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this shit is getting old... ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

sasha john digweed paul van dyk anthony pappa carl cox danny howells danny tenaglia (on guest appearances) deep dish timo maas mauro picotto sven vath steve lawler dave ralph nick warren dave seaman and much, much more... enough reasons for ya??? these dj's outclass any other djs in other nyc clubs. enough said! ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

shadow, looks like we finally agree on something after the "cheese sandwich" post on the twilo board that live renaissance set is phat. his last live performance at twilo in december was one of my all time favorite live sets!!! after pvd november, hee hee. ANTHONY PAPPA - deep, dark ethereal trance. yummy! ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

i think you meant to say sasha... BORING. haha! just kidding. well, he is actually VERY inconsistent. not like the man digweed. trying to be objective as possible here (but in the end, it is still my humble opinion)... PVD - talented producer, remixer, above average mixer, knows how to work a crowd (prolly the best), the best at what he does. some call him cheezy, i don't. love his uplifting and energetic style... music doesn't have to be deep, dark and depressing to be good. enough said! although i loved his last 3 visits to twilo...i will admit, he needs to get some new records. i still love it when he drops his own tracks like another way and tell me why. if you were at the last PVD, you will know that 99.9% of the people loved it as well. you know what i think is even more CHEEZY??? people who go out of their way to criticize other djs *wink* ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

this is one of the stupidest posts i have ever read and i can't even believe i'm replying to it, but... it even rivals "chips ahoy vs. oreos..." BTW - njbiatch. here's a nickle, get a fuckin clue ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

hi zoya yes, i remember you... heehee. i wish i could have hung out with you a bit more, but it was SO packed and i had about 12 other friends there... we'll have to chill more next time as for the "dj" part, you are right. i was referring to the comments of "crackheads, glowstick toting teenie boppers, etc." it's all good though =) will you be at lawler? ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

you're right, you are an idiot... ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

dude, why are YOU always starting shit when someone disagrees with you. in your previous post, you claim everyone should just go out and have fun. it doesnt matter if your a raver, "juicer" (just using the term, but not in a negative way in this case), etc. but you always seem keen on threatening people with violence. i've seen you do this over a dozen times... you tried to pick a fight with me as well... why such negative vibes??? and don't even try to blame the ones that you have started shit with b/c almost everyone on this board knows your the one who typically starts with the threats of violence... peace out ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

dissing other clubs is kinda childish, i agree... but let's be fair here. i've seen a LOT of other people from other clubs diss twilo, typically by people who've never been there... (eg - bad vibe, poor dress code, crackheads, glowstick toting teenyboppers, etc.)... or by people who don't even realize what type of music is even played at twilo and claim... "i don't like trance... i like pumpin' music" not realizing that the dj's rotate and that at any given time, you can have the best trance dj, techno dj, house dj at any given night... anyway, getting back to the point... yes, we all have different tastes in music and clubs so go where it makes you happy. give other clubs a try, maube even a second try if you didn't like it the first time. for me, it took 3 times going before twilo became my home. my first trip to exit was awesome, but every time i've gone after that it became worse... in any event, aren't you dissing people who go to twilo (fridays) right now? you're not just dissing the club, your dissing the people who go there as well... that's worse IMO. just my 2 cents. ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

her name is sharon. definitely a cutey and always very nice and pleasant ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

2000 bmw 328. best handling car i've driven! 2000 porsche boxter. my friend needs a 4 seater right now (my bmw) so i'm driving his phat ride for now... WOOHOO ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

PVD is AWESOME... pretty close to GOD while maybe not the best mixer in the world, his track selection, the way he works the crowd and his uplfting style will always keep me coming back for more... besides, he produces great music and the crowd goes crazy when he spins HIS OWN songs. it's like going to hear your favorite band in concert... you want to here the band's top hits... to all the PVD haters, get over it... it is unmistakable that he is one of the top producers and djs in the world or he wouldn't get the recognition or audience he gets. look at this past friday - PACKED (albeit there were a lot of wannabe's and i've heard about hims there). i love diggers too... he's awesome! but for those who use diggers as a comparison v. PVD, its like comparing apples to oranges. different styles... whether you like one or the other is a matter of personal taste. what some people call "the journey" of S&D is "bubbles breaking (boring) under water until 5:30AM and then the real music comes on" for me. just MHO, or more correctly, my preference. like i said, i love them both (PVD and diggers) but they are just very different. my $0.02. *puts on flame suit* ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

