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Originally posted by mrmovement33
i remember those beautiful g-strings. and those 19 year old girls...bring this event back to the beach please. you just bring ur beach chair and your joint and smoke and chill. then all these young girls in bikinis come and give you a shoulder massage. this is great.
YEAH!!!.........BRING ULTRA BACK TO THE BEACH!!!!!!
WMC and Ultra ....... are synonimous of the beach...... of bikinis....... of G-strings..... of very, very happy DJs
Bayfront is synonimous of a rave .... of glow sticks ..... of ODs ......
Ultra is a party for the world industry....... we deserve to party as grown-ups.........
With a beach party ....... not even Ultra in NYC will compare to ours ........ we are f***in' Miami...........
Bayfront is the same as any other venue......on any coast.... call it New Orleans...... Mississippi ......... or Texas ........
WMC would never leave Miami if Ultra is held at our beach ...... I would sign that .........
Cops are a hassle at Bayfront ........ only because it is not 21+......
At the beach cops are a little more accostumed ..... it is already a 21+ city...........
Make it 21+ ........ and have strippers!!
Don't tell me that because of Space...... Ultra would stay at Bayfront ........
Throw an unoffical Ultra post party at MAZE....... call it: "The Unoffcial Ultra Post Party at MAZE Feat. Balance Promote Group":D
Have Sasha and Digweed tear that place apart ........ and have Naked on the Beach Sunday at Nikkis!!! ...........
A. O. wants the beach!!!! ........ me too:eek:
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Double post:D
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I just got home.........finally:rolleyes:
WTF...... trying to call U and your cel is temp out of service!!..... pay your bills bro!!!!!
Call me on the new cel number:hat:
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Originally posted by crosspatrick
Good call by me now all i need is some bookie to start taking bets on football.
I reckon.......great call.........
But the one making the $$ today .......... has to be Dudek ......did he bet for Man U??
...... WTF!!...... what a blooper!!...... no wonder in the US....... they make so much fun of the polish .......What Barthez did to Man U last season ...... Dudek is doing to Liverpool ....... three games in a row now ........ and Barthez this time was the saviour .........
IMO..... wide open title race...... if ManU can beat Arsenal ...... and Chelsea doesn't fuck up .........
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I've never loved U so much........
I haven't slept.... thinking of U........ el Nuevo Gasometro ....... can't tolerate those Red Devils.........
You are the judge ....... that can bring justice .........
I love U San Loren....... don't put me down ...... San Loren...... San Loren...........
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Originally posted by corinto
Well, alot of DJs over here have a fanbase...
Edgar V and Oscar G seem to have the most loyal fans...
Bellini also has a big group of followers:confused:
Peace.
I would add:
Stryke...... serious following by the industry
DHM..... four years of strong following
Mono Henao and Chris Duque..... nice break thru this year
Roland..... the Prince of Space
Eddie X ..... in the gay community especially
and a few more that escape my head............
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Originally posted by saleen351
vipnerd, bro, you seem like a cool cat, but can you please type your posts in MS Word then cut and paste them into clubplanet...
:laugh: Thank U...... fell the same way......
Sorry for the writing style...... my colloege teachers used to bitch at me too......... at least its readable..... is it??
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Originally posted by milano
Natasha, my Russian friend from last night was felling "tired" from last night's "party".
It was midnight and my plan was to hit Crobar and Space for cooljunkie's 2nd Birthday. Instead, I don't know why I suggested to try first Lola, for Dirty Funky Little Thing's classic weekly. I haven't been there in like a month, maybe that's why I shot the suggestion. To my surprise, Natasha got "excited", I knew right away this night could be even better than last, now that we know each other a little better.
We get in Lola just in time to use my two passes this guy gave me earlier this afternoon. Saved the $10 the entrance would have cost, and were in for a treat like few nights can give you in SOBE in the past few months.
The place wasn't packed yet, but the energy could feel building. Music was still in its lower tone, all three of the DHM crew in the DJ booth, as if waiting to launch an attack on Saddam or something close to it.
Natasha was instantly curious of the booth ( I think she knows one of the DJs without the Irish accent). Anyhow, while waiting to be served by that hot blond (never can remember her name, I'll call her Michelle because there is something of Montana's girl on her) I spot who else but Joe Budious. Dancing as if he never had danced before. Surrounded by three sweeties, two together, the other alone. I could tell Joe had no idea of what was going on behind him. Had I known him better I would had let him know. But hell, let him know now, that way he is a little more aware of the chicks after him every Saturday.
