Bush in '04

[normalnoises]

President Bush has been an exceptional president. In fact, he might go down in the history books as one of America's greatest neo-con presidents ever! His domestic policies, foreign policies and appointments have all been tremendously neo-conastically successful, and when added up, point to why Bush must be re-elected in '04.

President Bush's domestic policies are a good place to begin. Let's start with his fiscal responsibility. He has succeeded where no other president has! His administration has not created any more jobs, even though he created an entirely new executive department; in fact, America has lost nearly 3.2 million jobs under his watch! Now, where did these jobs go? Answer: first to Mexico, and now on to China and India where labor is cheap but still effective and the working conditions, or sweat shops, are fantastic - for the pockets of billionaires!

There are 244 billionaires in this country who will save millions, thanks to President Bush's executive favor of helping them cut 3.2 million American jobs and allowing them to move overseas. The World Trade Organization and NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) allow the big corporations to do this, and even though they don't comply with UN labor laws or our labor laws (or even the Declaration of Human Rights), they do provide easy profits, so clearly they are economically the right thing to do.

President Bush also helped this country, and especially the top socio-economic one percent by issuing tax cuts. In fact, 42 percent of the entire tax cuts go to the top one percent of this country, once again saving the 244 billionaires tons of money! President Bush's tax cuts also will decrease the amount of revenue the government takes in from taxes, which will increase our deficit, but this country has gotten out of debt before, and even a deficit of $6,801,630,117,875.55 shouldn't be a problem (Can you figure that number out? That's trillions.)

The huge surplus we had with President Clinton is gone because President Bush had to spend it on national security so the FBI could use the Patriot Act to know what library books you read without telling you. But don't you feel safer now that the FBI can detain you indefinitely, without a lawyer, in another country, on a U.S. military base, without any communication to the outside world, and even "mildly" and "humanely" torture you because they think you could be a terrorist? Clearly this administration believes in upholding Constitutional rights!

President Bush ran on the "Compassionate Conservative" ticket, embracing issues such as school funding, and promising to do the only the best for our generation. President Bush clearly started off on the right foot by threatening to completely cut all funding for the Department of Education. You see, the Department of Education has outrageous demands for teacher salaries and certain standards that teachers must meet. Increased salaries and tougher standards mean more money for education and less for rooting out terrorist librarians.

Our President changed his mind about the Department of Education, and decided to move ahead with his "Compassionate Conservative" agenda by sponsoring "No Child Left Behind." This program would guarantee funding to schools that need to raise their curriculum and performance levels so that all students could read by eighth grade. President Bush decided that even though he promised to allocate $18 billion he would only give $12 billion, because keeping the children safe from possible terrorist librarians was more important. The children must be safe before they can learn, right?

If Bush's domestic policy hasn't convinced you to vote for him in '04, I think his foreign policy will. I have already mentioned NAFTA and the WTO, but President Bush is also involved in the United Nations. Now, as we Americans know, America is always right, and, of course, the best, so we are involved in the UN only to tell other countries what to do to make us happy. Shouldn't the best demand compliance? President Bush believes so. Other countries are often jealous that the U.S. is the best, so they present arguments that seem logical just to push the U.S. (who is the best) around. The other countries' logical-sounding arguments can't be, because the U.S. is always right, and to criticize something that is right is wrong. It is really a strain sometimes to have to deal with every other country that differs in opinion (of course their opinions are wrong if they differ with us), and President Bush tries his hardest to be nice.

Sometimes countries admit that the U.S. is right and stop acting so silly and logical when President Bush gives them green paper presents. That's right, before we invaded Iraq, President Bush dangled hundreds of millions of dollars in front of Turkey so they would admit we were right and allow us to use Turkey as a military base. Some may suggest to the President that he invest that money in education, but remember: the President is never wrong, and making Turkey say we are right is more important than providing for our children.

