kross921: you must go to spundae!!! it pulls in the best talent - on a regular basis - of all the clubs up here. www.spundae.com i love spundae. the vibe is really laid-back, unpretentious, really "do what you wanna." the patio outside is a great break from the inside; it's big, and has tables, chairs, and benches. there's always enough room to hear your own conversation and not be bothered by anyone else's smoke . the staff is incredibly friendly (the guy at the door hugs just about everybody) and that has a big effect on everyone, i think. l.a. is the first town i've seen that has clubs that actually respect their patrons. i pretty much only go to spundae (at circus on saturdays), red (at arena on fridays - www.nexxez.com )*, or random nights like howells' upcoming night on friday at the palace. the one major problem i have with red is that there's only one room (albeit a huge one), so if you're not into the music, you don't have a second choice . but come up here and check it all out ! *circus and arena are in the same lot and share the same address: 6655 santa monica blvd.