of the tri-state area. That doesnt mean he sucks or vicious is better, its just the way the industry worksThe reason JP is tristate is because outside of Tristate area he doesnt have anything creditable to show for. DJ Mags rated #568 or something in that range does that tell you something? Look at DT for example the guy mostly spins in NYC but hes known around the world for the music he produces. The only reason JP is still in business is thanks to "his cult" that never grew up and did anything creditable with their lives. I mean just look at some of the crowd that follows him. Example 30 year olds that live with parents, barely hold a job, and have nothing going for them but will spend any dime to go see him.Where was JP known before SF? Vicious has a lot more to offer and bring to the table than JP, just judging from his experience, the venues he perfomed in and the records he produced.I mean granted Vicious fell off after dropping his style, but the guy himself is a classic.It's Experience Vs. TrendExperience counts, and i dont think JP has the shoes to fill in like Vicious does or did in his prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klubbernyc Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 ENOUGH SAID! very nice summary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJGaryMatthews Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 where else outside the US has vicious spun?japan and south america pretty regularly that i know of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edubz Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 The reason JP is tristate is because outside of Tristate area he doesnt have anything creditable to show for. DJ Mags rated #568 or something in that range does that tell you something? Look at DT for example the guy mostly spins in NYC but hes known around the world for the music he produces. The only reason JP is still in business is thanks to "his cult" that never grew up and did anything creditable with their lives. I mean just look at some of the crowd that follows him. Example 30 year olds that live with parents, barely hold a job, and have nothing going for them but will spend any dime to go see him.Where was JP known before SF? Vicious has a lot more to offer and bring to the table than JP, just judging from his experience, the venues he perfomed in and the records he produced.I mean granted Vicious fell off after dropping his style, but the guy himself is a classic.It's Experience Vs. TrendExperience counts, and i dont think JP has the shoes to fill in like Vicious does or did in his prime.I think your wrong. for one, none of the old crowd that use to go listen to JP arent even around... I would say a good 80-90% of the people who listen to JP now and go to his shows, are real young, deff not 30 year olds. I am 26 and when I walked by the limelight on halloween I looked at the crowd is was very young, as compared to the Old School Factory heads where it was much older back in the SF days..and its also wrong to generalize a DJ's fans. If your going to say JP fans are degenerates, because thats pretty much were you went, then what are you going to say about the crowd that follows Junior Vasquez?Pound for Pound, to be very honest with you, JP and Vicious production wise I think are neck and neck.... both have their classics, but I dont remember Vicious ever holding a residency for that long, so I am trying to figure out when Vicious prime was???DJ wise, I can't speak, because I never heard Johnny Vicious live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynstam21 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Example 30 year olds that live with parents, barely hold a job, and have nothing going for them but will spend any dime to go see him.That's me!!! BTW, those Ultra Dance CDs by Vicous...suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aystar Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 when did vicious do an essential mix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbull Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 1996 was vicious esential mix, as i stated earlir during the mid 90s jv was a very good groundbreaking producer and had a fantastic name attached to him and a cool record shop on 1st ave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayrays69 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 1996 was vicious esential mix, as i stated earlir during the mid 90s jv was a very good groundbreaking producer and had a fantastic name attached to him and a cool record shop on 1st ave.How bout because JP just plain sucks big Donkey balls, His only fans are the old school factory heads, or the 17-18 year old kids who have never heard any other DJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edubz Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 1996 was vicious esential mix, as i stated earlir during the mid 90s jv was a very good groundbreaking producer and had a fantastic name attached to him and a cool record shop on 1st ave.beyond bass the record shop name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeeker Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 1996 was vicious esential mix, as i stated earlir during the mid 90s jv was a very good groundbreaking producer and had a fantastic name attached to him and a cool record shop on 1st ave.ohhhh, i thought people were saying he had one coming up. i was about to say.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdashowstoppax Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 The reason JP is tristate is because outside of Tristate area he doesnt have anything creditable to show for. DJ Mags rated #568 or something in that range does that tell you something? DJ Mag had JP at 106 this year just for kicks, and you should never ever use DJ Mag as a justification for anything.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 personally id like to see what jp would do with an essential mix... im not saying it would be great, nor garbage but it would be interesting.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaveom Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 DJ Mag had JP at 106 this year just for kicks, and you should never ever use DJ Mag as a justification for anything..thedjlist.com there u go that was one of my sources.as for JP goes...i dont hate him just think hes overrated right here in nyc.....i've been around few places in europe and here in us, and i must say there is a lot more artists that deserve more creditability than JP.it also might be the aspect that the crowd is not educated on good artists or good house music these days and no go see who is booked here in nyc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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