But the one foreign policy executive action that makes President Bush so great is his Iraq War. The rest of the world knew Saddam was bad, but because they were so jealous of the U.S., they told the U.S. it would be evil to liberate oil fields. Think about this: The President needs people to fund his campaign. If the President's economy is bad, big business will not want to fund him. If he topples another country and cripples not only the infrastructure but also the power, water, electricity and food supply, he could help out his friends in big corporations like Halliburton and MCI/WorldCom by awarding them billion-dollar, competition-free contracts. Halliburton is the company that Vice President Dick Cheney used to be the CEO of, but awarding up to $70 billion classified contracts to Halliburton had nothing to do with that, and even less to do with more efficient, cheaper companies trying in vain to compete in this supposed free market economy. MCI/WorldCom donated primarily to the Republican Party, and was surprisingly awarded a contract to construct a cellular network in Iraq.

Even more surprising is that no other companies were even asked what price they could do it for, or for their input. MCI/WorldCom has never actually done such a task before, ever. But what is most surprising is that President Bush would trust people who misplaced $4 billion and helped crash the stock market. Then again, MCI/WorldCom and the Bush family go way back, and even though the company has had a significant history of fraud, theft and deception, don't they deserve another chance? Our President gives second chances because he is a compassionate conservative!

I was going to tell you how awesome the people around President Bush are, but I figured the evidence here is so strong for the Vote for Bush in '04 case that I shouldn't even have to get into that. Remember, it's your responsibility as a citizen of this country to vote, and I strongly suggest Bush. If you're not with him, you are a terrorist.

[jamiroguy1]

Excellent!

[mr mahs]

GDP is 7.2% best in 20 years..

unemployement 6% 300k jobs have been CREATED already (lagging indicator).

This recovery is all because of the reduction in TAX RATES AND REFUNDS....

No terrorist attack on U.S soil since 911(fingers crossed)

75% of Alqaeda leadership round up

Cutting off vital funding to terrorsit orginazations around the world....

Taking america security seriously instead of relying on a toothless world body...

BUSH IN 2004 IS BULLETPROOF

[normalnoises]

President Bush often emphasizes his commitment to veterans, saying in 2001, "My administration understands America's obligations not only go to those who wear the uniform today, but to those who wore the uniform in the past: to our veterans."1

But the 200,000 veterans waiting six months or more for their first appointment at a VA facility would be denied access to VA health care under Bush's plan. Others would be charged $250 annual enrollment fees, doubled prescription costs and increased co-payments.2

The same day the President met with wounded soldiers and said that America "should and must provide the best care for anybody who is willing to put their life in harm's way,"3 the Veterans' Administration explained that it could solve the backlog problem by limiting enrollment. "VA would avoid very significant additional medical benefits costs and begin to bring demand in line with capacity, which will reduce the number of veterans on wait lists."4

The administration would also reduce costs by denying access to "better-off"5 veterans - those who do not have service-related disabilities and with incomes as low as $21,050.6

Estimates suggest this would likely more than triple the number of veterans denied health care by FY 2005 to more than half a million7, and the VA anticipates that 55%8 of veterans who already participate in the VA health care plan, numbering 1.25 million, may be unable to continue participation due to the enrollment fee.9

Congress has called for $1.8 billion beyond what the administration requested for FY 2004 funding beyond the White House request.10

While funding for VA 2004 remains unresolved, Congress sought to include $1.3 billion in veterans' health care and extending reservists benefits who have been called up in the $87 billion emergency funding bill. The administration "strongly opposed" the provisions, articulated in a letter from White House Budget Director Joshua Bolten, which were later stripped.11

Sources:

Presidential Speech to the VFW, 8/20/01; Presidential Speech to the American Legion, 8/29/01.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2004/va.html

President Bush Meets with Wounded Soldiers at Medical Center, 1/17/03.