The night kept flowing smoothly, music building perfectly, deep jazzy brazilian influence that would build up, and suddenly take you into a disco funky deep house, kind of reminding me the good old Miguel Migs. The dancefloor was getting really packed by then. This rasta/househead dude just going insane, alone in one corner, two hotties clapping at his moves and he not even noticing. JUST BE?? Hell yeah!
I bumped to a few friends after a little while. Lorena, Carla and Jocelyn. You girls are so fucking hot!. BTW I liked the astonished look of Carla when she saw Natasha. At the same spot I bump with Marco, from PMS, and Fabio, owner of Contesta (one of the few Roma tifossi I respect and feel for, sorry for Wednesday:D )
As I introduced Natasha to both of them, the conversation gradually disappeared, and we were carried away by the music, as most of the people near us were. I mentioned to Marco what a good vibeful tune it was. He wasn't completely sure of the song and went to the DJ booth to consult with Edwin (the MF Natasha knows).
That was the turning point of the night. When Edwin dropped "I Can't Wait" - King Britt, the party just went in a journey of vibe, smiles and dancing pros (i know Mr. Budious you call it enthusiasts, but those guys tonight were more than just enthusists IMHO:eek: )
As the night kept buiding up, the dancefloor had at least three turnarounds. Like only five star restaurants could ever have. 3 am was pushing for more than I had planned, but I can only blame DHM for that. I was grabbed by Natasha and almost dragged out. Who has ever been with a Russian can say they are cold blooded. Total BS!
I call a cab to go home and in the way down home a couple friends call me and beg me to stop by Crobar. Natasha looked at me as if she would either slap me or give it to me right there. Good real state persuassion gave me the tools to stop at Crobar. Planning to stay briefly, I walked in like at home thanks to my hottie Trisa. Once in, the energy felt weird. Place was packed, hands going in the air, but what could had been? Fucking music, 93.1 Saturday afternoon ( I had wished it was Sat, night at Space!). I had completely forgotten it was the french moron on the decks. After four commecialized anthems I thought to myself, WTF am I doing here with this hot blondie wanting to leave and listening to the lamest music Crobar has ever fed me with?
No matter what , Lola gave me the purest vibe of the week, fashionably simple beautiful girls. Crobar gave me the boot, thanks to the "hottest DJ in the world". Are these guys who run Crobar doing to many drugs lately???
Thank you Joe and Thomas for working so hard to give SOBE an awesome get away. You guys and the host at the door are some of the coolest people in the industry.
Well I got to go, Natasha is calling me to the Jah-QZ!!
Sleep tight!!!!!!!!!!! And don't hate meeeeeeeeee!!!!!
Nice review.......wished to have been in town:( ..... I mean for Lola.....not Crobar:eek:
DHM are the true legends of deep house in Miami...... from warehouse parties.... to Blue.... to Rain.... to Lola..... to Space ...... hands down to them:)
And Joe and his partner Thomas....... great work ..... better people
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Originally posted by saleen351
just a FYI
the new single is comming out,
the old one just had the 3 orignial mixes
the new one has styrkes mix, and 3 other mixes. i forgot which mixes, so stryke or og post which mixes....
i'm buying it just for stykes mix..
Nice stuff....
BTW..........Funketeer......... wake and bake again???
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Originally posted by dakotalynn
just wanted to add a little info regarding Maze. Markus Schulz is the friday night resident. He is working closely with the management regarding the upcoming guest dj bokings. Armin Van Buuren was a great choice for them for next week. After all he just got the #5 spot on DJ Mag's top 100.
Maze is working with Balance regarding booking their djs. After all, it was Sasha and the rest of the Balance staff that suggested to Maze they hire Markus as the resident.
Who else would you all like to see booked? This is a great opportunity to get your ideas out there so we can get working on them....
BTW, yesterday someone mentioned "Cocoon"....did you hear RIchie Hawtin and Sven Vath on the radio show last week? We tried to get them in to Maze for their tour, but they only had 5 dates and they were booked....they will let Maze know when they start planning the next tour.
