well, kittn, i can't help you with your underage friend, but you MUST go to spundae. i mostly go to spundae, red, and giant and liquified's events, and i have to say that spundae is my very favorite place. the vibe is unmatched anywhere i've ever been; it's incredibly friendly, unsuperficial, and just plain fun. everyone's there to have fun, whether that means chilling out on the big-ass patio to sit at tables and eat or just stand around and smoke, or to dance your ass off at the never oversold, but always full dancefloor. and there are great djs there, consistently. you simply can't dismiss l.a. nightlife - or even judge it at all - without going to spundae .