Department of Veterans Affairs, 38 CFR Part 17 Enrollment-Provision of Hospital and Outpatient Care to Veterans Subpriorities of Priority Categories 7 and 8 and Annual Enrollment Level Decision; Final Rule, 1/17/03.

VA Seeks Record Budget, Shuts Health Care to Priority 8 Vets, American Forces Press Service, 1/24/03.

http://www.house.gov/strickland/vetsreport.htm

Department of Veterans Affairs, 38 CFR Part 17 Enrollment-Provision of Hospital and Outpatient Care to Veterans Subpriorities of Priority Categories 7 and 8 and Annual Enrollment Level Decision; Final Rule, 1/17/03.

http://www.house.gov/larson/pr_030523.htm

Etheridge: Budget Cuts Veterans, Rocky Mount Telegram, 4/1/03.

Action Alert, American Legion.

"House vote backs loans as Iraq bill confronts new woes," GovExec.com, 10/22/03.

Apparently Bush is with the terrorists because obviously he's not with us.

Way to support your troops Bushie.

[mr mahs]

Originally posted by normalnoises

President Bush often emphasizes his commitment to veterans, saying in 2001, "My administration understands America's obligations not only go to those who wear the uniform today, but to those who wore the uniform in the past: to our veterans."1

But the 200,000 veterans waiting six months or more for their first appointment at a VA facility would be denied access to VA health care under Bush's plan. Others would be charged $250 annual enrollment fees, doubled prescription costs and increased co-payments.2

The same day the President met with wounded soldiers and said that America "should and must provide the best care for anybody who is willing to put their life in harm's way,"3 the Veterans' Administration explained that it could solve the backlog problem by limiting enrollment. "VA would avoid very significant additional medical benefits costs and begin to bring demand in line with capacity, which will reduce the number of veterans on wait lists."4

The administration would also reduce costs by denying access to "better-off"5 veterans - those who do not have service-related disabilities and with incomes as low as $21,050.6

Estimates suggest this would likely more than triple the number of veterans denied health care by FY 2005 to more than half a million7, and the VA anticipates that 55%8 of veterans who already participate in the VA health care plan, numbering 1.25 million, may be unable to continue participation due to the enrollment fee.9

Congress has called for $1.8 billion beyond what the administration requested for FY 2004 funding beyond the White House request.10

While funding for VA 2004 remains unresolved, Congress sought to include $1.3 billion in veterans' health care and extending reservists benefits who have been called up in the $87 billion emergency funding bill. The administration "strongly opposed" the provisions, articulated in a letter from White House Budget Director Joshua Bolten, which were later stripped.11

Sources:

Presidential Speech to the VFW, 8/20/01; Presidential Speech to the American Legion, 8/29/01.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2004/va.html

President Bush Meets with Wounded Soldiers at Medical Center, 1/17/03.

Department of Veterans Affairs, 38 CFR Part 17 Enrollment-Provision of Hospital and Outpatient Care to Veterans Subpriorities of Priority Categories 7 and 8 and Annual Enrollment Level Decision; Final Rule, 1/17/03.

VA Seeks Record Budget, Shuts Health Care to Priority 8 Vets, American Forces Press Service, 1/24/03.

http://www.house.gov/strickland/vetsreport.htm

Department of Veterans Affairs, 38 CFR Part 17 Enrollment-Provision of Hospital and Outpatient Care to Veterans Subpriorities of Priority Categories 7 and 8 and Annual Enrollment Level Decision; Final Rule, 1/17/03.

http://www.house.gov/larson/pr_030523.htm

Etheridge: Budget Cuts Veterans, Rocky Mount Telegram, 4/1/03.

Action Alert, American Legion.

"House vote backs loans as Iraq bill confronts new woes," GovExec.com, 10/22/03.

Apparently Bush is with the terrorists because obviously he's not with us.

Way to support your troops Bushie.