Wow.........Balance is on the talks?.......not surprised.........Crobar went the commercial way + Subliminal........
Now......send Sasha a promo of Ariel........Fedex it......it's worth his time.....and your money.....
As James954 implied.....get some top DJs going early on.....let the clubbers know your place early........you've stepped in the luckiest time........
Miami had become a monopoly for nitelife.......'cause Level wasn't a player a long time ago.........two entities controlling a market is a monopoly.......and Kenny and Louis enjoyed it for quite too long.....and a monopoly only brings injustice to those left out......where are all of our local DJs that have a drag?.......proven drag?????.........
I can hear already........loudly.....Digweed......Deep Dish (plis not feat. Ali or Sharam, both!)........Nick Warren .....Tyrant?? ....... Picotto..... Zabiela...... Jimmy VM ........ Parks & Wilson..... give a residency to Howells......... you guys know better than I .....just by the way you build up your place......
I wish you the best of lucks........ breaking a monopoly is not the easiest task.... you guys got it going in the right direction...... don't feel shy...... MUSIC IS THE ANSWER... TO YOUR PROBLEMS...
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Originally posted by pod
The permits are for weekends only...Sasha came on a Monday, he woulda had to call it at 5 AM regardless...
The permits must not be cost-effective for a club unless there's a special reason...i.e. if they're open 2 more hours, thats a few more bucks the club has to dish out for cops, security, DJs, bartenders, electricity, etc...i.e. they expect a return on their permit...
I'm starting to think clubs down here need to hire a Financial Analyst to run their operation.........
Forget Sasha.......I know he came Monday........lets say Timo Maas....for the 800+ days of Crobar........the place was packed.....flying packed.......
Everyone knew they would close at 5 am.........so most clubbers by 4:33 (I'm being sarcastically exact now) bought their last drink...'cause 22 minutes later......back to reality on Washington Ave........
Now.......had the club been open 'til 7 am........no earlier that 6 am would people stopped drinking........adding all the costs you mentioned........I can't see 1 1/2 more hours of solid sales at the bar couldn't outweight their expenses.......that's like 50% the peak time of most clubs down here (1:30 - 4:30)
The promotional impact of having the club close at 7 am......adding a top flight DJ.......would increase the number of goers......funnel in some of the people partying at other clubs in SOBE......
IMO.......7 am would hold most of the people that go past 5 am to downtown.........
It's tough for me to believe this permitt can be bought and that not once it has been used..........are you sure??
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Originally posted by saleen351
oh i forgot, no stephan at the door,,,, woooooohooooooooooo
though he has improoved of late..
:eek: Anyone could improve from where he was at:rolleyes: One thing is to have a french working the door at Opium.......another thing to have a french spin every nite at Crobar.....but that "pocket bottle" thinks he is a 1.5 lt. .......
I'm tired of him trying sooooooo hard to be my friend:blown:
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Originally posted by pod
Clubs on the beach can get a special permit anytime they want to to stay open till 7 AM. It's not a 'permanent' permit, it's a one time thing, i.e. in theory, Maze, crobar, Spin, or Level could stay open until 7 AM any time they wanted to, they just have to go to City Hall and pony up the fee for a special extension on their permits.
Really??
.....anytime they want???? .....You mean that for example......Crobar the day of Sasha could had bought a permitt to extend his set 'til 7 am??? WTF are they thinking then:mad: ........how much could this permitt be??......could cooljunkie educate us thru your contacts???......Pleeeeeeeeease!!!..........I was under the understanding the 7 am thing was only on long weekends/special holidays.......
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I think Maze may put the hurt on all clubs as far as alcohol sales are concerned..Bud Light is $4.00, Corona is $5.00, mixed drinks are no more than $7 or $8. Maze also posts their pricing for drinks near each bar, to combat fraud...i.e. a bartender can't overcharge you arbitrarily. So, a strict pricing policy, and lower drink prices will get people to go certainly.
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Simply smart.......and customer friendly.........bartenders tend to suck.........and abuse............props to MAZE.......
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Apparently, Maze had a helluva crowd this morning though for their circuit party event, something on the order of 1,200-1,400 people showed up....
The trick is, getting a mixed crowd to go there on Fridays, because people will start to say Maze in the same breath as Twist or Score....
