That's what I'm trying to express. It's weird how the game evolved. Fifteen years ago, it was "imperative" to have a stiff in the middle. I mean, would Jon Koncak and Kevin Duckworth really have NBA careers if they were drafted this year? Also, back then you had Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing, Daughtery, Mutombo and a little bit later - Mourning (before he became a full blown cunt) and Shaq. Your stereotypical post-up center has pretty much vanished. However, I heard this new kid, Greg Oden, is supposed to be a throwback, but he's only just starting college.