Can't you have a logical thought you social misfit? Did all the LSD rot your brain where a coherant thought is unacheivable? I give you facts that contradict that horse shitr article and you post this crap? ASSHOLE!

[mr mahs]

I bet you have no idea what I was talking about with those figures I posted right?

[normalnoises]

Originally posted by mr mahs

Can't you have a logical thought you social misfit? Did all the LSD rot your brain where a coherant thought is unacheivable? I give you facts that contradict that horse shitr article and you post this crap? ASSHOLE!

I love how you prove my points.

I can tell you have no rebuttal and no facts to back your words and if I want to hear from an ASSHOLE, I'd FART.

Originally posted by mr mahs

BUSH IS BULLETPROFF

BUSH IS VULNERABLE

[mr mahs]

Originally posted by normalnoises

I love how you prove my points.

I can tell you have no rebuttal and no facts to back your words and if I want to hear from an ASSHOLE, I'd FART.

BUSH IS VULNERABLE

:laugh: stick to BLENDER DUUUDE :laugh:

[mrmatas2277]

Originally posted by mr mahs

GDP is 7.2% best in 20 years..

unemployement 6% 300k jobs have been CREATED already (lagging indicator).

This recovery is all because of the reduction in TAX RATES AND REFUNDS....

No terrorist attack on U.S soil since 911(fingers crossed)

75% of Alqaeda leadership round up

Cutting off vital funding to terrorsit orginazations around the world....

when dealing with Normal...please refer to the quote in my sig...have a nice day...

[seximofo2k]

Bush is far from bulletproof

[mrmatas2277]

Originally posted by seximofo2k

Bush is far from bulletproof

no ONE is bullet proof....

[normalnoises]

Originally posted by mr mahs

GDP is 7.2% best in 20 years..

unemployement 6% 300k jobs have been CREATED already (lagging indicator).

This recovery is all because of the reduction in TAX RATES AND REFUNDS....

No terrorist attack on U.S soil since 911(fingers crossed)

75% of Alqaeda leadership round up

Cutting off vital funding to terrorsit orginazations around the world....

Taking america security seriously instead of relying on a toothless world body...

BUSH IN 2004 IS BULLETPROOF

Bush Touts Economic Numbers, But Less Rosy Reality Lies Beneath the Surface

President Bush toured a manufacturing plant in Alabama Monday, touting the success of his tax cut policies. "I went to the Congress, not once, but twice, and said, in order for people to be able to find work here in the country, let's pass meaningful, real tax relief."1 But the President's policies have thus far not resulted in jobs--since his first tax cut passed in 2001, the economy has lost a net of 2.75 million jobs.2

The president claimed that his 2003 tax cut, worth $550 billion, would create 1.4 million new jobs over two years.3 The bill which became law, worth $330 billion, was estimated by the President's Council of Economic Advisers to create almost one million jobs over the same period.4 Since passage, the economy has experienced a net loss of jobs every month except September, when the economy added a total of 57,000 jobs, well below the overall targets predicted by the CEA for the second half of the year.5

Even as the administration claimed that the Bush tax cut policies "brought economic activity to a higher level, which increases incomes and living standards for American workers,"6 other economists pointed to figures showing a decline in average hourly earnings as a troubling sign for disposable income.7 Real wage and salary income declined by 1.2% between the start of the last recession and August of 2003, the most pronounced decline 29 months after a recession began since 1959-well below the historical average of 3.5% growth.8

Sources:

Presidential Speech, 11/3/03. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/11/20031103-7.html

Daily Progress Report, Center for American Progress, 11/4/03. http://www.centerforamericanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?cid={E9245FE4-9A2B-43C7-A521-5D6FF2E06E03}&bin_id={A8C23A8B-2440-48C9-A301-3866F02F7D0D}

"The President's Jobs and Growth Plan: Focused on Consumers and Investors," Whitehouse.gov. http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/economy/consumption_and_investment.html

"Excerpts from May 6, 2003 Press Briefing," Whitehouse.gov, 5/6/03. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/05/20030506-18.html

"Excerpts from May 6, 2003 Press Briefing," Whitehouse.gov, 5/6/03.