WOW!!! *wiping drool from mouth* when??? tell me! please ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

i finally got through and posted the following. soon thereafter, twiloboss erased his response to blueangel, then posted this schpeel and then closed the thread. i think we're scaring him with threats of outing twilo to magazines and newspapers: "wow twiloboss, that was a pretty shitty and deheartening answer. yes i'm a newbie to this board but i've been going to twilo for quite some time now. in fact, most of the "newbies" that you claim are starting "shit" are all regulars at http://www.clubplanet.com and also are what you call twiloites. please check our screen names here v. the ones on that board and you will realize that many of us have posted hundreds, even thousands of times... especially regarding our love for twilo. my screen name there is k_car, if you need to verify. we are all dissapointed in the manner you have handled this situation. many of us are considering not going to twilo anymore... especially due to the outright rudenss of your staff, especiall the bouncers. i know on nights like pvd you may not miss us at all... but on nights like s&d and others like pappa and deep dish, it's us regulars that fill up at least half of twilo. moreover, as an asian, i have seen and been subjectected to constant harassment by your bouncers, basically for chewing gum. if you notice, asians make up for a good 30-40% of your clientele. and once again, on nights like pvd, it may not matter to you if we don't come. but once again, what about all the other nights when pvd isn't spinning. the club will be quite empty. i would also like you to know that many people on the clubplanet message board (ny) have initiated contact with various magazines and newspapers regarding this and previous incidents. i know your job is to promote the club and spare it from negative press. that is what you have tried to do my squashing (or at least trying to) blueangels post. and yes, she may have not approaced a resolution from you in the neatest of fashions, but she was just trying to make someone from twilo listen. twiloboss - i and many people LOVE twilo! please do something that can bring an amicable close to this and many other prior incidents. first place to start is maybe an apology to blue angel (not the sarcastic one you actually gave her), maybe comps to her and her two friends who were wronged for a year and training for your bouncers on "how to treat their customers." i know exit is no comparison to twilo, but i must say that their staff and bouncers outclass twilo bouncers by light years. just MHO. i have faith in you twiloboss to do the right thing. ps - once again, please check the clubplanet messageboard if you don't believe me. thank you very much for lsitening. sincerely, k_car" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- twiloboss: "here it is again for the last time. no matter what i say you have your opinions and no one is going to change them. twilo has been built on its love of the music and its mission to represent the best in human behavior as it comes forth through the current generation. i cannot speak for each individual's opinions, prejudices, or hatreds. i can speak for twilo, however. it has always been and will always be a place where there are no distinctions between individuals based on anything other than their character. anyone as dedicated to the scene as wholeheartedly as i am could never accept prejudice in any form. it is an unfortunate adjunct in our society that the sins of the few are often seen as the attributes of the many. this is not the case at twilo. whatever happened at twilo to you and your friends on friday nite will be investigated by me personally; all incidents involving the discharging of patrons are reported to management within 30 minutes of the ocurrance. it should be obvious that the drastic security measures we take are the result of pressures outside our control. if any one in your party looked like they were involved in any illegal activity, we must have them immediately removed. guilt or innocence is not the issue; the mere appearance of an impropriety will result in action. you were initially banned from this board by the webmaster because you copied a lengthy rant in more than one location. i am not familiar with your previous pro-twilo posts on other forums; i regret that you have elected to charge racism without first inquiring about twilo's position. there is, after all, 2 sides to every story. i remember at the original sound factory two similar incidents. the first involved the dischage from the premises of a drug dealer who was gay. he went to the gmhc and alleged that sf was anti-gay. its only clientel at the time were gay men. another involved a man in a wheelchair who was arrested on the premises for drug sales. he complained that he was discriminated against because he was disabled. as i said, i believe that you believe you were discriminated against because you are asian. i'm sure you still believe that. i will research the incident reports for friday nite and see what they reveal. apparently other twiloites have vouched for your former loyalty to the club. we all lose in incidents like this. we have lost a good customer; the twiloites have lost a fellow twiloite and you have lost a club that you apparently loved going to." ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

Casey, That is horrible what happened to your friends I tried to get a new user name for the twilo message board, but they never sent me a password so I can post to support... Hmmmnn. I totally blame the bouncers and staff. I know there were some asian drug dealers that got thrown out that night and many more non-dealers/users that were harassed. So many times at Twilo, I was rudely approached by bouncers for giving my friends gum. I would turn to them and show them and say "GUM." Just because a select few cause problems, a whole race shouldn't be put on constant harassment by bouncers... especially if they did nothing wrong... even worse, it appears that they just threw your friends out to get more people in. What a shame... Bottom line is that the staff at Twilo are downright rude. Even bouncers at Exit are 100X nicer... but then again, it's not tough to do. My heart goes out to you ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

i was there to the dying end too it was amazing at the near the end. the club was still packed at 8:30 am... went crazy cheering for an encore (by the way, the encore track was PHAT!)... i never saw such appreciation for a dj by a crowd at twilo... standing ovation. it's funny... he played some awesome new tracks, but the ones that always get me pumped up like no other are his own tracks. every time i heard another way, tell me why, forbidden fruit, etc. i went especaially crazy once again, a shout out to those i met (albeit briefly): Unbound, Orchid21, Mysterious, Bwags, Myrlin, LickMyLips, MattyParsons, J232J?, etc. Hope to see you at Cox/Teneglia ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

