Jesus I totally missed all these conversations. First of all, did I really hear Saleen praise a tiesto track? did someone hijack his user id? Secondly, Im not a druggy with Ephedra! On the contrary, I take it on OCCASSION when I am tired before the gym. Two bottles has lasted me an entire YEAR! As for it being a good club drug...I have thought of that, but never really tried it. I dont really plan to either. But how would you compare taking Ephedra to go out versus, let's say, pills or powder? Im curious how they compare/contrast. Also, does it behoove you for a better effect to still get drunk and take the Ephedra? interesting. and the only reason Ephedra is being banned is because of the Steve Bechler controversy last year...Baltimore pitcher who died at spring training (who was taking double the dosage...amongst lots of other things....he died of heat exhaustion...that Broward County Coroner was gung-ho on killing ther ephedra industry....)