"Tax Relief Helps Economic Growth," Whitehouse.gov. http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/webfeatures_snapshots_archive_10292003

"Healthy increase in economic growth is not translating into more jobs," NPR Morning Edition, 10/27/03.

"Economic Snapshots: Still no recovery in wage and salary income," Economic Policy Institute, 10/29/03. http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/webfeatures_snapshots_archive_10292003

Source: EPI analysis of Bureau of Economic Analysis data.

Apparently Mr Mahs, someone here has done his research. Have you?

BUSH IS FAR FROM BULLETPROOF.

[normalnoises]

Originally posted by mr mahs

:laugh: stick to BLENDER DUUUDE :laugh:

HAHAHA!! Proved my point again, dickweed.

PS... Read the above post and afterwards you can continue to fight your war in front of your comtrash computer in the comforts of your living room.... or even read Dr. Seuss if you like, you fucking chickenhawk war supporting pussy.

PS... Here's a quote from Bush's dad:

"To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make a broken tyrant into a latter-day hero ... assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an un-winnable urban guerilla war. It could only plunge that part of the world into even greater instability." - George Bush Snr, in A World Transformed, 1998

Why did he let his son do this when he knew this would happen in the first place?

And you just got to LOVE how sonny boy (and his "tools") supports our troops:

Pentagon keeps dead out of sight

Bush team doesn't want people to see human cost of war

Even body bags are now sanitized as `transfer tubes'

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1067728207768

And what about those Veterans benefits???

President's Spending for Ex-Soldiers Falls Short of Promise to Give Them "Priority" Treatment

Two years ago, President Bush said, "Veterans are a priority for this administration... and that priority is reflected in my budget."1 But, a year ago, when he had a chance to approve an emergency funding bill that included $275 million for medical care of veterans, he said, "We'll spend none of it."2

Now the President's 2004 budget request for the Veterans Administration will effectively cut spending for its already-stretched health care system. Because of increased medical costs at an above-inflation rate of 4.7% and increased enrollment of 8%, the American Legion calculates that Bush's 2004 request "comes $1.9 billion short of maintaining an inadequate status quo."3

A task force commissioned by Bush himself has reported that federal funding to handle the ailments of former soldiers continues to be considerably less than their needs. In the past ten years the spending per patient dropped from almost $15,000 to less than $5,000.4

More than 235,000 veterans are currently waiting six months or more for an initial appointment.5

Sources:

Remarks by the President to the Veterans of Foreign Wars, August 20, 2001.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/08/20010820-1.html

"Bush and the Economy: The Economic Forum; Economic Outlook is Positive, Bush Tells Texas Forum," New York Times, 8/14/02, p. A19.

A System Worth Saving, American Legion Magazine, May 2003 (from Committee on Government Reform, Minority Staff Report, May 2003)

"A Brief Guide to the Final Report," The President's Task Force to Improve Health Care for Our Nation's Veterans, p. 9. http://www.presidentshealthcare.org/pdffiles/IHCD_Short_Report_3rd.pdf

Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States. http://www.vfwdc.org/NLS/mandatorytp.htm

Oh, I musn't forget how the Pentagon tried to cut combat pay to the troops who are currently in Iraq:

Troops in Iraq face pay cut

Pentagon says tough duty bonuses are budget-buster

Edward Epstein, Chronicle Washington Bureau

Thursday, August 14, 2003

©2003 San Francisco Chronicle | Feedback

URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/08/14/MN94780.DTL

Washington -- The Pentagon wants to cut the pay of its 148,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, who are already contending with guerrilla-style attacks, homesickness and 120- degree-plus heat.

