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This is just funny
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This is the same guy that said drug addicts should be locked up
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Originally posted by igloo
What the fuck are you talking about?....PLease tell me you were able to comprehend my statement.....please ....because your statement above demonstrates differently
Who the fuck is talking about "stooping to their levels"....what the fuck are you talking about?
No shit we are not Saudi Arabia...No shit we are America....No shit we hold ourselves to a higher standard.....what is your point?
My point was simple--and I will restate in simpler terms....Too bad the Islamic community and theri top levels do not react to their bad elements with the same condemnation as Raver did ...
Got it?
Do you get off cursing at and trying to bash people over a message board? I interpreted what you said the wrong way you really need to calm yourself.
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Originally posted by igloo
I wish Muslims and Arab Governments and Islamic clerics would act with the same passion and conviction as you towards their own mosques, institutions, and religious leaders that preach the same hate and call to violence and the death of America and Israel
We are not Saudi Arabia nor any other Arab government, we are America. We should and do hold ourselves to a higher level than these countries. To stoop to their level and justifying it by the actions of others is wrong.
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that whole conflict is a lost cause
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Another polite and mature response from igloo
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I dont know why someone should commit suicide on stage and how that is "dignifiying" but i definately dont believe in the illegality of suicide why should someone not be legally allowed to kill themselves?
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Canadian gay married couple denied entry to US
2 hours, 42 minutes ago
MONTREAL (AFP) - The United States denied entry to Canada's first legally married gay couple because they had filled out a single customs form as a family, Canada's foreign ministry said.
AFP/File Photo
A US customs official at Toronto Pearson International Airport denied entry to Kevin Bourassa and Joe Varnell, CBC television said.
They are the couple whose case led an Ontario court to recognize gay marriage in June.
The customs agent denied them entry as a family because the United States does not recognize same-sex marriage. The United States allows all members of a family to use the same form.
The two men refused to fill out separate forms and canceled their trip to Braselton, Georgia, where they were due to participate in a human rights conference.
Doug Elliott, a lawyer for the couple, told the CBC he was considering legal action against the Canadian and US governments.
"A law in Canada does not have extra-territorial application. Each country is free to impose conditions of entry to its territory," foreign ministry spokesman Reynold Doiron said.
Varnell and Bourrassa celebrated their union in January 2001 in Toronto, a few weeks after the Netherlands enacted a law allowing gay marriage. They won their legal battle to have their relationship legally recognized as marriage in the province of Ontario.
A court in British Columbia followed soon afterward.
Canada's federal government is considering legislation that would recognize same-sex marriage throughout the country
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When u say al-queda connections, the majority of the country takes it as 9/11 connections. Yes of course you can pull a Bill-Clinton style "no sexual relations" perspective on it and say he never directly said it but the fact is most people took it as Saddam had involvement in 9/11.
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whos attacking anyone? I agree with you and have pointed it out in that past that the personal attacks aren't necessary butexpressing disagreement towards someones viewpoint isnt an attack.
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Originally posted by cintron
An important lesson from 9/11.
People are going to always look for a fight, no matter how many Terrorists you kill, treaties you sign or foreign countries you try to placate.
Someone always wants to be king of the mountain, or at least shove the guy off whom they percieve to be sitting on top.
It works for messageboards too. Look at all the colorful crap that's posted on just a simple opinion post like this one.
9/11 is going to re-occur again and again because people - and this includes us holy messageboard fountains of higher knowledge - are too stupid, ignorant and territorial to accomodate anyone else's views without wanting to shove and push our own across and over the next guy's.
and i'm done with this fucking bullshit.
Last time I checked a message board is designed so people can comment and give their viewpoints on matters. And where do come up with this last paragraph? You are just as guilty of this as anyone else.
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Originally posted by mrmatas2277
i totally agree about ur oil comment....but to FIND an alternative to oil and then actually making the transition over might take a long time...so i dont see that as a valid option, untill we aggressively move these "other" forms of energy...about pulling out of the Middle East all together, that would be one of the worse decisions made by us...but i agree that we should have a more balanced form of diplomacy (i.e. Israel/Palestine)
I agree with u totally. The problem is hardly any money is being put into the research of these alternate forms of energy because the fact is oil is big bucks. I did see on TV about a company which was attempting to take garbage and convert it to oil. As of right now they are able to do it but the cost is way too high.
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Originally posted by bigpoppanils
1. we dont have to find an oil alternative....just use less
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People dont want to change their lifestyles around and frankly they wont. If we can develop these clean energy sources the amount of energy wouldnt even be an issue.
