Both years AMAZING time. The NYE 2003 party was named by us the best party of the year. And last year was just as good. Hard to explain in words why it was so good but I will try. And no, not too packed AT all. a) The music - great. And the outside - very cutting edge. Really have NEVER heard that sound (all though its not underground at all) at any major or underground party here. The small rooms great too. The people. OMG. I switched from (basically a rave setting) to go to this the following year hoping to replicate a place where people would turn to you at 12:01 and say "whats ur name? Have a great year." This place did it. Met tons of people that drove from Colorado just to party here c) The village is really great. Different, fun, fresh d) The food -REALLY GOOD LOL. OMG we were shocked. e) The drinks - crap but what do you expect. Last year I cant rememebr what my ex and I did for drinks. The previous year me and my (other) ex bascially hustled the vip door and got in our party of 10 into the free vodka area . Junk really. Smart and Final vodka and ralphs orange juice, that bad. Overall, if you dont like a) to party around people under 24, dont go to this (cuz some people have a issue with that) dont like a rave-dressed environment, dont go to this (I still have the bracellet "ALLEY CAT" gave to me when I arrived). c) want apple martinis and see Nick and Jessica, not the right scene. Otherwise, go go go. Its really wonderful.