Unless Congress and President Bush take quick action when Congress returns after Labor Day, the uniformed Americans in Iraq and the 9,000 in Afghanistan will lose a pay increase approved last April of $75 a month in "imminent danger pay" and $150 a month in "family separation allowances."

The Defense Department supports the cuts, saying its budget can't sustain the higher payments amid a host of other priorities. But the proposed cuts have stirred anger among military families and veterans' groups and even prompted an editorial attack in the Army Times, a weekly newspaper for military personnel and their families that is seldom so outspoken.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/08/14/MN94780.DTL

Bush and his "tools" truely know how to support the troops Don't they Mr. Mahs??

Go on, fight the war in front of your computer (or read Dr. Seuss) and pretend everything is pure meat and potatos with savory gravy. Go on pretend Bush is perfect like he can do no wrong because when you finally awaken from your fantasy world and begin to smell the stench of reality it will be too late when he finally kills you and all of us by the time he's finished with his shit because my friend, you have no clue.

[mr mahs]

Originally posted by normalnoises

HAHAHA!! Proved my point again, dickweed.

PS... Read the above post and afterwards you can continue to fight your war in front of your comtrash computer in the comforts of your living room.... or even read Dr. Seuss if you like, you fucking chickenhawk war supporting pussy.

PS... Here's a quote from Bush's dad:

"To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make a broken tyrant into a latter-day hero ... assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an un-winnable urban guerilla war. It could only plunge that part of the world into even greater instability." - George Bush Snr, in A World Transformed, 1998

Why did he let his son do this when he knew this would happen in the first place?

And you just got to LOVE how sonny boy (and his "tools") supports our troops:

Pentagon keeps dead out of sight

Bush team doesn't want people to see human cost of war

Even body bags are now sanitized as `transfer tubes'

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1067728207768

And what about those Veterans benefits???

President's Spending for Ex-Soldiers Falls Short of Promise to Give Them "Priority" Treatment

Two years ago, President Bush said, "Veterans are a priority for this administration... and that priority is reflected in my budget."1 But, a year ago, when he had a chance to approve an emergency funding bill that included $275 million for medical care of veterans, he said, "We'll spend none of it."2

Now the President's 2004 budget request for the Veterans Administration will effectively cut spending for its already-stretched health care system. Because of increased medical costs at an above-inflation rate of 4.7% and increased enrollment of 8%, the American Legion calculates that Bush's 2004 request "comes $1.9 billion short of maintaining an inadequate status quo."3

A task force commissioned by Bush himself has reported that federal funding to handle the ailments of former soldiers continues to be considerably less than their needs. In the past ten years the spending per patient dropped from almost $15,000 to less than $5,000.4

More than 235,000 veterans are currently waiting six months or more for an initial appointment.5

Sources:

Remarks by the President to the Veterans of Foreign Wars, August 20, 2001.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/08/20010820-1.html

"Bush and the Economy: The Economic Forum; Economic Outlook is Positive, Bush Tells Texas Forum," New York Times, 8/14/02, p. A19.

A System Worth Saving, American Legion Magazine, May 2003 (from Committee on Government Reform, Minority Staff Report, May 2003)

"A Brief Guide to the Final Report," The President's Task Force to Improve Health Care for Our Nation's Veterans, p. 9. http://www.presidentshealthcare.org/pdffiles/IHCD_Short_Report_3rd.pdf

Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States. http://www.vfwdc.org/NLS/mandatorytp.htm

Oh, I musn't forget how the Pentagon tried to cut combat pay to the troops who are currently in Iraq:

Troops in Iraq face pay cut

Pentagon says tough duty bonuses are budget-buster

Edward Epstein, Chronicle Washington Bureau

Thursday, August 14, 2003

©2003 San Francisco Chronicle | Feedback

URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/08/14/MN94780.DTL

Washington -- The Pentagon wants to cut the pay of its 148,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, who are already contending with guerrilla-style attacks, homesickness and 120- degree-plus heat.