HOLY SHIT!!! i had yet, another great time at PVD!!! he is, indeed, GOD. he played some phat tracks... do you guys remember when he brought the roof down at around 7am with "Tell Me Why?" damn, i jumped out of my seat and raised my hands in the air going crazy with EVERYONE else in the club one negative note - after going to twilo so many times, i saw my first fight ever... damn juicers invading twilo and a shout out to all the peeps i finally met - Unbound, Orchid21, Myrlin, Bwags, Mysteriosss, LickMyLips, J232J? and MattyParsons... Did I forget anyone? Sorry I couldn't chill with you guys for long ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

temptkid, while i agree with you to a certain degree regarding the clique mentality of peeps who have met v. peeps who have not met, i'm not not sure if i can agree with you one the comment regarding "everyone ganging up on you (general v. you specific) for no reason." my observation has been is that myrlin (which i only briefly met this past friday) is one of the most reasonable people on this board. while i don't necessarily agree with his boycott stance on allnight23, i can underdtand why he may feel that he should. i have also seen that from time to time, you have physically threatened many paople in the past, just for not agreeing with you, including myself. this comment is not meant to cause drama. the point here is that when people make racist, threatening or any other comment of that nature, those people making those comments tend to be singled out and ostracized. and you are right, i don't know you and you don't know me. maybe one day we will meet and have a couple of drinks and laughs regarding some of the drama on this message board ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

dude, with all due respect, i don't think they are making a twilo/exit debate (although that's the stance roxy is taking)... they are commenting on her stupidity regarding B&T and its connotations to racism (there is none). the fact that she doesn't, nor did she ever know what the fuck she is talking about... ps - both clubs have something to offer for different crowds... i like them both but twilo. IMO is much better. that is all... please, don't take this offensively... none meant to you ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

as usual, you make comments without knowing what the hell you are talking about... 1) B&T = bridge and tunnel... people who do not live in manhattan... you can be of ANY race to be B&T... i'm B&T and i'm not white. 2) yes, the term guido can be considered racist (but usually refers to "juiceheads" in a club context), but noone mentioned the word guido in this thread... until you did. 3) what does "bang bang dressing" have anythin to do with race??? where is the racist comment??? stop stirring up shit without knowing what the heck you are talking about... it's so you to ramble on about nothing... ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

first of all, all i have to say is that PVD was off the hook (although not nearly as good as last nov.). everyone please listen!!! here is my HUMPBLE OPINION on pvd nights and some rudeness involved... basically, it's all the people who usually DO NOT go to Twilo that KILL the vibe. they just go there b/c they have heard of the greatness of PVD, yet they lack PLUR mentality and party/fun atmosphere at twilo. my experience at PVD nights have been great, yet i typically notice a higher share of rude people... these are the wanna be's. in fact, i saw my first ever fight at twilo this friday near the pyramid stairs in the back corner (by the cushy chairs right of the dj boooth). they were obviously not regulurs... they were juicers who typically frequent other types of clubs but they were in full effect for PVD. a fight at twilo??? i couldn't believe it!!! anyway, the bottom line is that the negative vibe is not associated with any one type of race, culture etc. it's all the fuckin' "invaders" as i would call them (of course some of them are cool) and not "asians" or "polish' or any other specific race that kill the vibe. btw - i had a great time with my crew anyway... my ALL asian crowd mingled nicely with people of all races... even when other guys tried to hit on our girls, we just made friends, not fights... either that, or our girls politely declined the guy... that's what it is about.... RESPECT... although i admit, our girls got a little annoyed (as did i) when the guys kept on pestering our girls just my $0.02 ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

i'll be there with my whole crew by 11PM. it will be nice to finally meet you ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

i read the whole thread. my humble assessment: it started out as a simple answer by both gravity and nycedee. gravity started to provoke nycedee b/c dee's opinions differed. general insults were exchanged (e.g. - low life, loser, dumbass, etc.). drama, but still not too offensive, just 2 peeps duking it out. then gravity throws in a racial slur... that's when the shit hits the fan. gravity - don't you get it??? dissing each other in generalities, no matter how rude, can be accepted (i guess in a pissing match) but you went over the line with the racial slur. you are wrong. everyone else agrees. noone is following anybody in terms of jumping on a bandwagon. you basically brought this upon yourself. with every post you look worse and worse... verdict: gravity = racial prick moral: gravity has made himself look like the perpetual fool by continuing his ignorant posts. advice: stop while you're behind just my $0.02 ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

wow! the whole board went *ka-put* anyone else out there??? HHHELLLOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************

you are truly an idiot. if you're as intelligent as you think you are, then you would recognize the difference between calling someone an asshole and a racist slur. most people can brush off the asshole comment... as far as the racial stuff, it hits most people a lot deeper b/c many terrible things have happened to people just based on race... you just don't get it do you. i know you're trying to backpedal with this "freedom of speech stance" and "true colors of people coming out" bullshit, but you just keep on digging yourself into a bigger hole. first the hindus, now the chinks... who's next??? looks like YOUR true colors have come out. why don't you sincerely apologize or STFU!!! ------------------ ************************* "Strangers are just friends waiting to happen." - Old Sage Twilo *************************