highbpm

Damn right - I'm not even from here and I feel at home.

Nice - another ex-pat. I'll be in town tonight so let me know where you're going. Where you from?

Yeah, I have to agree that Manumission, although a little cheesy and touristy, is a sight to be seen. Of course, for curiosity's sake only. I think that Privilige still holds the title of largest club in the world so you have to check it out. Last time I was there (well, last time I can actually recall anything that happened there) a midget dressed as Elvis was 'walking' his 'dog' (skinny guy dressed up in black leather bondage gear) who was biting my ankle while the midget was feeding me peanut butter from a spoon. I shit you not. This place is a trip. I've been to Ibiza six times (while I was still in the UK - too far to travel from here) and, although I promised myself each time I went that I wouldn't go to a Manumission night I always did. It's a laugh. Plus, the promo people shove the bloody flyers down your throat everywhere you go. If I can make any suggestions for anyone feel free to drop me a mail - highbpm@yahoo.com BTW - who's out and about in town tonight? (6/6) Greg P.S. - Crystal Method was right - we Brits crush clubbers from other countries.

I love trance but the hell with vocals - they have no business in anything trancey. But I'm English so I'm biased. BTW - where's the best place to go for some banging trance this evening? I'm coming to the city tonight. Anybody?

Space is superb. Just come out of Amnesia or Pacha or wherever and catch the bus! Great crowd (the true clubbers in Ibiza) and fantastic tunes. Haven't been to Ibiza for a couple of years but whenever I went, this is where you'd find me, either chilling out or still dancing my arse off - depending on the quality if you know what I mean. As I think someone cleared up earlier - it's sort of half outdoors and half indoors. The outdoors was shaded though last time I went by some rattan covering which let through this amazing light from the sun - I always remember the light. Yep, great times. Did anyone go this year? I was still in the U.S. and not back here in the U.K. so I couldn't go. Take care all.

Eric, Really glad that my lot treated you well and that you enjoyed the GC experience! You will probably understand why I miss home a lot now that I am over here! Great news that you liked Turnmills. The Gallery was a regular event for me - love the crowd and the guest DJ line up is always superb. Yep, PVD gets a little crazy - I'm looking forward to his set at Twilo on the 21st - will you be there? Wish I could have been at the GCSS event - it's not far from where I live and all of my friends were there the lucky bastards. So, are you an NY native? Any tips for the best places to go for me to get my 'fix' of Euro trance? Greg

Alexandra's an idiot? You think so? I thought she was pretty nice. In fact, I think this is a view shared by the vast majority of this board and if you pulled your head out of your arse for a minute you may see it too. Contribute constructively and positively because nobody is going to listen to anything else.

You aint from these 'ere parts is you boy!

TAUCHER IS AT WEBSTER HALL?????!!!!!! His sets are hard as nails!!! Oh man, I would love to hear another set from him. He's played Gatecrasher in Sheffield back in the U.K. many a time and I loved every time - well worth a listen. Wish I would have known sooner. Enjoy.

It may be my 1st visit to Vinyl too! Just waiting for an email from Crystal to let me know where and when. Hopefully see you in there!

Anyone want to meet up and then head to Vinyl? Don't know anyone in NYC (let alone the rest of the U.S!) and want to get some sweet NY house first hand? email highbpm@hotmail.com or call (201) 785-1572. Thanks!! Greg

Es Paradis!!!!!!!! Just love that place. The decor is great but it's TOOOOO bright in there (until the morning when they open the roof and that's good). Not sure about the foam parties though! Gotta get back sometime. Enjoy - all of those off to the sunny isle this summer.

Just arrived in the NYC area a few weeks ago from England and I want an NYC education. Seriously, it's been all work work work so far over here with the new job and I REALLY need to get out. I don't know anyone in the area and, having posted a few times to the board you lot seem like the kind of people I'd love to LAAARGE it with! Your generosity will long be remembered and I'm sure international relations between our two countries will improve immensely! ;o) call me at (201) 785-1572 or email me at highbpm@hotmail.com Pleeeeease!! Thanks!! Greg [This message has been edited by highbpm (edited 06-23-2000).]

