JonStephen Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 I thought it was effective March 1st.........I was out all weekend and everywhere I went people were smoking all over the place. Am I just wrong as to the date when this ban becomes effective?Anyways, even if it is effective, this stupid ass law wont last long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housedog Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 I think it is march 30th. I dont smoke I dont care, Just another way for us to be controled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 i don't smoke... but in all honesty... i hope it goes worse than prohibition did... you start letting laws dictate where and when you can do things, and by the year 2036 we'll be living in pussy-whipped, brady bunch, disneyland with the government telling us when to breath, and using seashells to wipe our ass because toilet paper isn't "enviro-friendly"... if laws are to be passed... they should be passed to make venues have proper ventilation systems... that would benefit smokers and nonsmokers alike... and wouldn't compromise anyones freedom... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStephen Posted March 3 Author Report Share Posted March 3 Originally posted by joeg i don't smoke... but in all honesty... i hope it goes worse than prohibition did... you start letting laws dictate where and when you can do things, and by the year 2036 we'll be living in pussy-whipped, brady bunch, disneyland with the government telling us when to breath, and using seashells to wipe our ass because toilet paper isn't "enviro-friendly"... if laws are to be passed... they should be passed to make venues have proper ventilation systems... that would benefit smokers and nonsmokers alike... and wouldn't compromise anyones freedom... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abortionator Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Originally posted by joeg you start letting laws dictate where and when you can do things, and by the year 2036 I'll mark my calendar Nostrodamus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teklord310 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Originally posted by abortionator I'll mark my calendar Nostrodamus U wise cracker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trancerxn112 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Originally posted by joeg i don't smoke... but in all honesty... i hope it goes worse than prohibition did... you start letting laws dictate where and when you can do things, and by the year 2036 we'll be living in pussy-whipped, brady bunch, disneyland with the government telling us when to breath, and using seashells to wipe our ass because toilet paper isn't "enviro-friendly"... if laws are to be passed... they should be passed to make venues have proper ventilation systems... that would benefit smokers and nonsmokers alike... and wouldn't compromise anyones freedom... im afraid of the same thing u are but in all fairness this is a law that a LOT of people wanted to see passed smoking is not fair to those that dont smoke its like getting the harmfell by products without getting the benefits. I dont mind the law but ur wrong about the pussy-whipped thing America are a war-like people... we dont do petroleum, we dont do electronics and we dont do cars (well at least) what we do well is bomb the shit out of other countries and if we have to go to war with out own government believe me itll happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LavenderMenace Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 It goes into effect march 30th.March 1 was for nassau county.*sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuturephunk Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 I do not smoke anymore, so I can't say that I really care that this thing is passing, but .. I do think its kinda sore that all the smokers out there have to take it on the chin because its de rigueur to pass anti-smoking laws nowadays...Boo ... Hoo ... Hoo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quoth Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Originally posted by teklord310 U wise cracker... u DUMB cracker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombardjef Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 I don't smoke, but I'm against the law in principle. It will be interesting to see how strictly it is enforced and if the cops will use the law to further scrutinize and harass the clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineones Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 im not a big fan of this law ..i bartend in queens..and business is gona DROP big time come march 31st...so im not looking foward to it...illbe able ot breathe better but have to find another job just to live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaligirl Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 The ban in Nassau county did take effect midnight on Friday night.I went to TJI Fridays on Sunday and sure enough all the smokers were outside smoking.I really don't know how the business owners in the city are going to enforce this one, especially the clubs???? But I did hear that the owners have the right to refuse service and throw people out if they light up inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Originally posted by trancerxn112 im afraid of the same thing u are but in all fairness this is a law that a LOT of people wanted to see passed smoking is not fair to those that dont smoke its like getting the harmfell by products without getting the benefits. I dont mind the law but ur wrong about the pussy-whipped thing America are a war-like people... we dont do petroleum, we dont do electronics and we dont do cars (well at least) what we do well is bomb the shit out of other countries and if we have to go to war with out own government believe me itll happen... well i don't think you should drive your car anymore, because it pollutes my air, and it hurts your neighbor's ears... so find another way to get to work.... (see what i'm saying??? where does the line get drawn??)i mean, thats a gross exaduration... but i just woke up... so cut me some slack...point being... if we give 'big government' too much power now, it may come back to bite us in the ass later... i mean... look at cabaret laws??? you need a permit to dance??? wtf??? 5 years from now, clubs in ny will be getting shutdown left and right because of "smoke-house laws" theres 2 real solutions to this...1) if you can't stand the smoke, get out of the kitchen... (club/bar/whatever... you get the idea...) (but i think thats the wrong way to go about things)or2) provide laws for ventilation, much like there are "fire code" laws... and "Sanitation" laws... make a law that says any establishment must not have X parts of carbon in the air... this way, everyone benefits...we can't compromise civil liberties just because its easier than making business owners provide safe conditions for its patrons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintron Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Originally posted by joeg well i don't think you should drive your car anymore, because it pollutes my air, and it hurts your neighbor's ears... so find another way to get to work.... (see what i'm saying??? where does the line get drawn??) my car burns tons of high octane fuel per year, is noisy, pollutes the air richy since it has NO cats (even though it's supposed to) and spits flames occasionally that scare minivan drivers, riced out Hondas and occasionally set small children ablaze. there's always a way to get around laws. (namely a 70/30 mix of Sunoco 94 and Methanol during the NYC emissions test ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly0616 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 i think the law is great....i dont smoke....socially once in a while but i HATE walking out of a bar or club and reaking of cigarettes. i hate when people are smoking around me and smoke being blown in my face. not only is it not good for you its bad for your skin to and causes premature wrinkles. as a woman i do enough bad things like tanning and so forth i dont need smoke around me to top it off. and i dont see it effecting the bar business that much people still are going to want to go out and drink. maybe more people will either quit or cut down on smoking. This can only benefit everybody!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickhouse Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Originally posted by joeg 2) provide laws for ventilation, much like there are "fire code" laws... and "Sanitation" laws... make a law that says any establishment must not have X parts of carbon in the air... this way, everyone benefits... That's what they do in Japan....you can smoke pretty much anywhere, and noplace gets so smoky that you get the smell on your clothes if you're not with a smoker...The thing that pisses me off about it is that it's supposedly being done to protect the health of people who get second-hand smoke. That's a really poor excuse....the effects of second-hand smoke are only present when you're living with a smoker, breathing in the air from that person for 20+ years. While there may be a few workers in NYC who have been in the bars for 20 years, I'm sure there really aren't that many...Anyway, a few places will capitalize on a loophole. For instance, Arc could make the Arcade a smoking room (since it has a six foot hallway built-in) as long as nobody works back there. That would mean only one bar, and no DJ in the arcade, so that might be too much to sacrifice. However, I know there are other places trying to take advantage of that one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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