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This is less of a threat than what you might think........the voluntary segregation of "straight" and "curved":D only hurts the party.......in other words, as long as you know what you are......simply BE YOURSELF.........
Based on the new movie posted by GA2 this morning..."Escape from SOBE".......and the amount of innecessary material roaming Washington Ave..........we indeed are starting to look like NYC.....and there is where MAZE would fit.......a place packed with a mixed crowd.......w/great sound and lites........w/top DJs........
Am I still in the same SOBE of last week????
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Originally posted by james954
bump!
Bump....bump!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by milano
I should assume that your point is to tell me there are strong teams left in the Champions, duh! It's the Champions league.
We have a strong team, good reserve, and a team that is the base of last years + Rivaldo. IMO, that makes us stronger than last year.
Forza Milan!!!!
I'm gonna give U one you'll like........Redondo is back w/the team after 2 years injured......and says he feels like when his debut....he's in Ancelotti's list for this weekend.....
The Spanish media.......AS director......has praised your team.....so far away from most Italian teams......now don't get too cocky.....I insist it's a long way before the fat lady......
On the other hand.....the Madrid press......still hurt because they haven't scored a goal in four games.....and have to play Olimpia on Tuesday......have emphasized.....in an attack to the clean sheet of Barza......that Overmars goal.....against Leverkusen.....is valued at $4 million.....'cause in two and a half years at Barza......and because all the injuries he went thru.......Overmars has only scored his tenth goal with Barza........and since they paid $40 million for him........each goal is an average of $4 million....now......that is being really "losers"......
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Originally posted by saleen351
pod the radio said maze is open till 7am... WTF is up with that? is that true?
ps the big fat dude was much better then the piece of glass pertecting the sound system boards..
SOBE clubs are open this Friday and Saturday 'til 7 am, like in Memorial, 4th of July, Labor, and New Years......
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Originally posted by saleen351
A few more things about maze that i forgot:
When you walk in, they have this long hall way you go down, well right above your head they have this walk way with people dancing above you, its kinda cool.
to the right there is a kick ass lounge/vip area/section of the club, done up really nicely... should be phat for a private party, but your still only 15 feet to the dance floor. They have phat seats all over.
There is a catwalk around the entire dance floor, so you can look down and see the entire club. The two other rooms are upstairs. One is probably the size of the vip part of the main room at space..
The other looks very vipish with leather seats, and much smaller, maybe the size of RED in sobe.
Place is clean, real clean, and real plain, just done up perfect. They have tvs all over, but i didn't see them on. i'm suggesting they play porn movies:eek:
if that place gets packed, there probably gonna be a problem getting drinks. There really isn't much bar space.. Well there is , but there isn't.. You'll have to see it for yourself..With a vibe and crowd, and NO TRANCE, i think they will do fine. Soooooooooooooooooo easy to get to, take alton off 195 east, right to 18th street, and you are there..
I was really impressed with their staff...
I'll see what i can do for cp list or someshit, cause like i said, 20 bones is a little too much if they want to get serious, they better lower the prices for at least a couple weeks..
IMO with good promoters and good talent, they should and will own fridays south of lauderdale.... That includes space and spin, crobar and level...
Fantastically written.......I can see a hotel being remodeled at Wahington and 12th:( .....which means.....get f***ing Ariel as resident, at Maze, ASAP!
This move alone would reinvent the whole nite life scene South of Lauderdale......as U said..........
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Originally posted by pod
The only VIP @ Maze is the one near the side bar...upstairs is wide open from what I could see.
Like I said in the other thread, the Funktion One array is amazing. Fantastic low end, almost zero distortion on the mids, and a good HF sound, make this one a winner in my book.
Lighting is out of hand, great array in there!
What I like about Maze is, that it is still on the beach, but not subject to that beach attitude. The ghetto thugs cannot go back that far, they have to cut across an intervening residential area to get to it, good luck, there's probably about 20 cops along the way with nothing better to do but beat the shit outta ya or impound your Escalade...the snooty VIP crowd may go back there, just for sanctuary. Frankly I hope they do. They spend money...
Maze also has a 'quiet room' of sorts, with the music on at a low volume...great for relaxation...
Overall, the opening night seemed like a 'beta-test' to me, they probably had to open because BT was scheduled and they didn't want to break his contract. I think next week is gonna be tops, with Armin Van Buren...