Club 18-30s??? You must be joking. I have persistently refused to sink to that level and you will see if you read some of my other Ibiza posts on various threads that they are the kind of people that have really spoilt Ibiza for me. I don't understand where my 'bad advice' lays in the previous post. If you'd like to be a little more specific? Better still - why don't you put some advice of your own up here? So, before shooting down my comments and branding me 'tacky' - offer up something we can discuss OK?

Ahh, the eternal question - what type of pills. This is the 'interesting' thing about buying E - it's a gamble, pure and simple, every time. Unless you happen to be close to someone with a direct and reliable source. Say this new brand '313373' really is as good as it's supposed to be. How long do you think it's going to be before every man and his dog start churning out any old pill with that particular logo on it? My point is, nothing stays good for long. It's one of the most sensitive supply and demand situations there is. In the U.K. it was Mitsubishis - they were pure MDMA (and I mean 180mg PURE) to begin with and within two months they weren't worth a shit. Manufacturers jump on the popularity bandwagon and cash in while the demand is still hot. No one brand is better than all the others. The only thing that I can say is to try and pick the lesser of all the evils and buy from the most 'reputable' (for want of a better word) dealer you know of and I'm sure you'll do fine. Good luck. [This message has been edited by highbpm (edited 06-22-2000).]

Nolimit - you talking about "My Soul"?

Got in my car, found an old tape under the seat, threw it in the stereo and out blasted 'Gamemaster' by Lost Tribe! What a tuuuunnnnneee! Was that ever big over here in the US?

Ahhhh...Ibiza. Yep, I love that place. Before I came to the States I went 6 years running. It was a summer addiction I tells ya! Any time is great but the opening and closing parties (early June and early Sept.) are really good. San Antonio is the area that a lot of people converge on but the island is so small that pretty much everything is accessible. If you are going to stay in the San An area then I'd recommend staying in the bay (Bahia de San Antonio) as opposed to the town itself. The accommodation is better, slightly cheaper and it's only a short distance to the centre where you'll find clubs or coaches to take you to any club around the island. Definitely hit Pacha, Amnesia for Paul, and Manumission for examples of what NOT to end up like! Check out: http://www.ibiza-online.com It's got some useful info on the island and particularly accommodation. If you want any more info. post here or email me at highbpm@hotmail.com

Great comment John, I agree with you insofar as the government has a tendency to blow things completely out of proportion. I think that the blame is also partly attributable to the tabloid media. The government is elected by the people for the people right? This being, you have to represent the opinions of the people and, to over simplify the issue, keep them happy because the government wants their votes. Now, regrettably the tabloid media and gutter press have spread so much crap about Ecstasy and it's effects (e.g. "Killer Dance Drug" "Ravers boiling in their own blood" "Orgy Pill" etc. etc. ad nauseum). The media has a lot of power as uninformed (not ignorant) people are susceptible to BELIEVE what they read. Given that, if the government were to re-classify E to a lesser substance grade, the mid-west farmer's family in Indiana would be up in arms that they would reduce the restrictions on such a "satanic poison". Therefore, they are obligated to keep it in the Class A list. Unfortunately people the scene has been set. E has been 'labelled' and without a considerable amount of time and some objective research, it's true colours will not be revealed. However, there is a glimmer of hope. Switzerland recently re-classified E as a soft drug I think - for what it's worth. Long-term effects are still in debate. I'd suggest subscribing to the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) forum. The forum contributors are largely doctors and research scientists involved (sometimes covertly) in the study of MDMA and other psychedelic and psychoactive substances. There's a lot of stuff that flies over my head but it's interesting. I have read some information about the long-term depletion of serotonin through repetitive Ecstasy use also. From what I have read, the authors seemed to suggest that it was not necessarily that the amount of seratonin produced decreases, but the axons in the brain which act as transmitters between synaptic receptors degrade and cannot carry the 'signal' across as well, therefore, leading to depression. It's interesting to hear everyone's 'take' on the subject though as opinions and knowledge about E seem to be varied.

For me it's as simple as the DJ not taking themselves TOO SERIOUSLY!!! I love it when a DJ is just obviously there as 'one of the crowd'. They won't have their heads in a record box all night and they'll throw on some great tunes and laugh with the crowd. Also, I love it when a DJ will throw on some classics. Maybe stuff from a few years back that people instantly recognise. To me it just shows some roots and some history and it's a nod of appreciation. Less attitude, more acceptance, and more fun is what it is all about for me.