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Originally posted by ghhhhhost
im not so sure how saddam was flipping the bird to the international community...he was actually flipping the bird to the US..and rightfully so...holding a sovereign nation hostage with threats of violence if it doesnt comply to bullshit standards is wrong any way u flip it...
the korea shit is overhyped...Bush Jr. needed a new enemy after Iraq...luckily he found Syria to pick on..everyone knows theyre weaker than Korea...
since when do u (yes eric, u ) care about people living under the Taliban rule? ur the one who said the slaugter of japanese civilians in hiroshima and nagasaki was necessary...so since when do u care for some muslims living in the mountains of Asia Minor?? typical bullshit US cop out reasoning
Saddam brought everything that happened to him on himself by invading Kuwait in 90 so dont make it like the US randomly chose him. Those bullshit standards were their for a reason whether or not he still had the WMD is unknown but regardless dont make it like the US brought on that situation, Saddam is to blame.
Korea is far from overhyped you have a paranoid lunatic Kim Jong Il, a relic of the Stalinistic ideology who tests bombs over Japan and is developing ICBM's for the sole purpose of threatening US cities.
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Originally posted by igloo
You bore me with your jibberish, lack of comprehensive thought and depth, and painful uneducated drivel......hopefully, that meets your demand
Least you tried to be educated with your insults this time. And yes anything that goes against conservative ideology is of course "painfull uneducated drivel".
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Originally posted by igloo
Pull out of the middle east?......Until when, an Arab country asks the U.S. to protect them or the U.N. asks the U.S. to clean up a mess there......I get it, get involved when U.S. national security is not at risk, and don't get involved when U.S. national security is at risk.....which is what the U.N. would love of course, and retards like yourself...
And by your implications, "Israel" should pull out of the Middle East too...good idea, let's pick up the state of Israel and place them in Antartica, therefore the Islamic murderers can't get them, and would be deprived of their wish to destroy the Israeli state......their gas masks could now e used to keep their faces warm, therefore saving their investments
Also, I suggest we put back Saddam Hussein in power, and remove all constraints on his power, this way he could continue to develop WMD and attack his people and neighbors...
The great Middle East, the pillars of advanced civilization, thought, and values, and of course, some of the best terrorist camps and schools Saudi money could buy
....get out U.S., and let the incubation of Islamic fundamentalism hit a new level.......great things can be achieved in the terrorism arts if the U.S. would just get out of the way......
And of course, Iran......let them run free and hopefully in time, their nuclear program would be advanced enough to hit our shores, and hit the Israelis bunkered down in igloo's in Antartica...no matter, the Israelis' were cold anyway, were bored without the daily suicide bombings, and had a hard time finding kosher penguin meat
Run home U.S., and pretend the world is a nice place where others seek pollyana, no harm to the U.S. because we are back at home "wishing" that "things" will just get better....oops, I forgot, we tried that with eight years of the Clinton Administration---didn't work out too good
But who cares about that shit, we should be happy driving around in our hydrogen powered cars and running with the porcupine carribou we protect in Alaska by preventing oil exploration,....... and don't forget the giant power windmills placed in areas that do not become eyesores for the hypocritical rich liberals in their 20,000 sqaure feet homes
what a great world that would be
Excellent job putting words in my mouth i applaud you. I like how you put the liberal spin in the end that was real nice. When did i say get rid of Israel? I'm far from a hater of Israel in fact i used them as an example of how increased security, killing leaders, destroying terror cells has yet to change anything in their situation. When did i say we should get involved when US national security is not at risk? Actually my whole point is we should only get involved when US security is at risk. I'm a firm believer in that the US cannot tackle the problems of the world so we should not even try. Oh and here we go Iraq was a threat blah blah blah we can go back and forth on this we both know each others opinions on the matter.
You mention Iran, are we holding Iran to the same level we did Iraq? How about North Korea? Who are in the process of finishing their ICBM program? Now that is an imminent threat my friend how about arguing for us to put that imminent threat in the forefront? Their for once maybe we'll agree.
BTW you mock hydrogen powered cars. I guess you enjoy having our government be influenced by the black gold and having to deal with Saudi Arabian two faced bullshit and also the smog from oil does wonders for the environment but oh i forgot if you care about the environment your just a tree hugging liberal right? Lets see how many curses and put downs that your so famous for will be seen in your reply.
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Quote "but how do u MAKE people not want to become terrorists? dont side with Israel? give them more aid?"
Pull out of Middle east all together, get rid of our dependency on their oil would be a start. The increase in security has done wonders for Israel right????
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not a bad article especially comparing to some of the opinions u post up here. On the number 6 though i really dont see tightening of security and giving up liberties as the answer. You look at a country like Israel who is the model nation for safety measures and yet they still cannot stop terrorism from ocurring. I feel the only way of stopping terrorism is by ending the desire for people to become terrorists. With so much anti-americanism in the world now I really dont see a way of preventing the attacks from ocurring.
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Neither the UN nor US gov. really care about the suffering of the Iraqi people. Enough arguing about it we're their lets hope it works out their and we can get the fuck out of the region.
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Originally posted by igloo
Today, once again Dean is crying about the cost of war (obvioulsy he has learned zero in two years)......
To put things in perspective, the amount spent in billions for the restructuring of Japan and Germany, which took years...would be three times higher than the $87 billion Bush asked for yesterday when adjusted to reflect current economic elements....
