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yes it cetainly helps if your rich and you have tons of extra cash to throw around, then you can get into any where, buy $5000 bottles of champagne, and have sex with fabulously beautiful prostitues... that's the beauty of South Beach, not every place in the country offers so many ways for rich people to waste their money, and nobody will look down on you if you have absolutely no class, as long as you've got the money, nobody here knows the difference anyway

my brother lives in SF and says they don't have those anti-guy door policies there, and most places usually end up with more girls than guys anyway, makes me wonder WTF is wrong with Miami... I think it's because all the native women are raised to believe that they have to try to be little princesses all the time, and they won't leave their house unless some guy is springing for fancy restaurant, valet parking, the whole 9 yards... then afterwards they'll go to the club, otherwise they just stay home and watch TV

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Originally posted by dgrutman

this is great stuff. all true. it sucks that opium wont let 4 dudes in. what is opium thinking? groups of guys should always be let in. 4 damn you should of brought 8 guys and they would of given you free bottle at those other clubs mentioned. come on guy you said it yourself you have contributed to club life for the last 8 years and you dont know the deal about rolling up with a crew of just dudes. i am sorry that the door guys didnt give you the respect that you deserved though.

There goes to tell you that @ Opium it aint about the music....... :rolleyes:

Shyt the only time I plan on going to Opium is if they bring back Hernan Cattaneo from Argentina.... :D

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Originally posted by eKiTeL

I think it's because all the native women are raised to believe that they have to try to be little princesses all the time, and they won't leave their house unless some guy is springing for fancy restaurant, valet parking, the whole 9 yards... then afterwards they'll go to the club, otherwise they just stay home and watch TV

90 percent of Miami women might as well be prostitutes...think about it! :idea:

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Yeah bro i had a hard time one night when i tried going in to see armin van buuren back in july and im standing at the gate right in front of him and he keesps looking over my shoulder and pulling other people past me, i was wtf, and he was no you're not coming in, luckily i went over to the other dude and he let me in no problem, yeah i know who u are talking about that piece of shit foreginer guy who couldnt really speak that much english, fuckin piece of shit, like two months after i went past him again on the way out and give him a nice push and the fag fell to the ground and got back up and didnt say anything, so much for that puke!!!

Damon 2.0

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it all boils down to which place you frequent. When they get to know you, it's smooth sailing to get in. Anyone remember those VIP passes that looked like credit cards? I had several, and all I did was frequent a place (during the week, so I would stand out more) for awhile, be really nice to the door men (whatever slut thinks she has to "play" to get in is an idiot), and in weeks I was IN baby! It's not rocket science.

However, whoever went with more than two guy friends...Couldn't you just ask a lady friend out, and buy her some drinks, divided between four guys? It would be an inexpensive investment on the guys part...

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It's just the way the system works, so work the system, YO!

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Originally posted by vaughanz

I had a great time and I had absolutely no problems at the door! :laugh:

I try and keep quiet about all this but it's time...

WAKE UP!!!

I don't hear anyone that dresses up and walks up with 4 hotties complaining... and when I go to "a place like Opium" I really am in strong favor of the ratio they got going on there!!!

I'm a dj and a promoter and I NEVER go to the door at ANY club "like Opium" with a train full of my buddies, unless I have a few Mr. Jacksons to hand the door guy...

Do I think it's good business????

HELL YEAH! And that's why there's a pool of guys trying to get in week in and week out; because there are soooo many beautiful people inside. There are different types of clubs and we all know what they are... don't go to a 5-Star restaurant and get pissed because there's no 99¢ value menu... And don't go to McDonalds and expect to eat off their best china!!!

Would it piss me off??? Yeah, but like I said, I would never put myself in that situation... I'd go to a bar and listen to some bedroom dj or jukebox with "my buddies" ...

And in defense of Nick... he personally stood outside and made absolutely certain his peeps were taken care of. He took very good care of several of my friends as well so I can say attest to it...