The crowds were thin, yes, but the people there were the 'right' people. Local DJs, a clubowner or two, record-label people, a gaggle of technically-oriented people, and various promoters were in attendance, with some good ideas on their minds. If even one or two of them come to fruition, Maze may just pose a serious threat to the superclub dominance of crobar and Level. Don't get me wrong, I like crobar and Level, but I want something different. I'm sick and tired of seeing my favorite DJs at only crobar. crobar's getting a bit played out. They need to reinvent themselves...It's why I was glad to see Lawler at Space...change of environment. I'd love to see someone like Satoshi take to the decks at Maze, or perhaps Digweed, or some of the other Balance DJs.
:clap2: U just gave me breath again........Digweed at Maze??.....with the goodies U described they bought ???........"from your mouth to God's ears!"........
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Originally posted by pod
vipnerd, what are you talking about? Space has a 24 hour permit...
mobile truss is cool
I meant.....what did I mean?.....Ohhh!......that between 1 and 5 is when the most alcohol is served......the afterhours people do drink.......but more water kindda.........
In other words.......if Maze could take away people 'til 4/5.....they would certainly hurt Space:( .......
But....you see them hurting more Space......on a Friday??.....or Crobar and/or Spin.......on a Friday.........I agree with Saleen that there is the same amount of demand (clubbers).....low nowadays anyhow....and more supply (clubs)...........
Just curious......'cause I missed Maze last night!.....
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Originally posted by saleen351
1. the djs didn't really get going by 1am when we left
2. crowd was ok, some cuties up in there, nice mix, about 200 people at 1am or so.
3.probably 5% capacity
4.not sure, they gave us free shots...
5. the other rooms were ok, kinda loungey, i think one of them is closed off to vip, but the other looks like its open to the public..
WTF!!......if they had only 5% capacity by 1 am, on a Thanksgiving weekend w/White Party week included......they have to do some serious, serious promoting........
And I'm saying this because on the opening of any "serious" club....... there is normally a line around the corner!
Now I'm really worried for them!
Did anyone stay until 3 or 4??...... did they get their dancefloor going????
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Originally posted by cooljunkie
Hey guys,
We'll be celebrating 2 years of CoolJunkie at Space tonight with Michael Louis, Oscar G, Craig Demo, and Roland. PM us or go to CoolJunkie.com for comp entry / open bar.
Be prepared for messiness!
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Originally posted by pod
The place has potential. I don't see it as competition to Space, as many people are classifying it as. Instead, I see it as "Let's go to Maze first, then hit Space around 4-5 am..."
Would that mean.......Space will give up its liquor license......and solely sell water????
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Originally posted by pod
Girls are such clones on the scene..
Any of you venturing to Global Gathering or whatever it's called can see this exact scene.
:laugh: PLOP!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by saleen351
WE got to Maze at 10pm. They were not ready and the alarm was going off, the dj was locked outside, and it was kinda like there was no major club there, just 30 people standing next to a building. Anyways at 1030 or so we get in. Place is really nice, but not faggot nice. Its a real club. Its not so much of a look at me place. Sound system is pumping and clear. Best i've heard. It is crystal clear. Stryke was telling me you have to break in a system, so it might get even better.
Layout is nice, place is big and just plain clean and simple, just the way i like it. We left at 1am to go to space but you can tell it has the potential. Lights are nice, but at the time it was a little too bright by the bar for my taste, but like i said we left at 1am when BT was comming on. By the way BT goes down as the dj with the worst hair cut in the industry. I think maze will have some problems with the booth. Its too easy for patrons to lean over into it, or yell shit like "play some fucking guido anthems" or just plain drop a drink in there. They should get some plexieglass.
Me and hog took a tour of the place and since hog is in the construction biz, he pointed out all the violations. So i pointed one out. By the speaker stack by the bar, a piece sticks out about 6 feet off the floor. Hog is like "some one is gonna wack their head on there". As soon as he said it, some dude came 2 inches from splitting his head open.
If nothing else you guys should go to hear the system.. Staff was nice and polite, i'm not loving the bathroom situation, they had a oppurtunity to make it like the my fav club bathroom, which is Shampoo in philly. If you ever have been there, you know how cool it is. Any ways, the bathroom is kinda far from the action and you have to fight traffic from the people entering the club to get to it. Its by far the best club on the beach. Hands down. With that being said, I"m not saying it will do the best either. More on that later..