Unless Congress and President Bush take quick action when Congress returns after Labor Day, the uniformed Americans in Iraq and the 9,000 in Afghanistan will lose a pay increase approved last April of $75 a month in "imminent danger pay" and $150 a month in "family separation allowances."

The Defense Department supports the cuts, saying its budget can't sustain the higher payments amid a host of other priorities. But the proposed cuts have stirred anger among military families and veterans' groups and even prompted an editorial attack in the Army Times, a weekly newspaper for military personnel and their families that is seldom so outspoken.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/08/14/MN94780.DTL

Bush and his "tools" truely know how to support the troops Don't they Mr. Mahs??

Go on, fight the war in front of your computer (or read Dr. Seuss) and pretend everything is pure meat and potatos with savory gravy. Go on pretend Bush is perfect like he can do no wrong because when you finally awaken from your fantasy world and begin to smell the stench of reality it will be too late when he finally kills you and all of us by the time he's finished with his shit because my friend, you have no clue.

I can't wait to go home print this out and wipe my ass with your silly post... Ypu live in a fantasy world sucluded in your tiny hole and existance you call life... GET A REAL JOB LOOSER!!!!

[normalnoises]

Originally posted by mr mahs

I can't wait to go home print this out and wipe my ass with your silly post... Ypu live in a fantasy world sucluded in your tiny hole and existance you call life... GET A REAL JOB LOOSER!!!!

I win. Thank you. You simpleton nationalists pigs are soooo easy.

[mr mahs]

Originally posted by normalnoises

I win. Thank you. You simpleton nationalists pigs are soooo easy.

The only thing you won is the poster boy award for pulling out..

I am simpleton ??? :laugh:

Your brain fell out of your ass pipe a LONG time ago JACK

[igloo]

Originally posted by mr mahs

The only thing you won is the poster boy award for pulling out..

:laugh: ....so true

[normalnoises]

Poll: Majority of voters would not re-elect Bush

Yet president still has edge over main Democratic candidates

(CNN) --A poll released Saturday finds that more registered voters want to see President Bush voted out than kept in office in the next election, but his job approval rating has remained constant.

In the Newsweek poll, 50 percent of registered voters who were queried said they do not want to see Bush re-elected, while 44 percent said they do.

The survey of 1,002 adults interviewed Thursday and Friday has a margin of error of plus-or-minus 3 percentage points.

The president's overall approval rating in the survey was 52 percent -- the same it has been in previous polls by the magazine during the past two months.

But in the wake of more deaths of U.S. soldiers in Iraq and the rising price tag for occupation and reconstruction, 51 percent of the respondents said they disapprove of Bush's handling of Iraq -- the highest Newsweek's polls have ever shown -- while 42 percent said they approve.

The survey suggests mixed feelings on the president's economic policies, following positive news this week. Forty-four percent said they approve of the way Bush is handling the economy -- up six points from the magazine's previous poll a month ago. Forty-eight percent said they disapprove.

Among contenders for the Democratic presidential nomination, former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean edges out Gen. Wesley Clark in the poll. Sixteen percent of Democratic voters and those who lean Democratic said Dean would be their first choice, while 15 percent said Clark would be.

Rep. Dick Gephardt was third with 9 percent; followed by Sen. Joseph Lieberman at 8 percent; Sen. John Kerry and former Senator and Ambassador Carol Moseley Braun at 7 percent; Sen. John Edwards at 6 percent; the Rev. Al Sharpton at 4 percent; and Rep. Dennis Kucinich at 2 percent.

Asked about possible matchups between Bush and Clark, Dean, Kerry, Lieberman, and Gephardt, respondents gave Bush a 4 or 5 percent lead in each case.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/11/08/bush.poll/

By the way it looks, BUSH ISN'T BULLETPROOF AFTERALL!

So true

Originally posted by mr mahs

I am simpleton ???

YESH!