OASIS - Mate - if you really don't have anything positive to contribute then don't even bother reading the posts. Not much gets me annoyed but please, if you don't like the topics then maybe you can start some threads that you feel ARE worth discussing instead of mouthing-off at those you don't like. So, as I said, if this level of conversation is beyond your reach then go and contribute (positively!!) to something you can comprehend.

Randy, Yeah, I see your point now. I appreciate that the tests are purely basedon hypotheses and not really relevant to the 'real world' because, as you point out, I'm sure that these tests are performed in controlled environments and they don't wander up to some guy in a club and score a few pills to conduct their test with. You also echo what I have been saying all along - everything in moderation!! If you smoke to much you're going to have problems, similarly if you eat too much chocolate cake. Shit, if you drink too much water you'll die!

Thanks everyone for some very interesting posts. I really hope that a lot more come along. Wow, so much to talk about. I better try and give my 2 pence (I am from England after all) about each comment at a time. Firstly, Pooh was first to bring up the phenomenon that is 'tolerance'. In one respect I think that that's an inherent quality of E - if that factor wasn't there we'd probably all be brown bread by now as it's so fucking good. So yes, you have a limited amount of seratonin and dropping a pill at the weekend has been likened to using a whole week's worth of happiness all at once. So, double-, triple-, and even quadruple-dropping at one time just isn't going to do it. Pooh said some good things. Oh, one thing - the comment about MDE and MDEA - sure they're not as desireable as MDMA but they're both precursors to the real stuff. I take your point that they are deemed to be a little more risky though. Pershoot's right about E not being physically addictive as it's effects are (at least directly) psychological as opposed to physiological. I think we all know that the after-effects of pills truly are physiological though. I'd disagree with the statement that only lonely people take E. Perhaps I'm reading this wrong but I have never really classed myself as a lonely person - I did it for the enlightenment and because, well.. it made me feel damn good - plain and simple. Randy - a bowl of round fellas and a splash of GHB - wow. When's your next party mate? ;o) Freedomtat is on the ball as usual. Definitely clued-up given the comments and some accurate science (Randy take note). When I was at home I used to club with people who would chew 8/10 a night, every Saturday night (more or less) for years. Yep, years. Say that they go clubbing just 30 weekends out of 52 and they drop 10 a weekend (for calculations sake - I have known it to be twice this amount plus other fun stuff). Three hundred pills. Started clubbing with them when we were 17 and left them to come over here when I was 21. Four years. 1200 pills. Sure they are certainly not the at the pinnacle of health but they're not in an institution or on death's door. They lead normal (relatively) balanced lives and have good jobs (hence being able to afford such a vast intake.) Randy again - the science is not flawed in my opinion. There are always going to be claims that are biased one way or the other but I think that the research is largely objective. You really should check out www.ecstasy.org and read 'E is for Ecstasy'. Great book. PFloyd40 - I'm sorry mate but your comment flew right over my head - perhaps I'm dumb or something. Let me know why you think even one is too much - I'd be interested. Personally (shit, I meant to keep this post short), I have taken a great deal of positive experience away from using Ecstasy. I've used it a reasonable amount over the course of the past 7 years and, as I believe Pershoot was saying, you have to pick your moment and keep it in moderation! I certaily don't think that the last pill that I took will be my last. I look forward to more input as for some reason I am really really interested in the American perspective on this - it's great. Thanks all.

This is purely for my interest as was prompted by a previous post about first-time Ecstasy use. How much is too much and how much is keeping it within the realms of moderation? I have read posts about peoples bodies slowing down, memory loss and E-addiction etc. but I would be interested in people's subjective opinion. How many pills of how much time is overdoing it? I'd be interested in the general concensus and then to contrast the U.S. opinion with what I know about the U.K. opinion.

I'm afraid that I have to agree with Nolimit. I know that I am hugely biased by virtue of the fact that I am English but there are very distinct differences between the scene here and the scene back home. Don't get me wrong, I love this place but there truly is nothing like the clubs back home.