i was gonna bring that up! that guy was sickening . linabina, even you must concede that most virgins aren't just "technical virgins" - meaning ones who'll do just about everything else, as long as they don't have penile-vaginal intercourse.i'm not passing judgment at all on this, but i don't understand why someone would do all kinds of making out type things (kissing, touching, etc.), oral, and anal sex, but would not have penile-vaginal sex, just to preserve his/her "virginity." that just seems like a technicality that really doesn't count, to me. webster's defines "virgin" as "an absolutely chaste young woman," and defines "chaste" as "innocent of unlawful sexual intercourse." "intercourse" is then defined as "physical sexual contact between individuals that involves the genitalia of at least one person." oral sex is still illegal in many states, technically devirginizing many people who've only had oral sex. i don't agree with that, but i don't get the "i'll do everything but that" idea. if the notion is that you're not to give your body to someone till marriage, the penis meeting the vagina is just one small part of the activity. if you give everything else but that to someone before marriage, i don't see how that's not giving almost all of your body away.