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I like the Tremendo version and this...both have their purposes (one being more minimal than the other). All in all, it's a decent track, and it's certainly familiar, which always helps. Definitely cool to have to throw in the mix but I'm not in love with it.

wow, thanks guys for replying. good to see people still supporting

Al B. Rich remix of Suzanne Smith's "Closer"

Was wondering where you all purchase your dance music these days (vinyl, cd or downloads)... And I am not talking about getting shit for free on soulseek, etc. This is strictly a question for people who really support. Tower, Virgin? Satellite Records? Dancerecords.com? I tunes?

he also played Alter Ego-"Rocker" and a bootleg remix of U2's "Where the Streets Have No Name" (Murk played the same one on the essential mix from Nikki Beach).

Is this kid serious? NO club kiddo. And what they qualify as their "club" or "dance" show is far from it.

That would be because it's NOT RELEASED YET. And not many people have the track b/c the vocals were just slapped on it right before the conference.

not sure about that, but Gian and Kurd Maverick are the same dude though.

They are not trying to "re do" SF or the SF vibe. It's specifically going to be a different place, diff vibe, diff name. Only thing the same about it is going to be the address.

wow...those guys in the second link are nuts!

At first it was April, then May...last I heard it was May but it could be pushed back like someone said. I know their liquor license has gone through, so it's just a matter of logistics at this point. I also heard that as long as things go accordingly (best sound system, good vibe, etc), Erick will be part owner in the club. He's already been asked. I doubt he would do a weekly either, more of a monthly guy it seems. But he will be playing there.

It's funny...I read a interview with him recently where he said when he's in Ibiza or UK he sticks to that older sound u speak of... When he's here he has the "freedom" of going harder... Kinda sounds like he wants to go that way and takes advantage of it here cuz as we all know lotsa ppl are into that here. He def still throws it down properly and hasn't entirely moved away from the chunky funky disco, etc, but he has been getting harder the past couple times I've heard him as well.

Nice! I have two copies of Upstairs at Eric's on LP myself I love Alison Moyet's voice...very deep and soulful. Funny though, when I was younger I always thought it was a guy singing...it wasn't till I got older that I realized it was a girl. As for the industrial bands, I'm not quite sure you can consider them in the new wave category (more dark dance if anything), though they are very much synth inspired as well. I always considered industrial...well, just industrial. If anybody is interested in that though, obviously Ministry and NIN (Pretty Hate Machine is still Trent's best album EVER IMO) are key bands to check out.

Dual CD. I have the Denon D-4000 and that player is pretty much industry standard unless you're going to get fancier with the Pioneer CDJ-1000's, which is not a dual cd player (and which are awesome IMO but more expensive obviously). However, I don't think it matters as long as the quality of the player(s) is there. If you're looking to save space, go with the dual cd. Again names to look for here would be Pioneer, Denon, Numark.

Agreed. Stay away from that brand, Gemini or American DJ. For mixers you want to look at Pioneer, Vestax, Numark or Behringer (I would say Rane or UREI but you're no where near that level price wise). Any of those will do...obviously some are more expensive than others, but you can easily get one of the lower line mixers within those brands to start.

Pioneer tends to be the best quality wise, that is why people are suggesting it (but Numark and Denon are just fine too IMO). Really you can learn on anything, it's all the same concept when it comes down to it. A mixer is a mixer (so long as it's not a Gemini or something ). All you have to do is be able to use whatever mixer or crap equipment is thrown your way at a gig. As long as you can do that, you're set. If this is true I feel sorry for the musically illiterate 90% you speak of. Anybody going into DJ-ing should know a little something about musical theory or at least have a natural knack for it. Otherwise it's only gonna be that much harder. We were just bringing up that learning without the BPM help is something that we see as being more beneficial. I don't think it's a right or wrong issue, we were just giving advice out of experience. But hey, if it's working for you, go with it, different strokes for different folks.

There's actually nothing to be confused about...in fact, you take the counter out of the mix and there is less to worry about and look at while you're mixing. Nobody said he shouldn't take things slow...and sure, he can use a beat counter if he wants. Just saying it's not always going to be there to save the mix--plus, they are not always accurate. Obviously learning from a seasoned DJ and watching others do their thing is going to be the best thing to do if you want to learn technique. As far as being off beat matching-wise? In the beginning, it happens waaay more often than not. It's very frustrating for sure. But that's part of learning how to get it right on in the first place, and that's what's going to help train your ear.

I was just going to add something like that to my post... There are soo many people who learned without the counter. It's definitely not a necessity for a beginners. Relying too much on the beat counter suggests lack of ability and an easy way out. If that becomes your focus, you'll be up shit's creek when you start to play out b/c most places don't have it...even places you think would. If you can't use your ears, you're screwed.

I personally learned without one, cuz when I started the counters didn't come with the mixers. Sure it was harder at first, but I can tell you this, I absolutely NEVER need one now. Even if one is there, I hardly look at it. Knowing songs well from repeated play or practice of course always helps (intros, outros, how long, etc), but memorizing bpm's? Too much thinking going on there IMO.

I know the beat counter helps, but you (or anyone learning) should really learn to spin without it. Hone your ears. Not every club you'll play in will have a mixer with that included.

No. This is the reason why music doesn't sell the way it used to anymore (and more specifically--dance). It's also the reason why the music business is in trouble.

This is true of most music (in every genre)...simple stuff=easier to grasp on to for most, easier to remember for most. It's a matter of the masses not being too complicated.

Exactly...as cool as it is to stay "cool" and "underground", you have to know that sales on tracks like that, that never become "commercial", in the grand scheme of things, don't sell very well (talking more about the US here). It's a matter of keeping your artistic integrity and making hardly any money or letting go a bit and making some money doing something you love. As cheesy as a lot of people think KTU is (not denying it has its moments), the songs they play (whether it be mixshow or not) do get a lot more exposure than the songs they don't play. Don't get scared away by the names that aren't necessarily cool...if they play your track, know that it's getting way more exposure than it ever would in club __x__. Radio reaches a lot of people. It even reaches the people that love dance music but don't know clubbing anymore, or those that never got into the clubbing in the first place.

If a person calls/follows up, of course, telling them you're not interested should be a common courtesy (and lets them know right away). But usually A+R's don't call specifically to tell you they don't like it. They only call to tell you that THEY DO. And a lot of A+R reps are notorious for being "hard to find." hehe. Was merely a disclaimer of sorts

sad but true. that was a significant era, and a great one...unfortunately don't think it will ever be repeated.