So we leave and get to space, we walk right in, pay 30 mother fucking dollars, which i'm not pissed it was picotto, but i knew all week there was gonna be a problem with the list, so thats why I posted on here, for yous just to pay and not worry about it. The space staff, and managment are just clueless fucks. 5 Hours before MP goes on a space employee posted it was a mess up.. Seriously, did any of the space staff go to college? Did they ever hold a real job? If you did the shit they do, and worked for a real company, they would be fired in 4 days flat.. Koky, you should have known, and you should of had the door guy kick you square in the balls, cause thats what space does week in and week out. LET ME GUESS LP IS GONNA BLAME ANOTHER ROGUE PROMOTER FOR THIS SLIP UP... Its pathetic and space has no respect for anyone.. Hence why i'm in semi retirement and hence why i told every one to book spaces djs in lauderdale, so i don't have to deal with their bullshit. I mean i feel bad, i rip these guys and people like biz, roland, og who have nothing to do with the BS get caught in the cross fire, and its not funny, since this is how they take care of them selves and their familes. So to those guys i'm sorry, but i have to be objective, and i have to voice my true feelings, its my money and my time.
Well picotto was sick. Nothing else to say about the music, it was typical #1 dj in the world music... Why isn't he a quarter resident??? But yet they book fucking lawler...
Hog is right, there might have been only 25 girls there over the age of 21.. Maybe 100 girls under 21. That place is in serious trouble if they think with no chicks people will still come.
Though the bartenders, were smiling, and dancing and served me drinks nice and fast, and even got a few thank yous when i tipped them. Could the saleen, space and spin bashing helped? We will never know.
All in all I had a blast. Its picotto for gods sake. Though LP tossing down trance sucked. Why didn't roland spin after MP?
Now for the club scene with the addition of maze:
I just don't see the clubs in sobe have anywhere near the crowds they need to pull it off. I'm really thinking there needs to be a club closeing to take place to really help out the scene. Maze is so far away from the "south beach scene" that i'm kinda worried, yet its far away that it's "real" club. Is it too far off the beaten path? It might be, yet that could lure some local folk in. I'm sure their gay sat party will do fine. But with space trying to reinvent its fridays, which in my opinion is not gonna happen, and spin trying to figure out their drink prices still, could maze step up? I think so, yet I don't think so.
I really like the club, its the best on the beach, but it seems to me the beach likes hype not fact. So maze needs to really do some hard promoting work. And 20 bones at the door is not gonna help... Though 4 mother fucking dollar beers will bring me back..
:eek: Like i said there is simply not enough people to fill the clubs down here. I really dont' see how space is gonna fill a club twice the size when they can't fill it now? Yea i know the new club and all of that bs, but the allure will end, and the crowds will go home. Plus word is space is not ready for new years, and if they do get it open, it will not be done..
Throw lauderdale in the mix, and we got an ole club war starting. Maze needs a local like stryke to take the decks at 3am or so. On the radio it said it was open till 7am, can anyone confirm this?
I know one thing, lauderdale has the crowds, money, and hot nice females to pull off something special. Whereas miami and sobe don't. Plus more clubs are comming in downtown miami. I'm not sure how these club owners sleep at night. I'd be worried all the time.
ANY TRANCE IS TOO MUCH TRANCE...
ANY PICOTTO IS NOT ENOUGH PICOTTO...
i forgot one thing, when I posted that something on the space flyer was odd, I was right. I Saw you leave the booth last night, are you back at space?
Wow, what a pair of reviews!................
Questions about Maze:
1) How was Bill Hamel
2) How was the crowd
3) What % of capacity did they have at 1 am??
4) What were their vodka/whiskey prices ( if U asked)
5) Did U check the other rooms?? Were they accesible to the mainfloor clubbers??
Thanx...........
...... WTF!!...... what a blooper!!...... no wonder in the US....... they make so much fun of the polish .......
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San Loren........San Loren
in Miami
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Are you crying because you barely earned a tie???
I hoped San Lorenzo would had done something...... we ended up second place ...... and I'm sure we would kill them in an extra game....
I'll answer you more tomorrow...... I'm beat of driving 4 hours..