Dean is a clown
How you could even compare Iraq to world war 2 is amazing.
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/09/08/music.downloading/index.html
CNN) -- The recording industry filed 261 lawsuits against individual Internet music file sharers Monday and announced an amnesty program for people who admit they illegally share music files through the Internet.
The federal lawsuits and amnesty program are the latest moves by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) in its fight against illegal music file trading on the Internet, which record companies blame for a 31 percent drop in compact disc sales since mid-2000.
Cary Sherman, president of the RIAA, said civil lawsuits filed were against "major offenders" who made available an average of 1,000 copyrighted song files.
"Nobody likes playing the heavy and having to resort to litigation," Sherman said. "But when your product is being regularly stolen, there comes a time when you have to take appropriate action."
Program grants amnesty
Sherman also announced the Clean Slate Program that grants amnesty to users who voluntarily identify themselves, erase downloaded music files and promise not to share music on the Internet.
"We're willing to hold out our version of an olive branch," Sherman said.
The RIAA said it will not sue users who sign and have notarized a Clean Slate Program affidavit.
"For those who want to wipe the slate clean and to avoid a potential lawsuit, this is the way to go," said Mitch Bainwol, RIAA chairman and CEO. "We want to send a strong message that the illegal distribution of copyrighted works has consequences, but if individuals are willing to step forward on their own, we want to go the extra step and extend them this option."
But the San Francisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation, which has criticized the RIAA's use of copyright subpoenas, urged file swappers to ignore the amnesty offer.
"Rather than demanding that 60 million people sharing music files turn themselves in with a so-called 'amnesty' program, the recording industry should take this opportunity to make file-sharing legal in exchange for a reasonable fee," Electronic Frontier Foundation attorney Wendy Seltzer said in a statement.
The group cautioned that RIAA doesn't represent all music copyright owners and couldn't ensure that people admitting guilt through the amnesty program wouldn't be sued by others claiming copyright infringement.
"Stepping into the spotlight to admit your guilt is probably not a sensible course for most people sharing music files online, especially since the RIAA doesn't control many potential sources of lawsuits," Seltzer said.
Those targeted ineligible
The offer of amnesty will not apply to about 1,600 people RIAA already has targeted with copyright subpoenas. The decision to file those subpoenas came a few weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings mandated that an Internet provider turn over the names of subscribers believed to be illegally sharing music and movies.
Until now, the only music file-swapping lawsuits filed by RIAA were against four college students accused of making thousands of songs available on campus networks. Those cases were settled earlier this year for $12,500 to $17,000 each.
Sherman said Monday that RIAA had negotiated settlements in the range of $3,000 with a "handful" of Internet users who had learned from their Internet service providers that they were being targeted for lawsuits. The industry is also pursuing subpoenas at universities around the country seeking to identify music file traders.
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Originally posted by igloo
lost...completely lost......
Was it not Clinton in the White House for 8 years, EIGHT YEARS, when Al Qaeda became stronger and stronger, while he continued to ignore a growing problem........EIGHT YEARS retard....
Funny how the media and the Dems though pressed on with the failed "What Bush Knew" campaign....nah, not a liberal media bias......
Was it not Clinton who made decisions that actually made Al Qaeda grow more confiedent with each terrorist attack
Was it not Clinton who failed to be more pro-active in the fight against terrorism, despite the CIA and Counter-Terrorism chief begging him to take a hard stance
Perhaps 3,000 lives would not have been lost, as you mentioned, had Clinton did his job....Can you grasp that?......
Or perhaps maybe the Bush haters who continually object to his pre-emptive doctrine can learn a lesson that hoping threats go away is not a sound strategy, as the U.S painfully learned
DId you read the articles that were posted?.....Again, re-read the articles before you vomit more of your ignorance......
BTW--if you have read most books on AL Qaeda and terrorism, you would see the common theme across all reading material how the Clinton White failed miserably to face the threat posed by AL Qaeda, and at times, actually emboldened their cause with half-ass measures...
Do me a favor, STFU on a topic you have no clue about...
HA well i will say that you do give me a good laugh when u post.
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Originally posted by igloo
Completely off topic....completely.....
Stick with the point....re-read the articles, look at the data, and get the point--if you can....
DO you have the capacity to do that?
In addition, you were the one who brought up Bush, and questioned how he lost bin laden.......
Stick to the topic........
Sad you must start insulting people every time you debate. Actually I brought up Bush to try to shed light on the fact that you can't put the sole blame on Clinton and the democrats. Noone on either side did anything to address the terror issue in the 90's. You blame Clinton for not doing enough but the republicans neglected the issue as well. The fact is the hardline stance against Alqueda did not begin until 3000+ died in those two towers which is a shame for both parties.
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Have fun in France jerk
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Damn your right I forgot Democrats always wrong republicans always right thats how it goes???? It must be that big liberal media conspiracy....
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It's technology thats "ruining" the industry no the people who try to socialize on a message board. Stop copying people and give up on trying to trash people for internet dloading, its gettin so old.