[marksimons]

yeah.

but more people voted for gore than bush.

and far more people didn't vote for bush than did.

democracy can be stolen

see here:

http://www.blackboxvoting.com

[xpyrate]

that some funny shit there normal

Originally posted by mr mahs

GDP is 7.2% best in 20 years..

unemployement 6% 300k jobs have been CREATED already (lagging indicator).

This recovery is all because of the reduction in TAX RATES AND REFUNDS....

No terrorist attack on U.S soil since 911(fingers crossed)

75% of Alqaeda leadership round up

Cutting off vital funding to terrorsit orginazations around the world....

Taking america security seriously instead of relying on a toothless world body...

BUSH IN 2004 IS BULLETPROOF

OK dunno bout the GDP thing ...

But correct my math but -3,200,000 + 300,000 = -2,900,000

Maybe Im wrong.

If this recovery has anything to do with Tax rebates etc. then the economic prosperity in the 90s had everything to do with Clintons policies. It's amazing how you deny the fact that Clintons economic policies have effect on the economy then claim Bushs' economic policies are so great.

During the 90s we had a total of how many civilian deaths due to terrorists?

When had our gov't taken our security as a joke?

Bush better have a bulletproof vest if I see him walking down the street

[thrillfire]

its funny when normalnoises posts these long arguements with bibliographies and links the people who oppose and insult him and his views don't even bother to read but just continue to insult him. Maybe if they read what it said and put the two and two together they'll have something more meaningful to bring to the debate rather than some childish insults they learned in middle school.

[normalnoises]

Originally posted by thrillfire

its funny when normalnoises posts these long arguements with bibliographies and links the people who oppose and insult him and his views don't even bother to read but just continue to insult him. Maybe if they read what it said and put the two and two together they'll have something more meaningful to bring to the debate rather than some childish insults they learned in middle school.

Exactly. It's good you observed that. It's the case of them being incapable of handling the truth even when I lay it right in front of them. The way I see it, when they childishly insult me especially when I shoot down everything they say only shows they have nothing to defend their words and nothing to back what they say and also shows how defenseless I left them and how immature they are means I already won the debate. Did Mr Mahs offer any facts, ie... statistics, charts, actual government documents, speeches, news articles from reliable sources, etc... to back his words? No. Only words and insults.

"Blind" nationalists can be quite immature and very ignorant.

"Meaningful" is beyond their limited vocabulary.

And xpyrate, thanx.

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Originally posted by mr mahs

I am simpleton ???

YESH!

[mrmatas2277]

Originally posted by xpyrate

It's amazing how you deny the fact that Clintons economic policies have effect on the economy then claim Bushs' economic policies are so great.

ur giving credit of "Partnership with America" (constructed mostly by a REPUBLICAN congress) to Clinton??

[mr mahs]

Originally posted by xpyrate

that some funny shit there normal

OK dunno bout the GDP thing ...

But correct my math but -3,200,000 + 300,000 = -2,900,000

Bro seriously from the bottom of my right leaning heart If you have NO CLUE what GDP is or that the latest reading of 7.2% was the best in 20 years, COMPLETELY attributed to tax cuts for individuals and business then youR argument holds no weight.. It sounds like you are just blinded by the un relentless hatred for the "Big Bad Republican" in office because of all your hippie freinds at your half gay university discuss it in the student lounge...

[xpyrate]

Originally posted by mr mahs

Bro seriously from the bottom of my right leaning heart If you have NO CLUE what GDP is or that the latest reading of 7.2% was the best in 20 years, COMPLETELY attributed to tax cuts for individuals and business then youR argument holds no weight.. It sounds like you are just blinded by the un relentless hatred for the "Big Bad Republican" in office because of all your hippie freinds at your half gay university discuss it in the student lounge...

honestly, who cares about the Gross National Product anyway, it only tells us how well the richie spoiled brats are doing anyway ... what about the rest of us?