I am the resident dj there every Friday and I have tons of guy friends that would love to come.. and they do... but not without a truckful of women in tow! And when the list closes... it closes.. not my policy or Nick's... we just follow the rules... You people want something for free??/ No problem but there has to be terms.. come by 12:30 and you're in free... that easy! You want 39¢ Cheeseburgers... you had to go on Sunday! :D

Thanks Nick... Great party... and as always... Thanks Dave.. You Da Man! [/quote

I'm sure the event was very good, the reason why I wanted to go out in the first place is because I trust the people who brought the dj's + the people behind the event, etc... I understand I didn't get there on time...I offered to pay full cover and happily contribute to the event. It seems like you've never gone to an event to simply dance to the dj you like w/o having to worry 'bout the peace of ass in front of ya! I'm sure if you ever end up in a conversation with any house dj like Doc Martin, Danny T, Derrick Carter, or any dj that you might admire...you would never get caught saying such nonsense like you need this and that to listen to them play. You'd probably be like "Im all underground", and "its all about the music and dancing to your'e favorite dj" and shit. But I understant. You are deffending the institution you work for, your boss, and the people you want to sound good in-front of. Is okey meng... might not be your bag, not everyone has to agree. Some peeps feel me and I'm happy for that. Anywayz... I ended up going to crobar where like Saleen said....and hey, ended up talking to some important people + plus met a cool girl. So if things work out I won't have the same problem anymore. If they don't, I know lolahotass will escort me in next time. ;)

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Originally posted by vaughanz

I had a great time and I had absolutely no problems at the door! :laugh:

I try and keep quiet about all this but it's time...

WAKE UP!!!

I don't hear anyone that dresses up and walks up with 4 hotties complaining... and when I go to "a place like Opium" I really am in strong favor of the ratio they got going on there!!!

I'm a dj and a promoter and I NEVER go to the door at ANY club "like Opium" with a train full of my buddies, unless I have a few Mr. Jacksons to hand the door guy...

Do I think it's good business????

HELL YEAH! And that's why there's a pool of guys trying to get in week in and week out; because there are soooo many beautiful people inside. There are different types of clubs and we all know what they are... don't go to a 5-Star restaurant and get pissed because there's no 99¢ value menu... And don't go to McDonalds and expect to eat off their best china!!!

Would it piss me off??? Yeah, but like I said, I would never put myself in that situation... I'd go to a bar and listen to some bedroom dj or jukebox with "my buddies" ...

And in defense of Nick... he personally stood outside and made absolutely certain his peeps were taken care of. He took very good care of several of my friends as well so I can say attest to it...

I am the resident dj there every Friday and I have tons of guy friends that would love to come.. and they do... but not without a truckful of women in tow! And when the list closes... it closes.. not my policy or Nick's... we just follow the rules... You people want something for free??/ No problem but there has to be terms.. come by 12:30 and you're in free... that easy! You want 39¢ Cheeseburgers... you had to go on Sunday! :D

Thanks Nick... Great party... and as always... Thanks Dave.. You Da Man!

Couldn't say it any better. Thanks Vaughn. I had a great time. Met a lot of really nice people. The vibe was great and so was the music.

Best advice. Bring a chick or go solo. You'll have better luck at the door. Or find a hottie outside and tell her you'll buy her drink or two to walk in with you. You would be suprised how well it works. It's a new generation of clubing, IF you want to see your favorite Dj's, you better step up your game.

I grew up in SAn FRAn and the same shit goes on in clubs there too. Maybe not as extreme but what do you want? It' South Beach.

Peace

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Originally posted by fostech

It seems like you've never gone to an event to simply dance to the dj you like w/o having to worry 'bout the peace of ass in front of ya! I'm sure if you ever end up in a conversation with any house dj like Doc Martin, Danny T, Derrick Carter, or any dj that you might admire...you would never get caught saying such nonsense like you need this and that to listen to them play. You'd probably be like "Im all underground", and "its all about the music and dancing to your'e favorite dj" and shit. But I understant. You are deffending the institution you work for, your boss, and the people you want to sound good in-front of. Is okey meng... might not be your bag, not everyone has to agree. Some peeps feel me and I'm happy for that. Anywayz... I ended up going to crobar where like Saleen said....and hey, ended up talking to some important people + plus met a cool girl. So if things work out I won't have the same problem anymore. If they don't, I know lolahotass will escort me in next time. ;)

As I expected... you missed my point... "places like Opium" is the key phrase from my original post. I ended up at Crobar too... talked to some "important people":confused: and met a few girls... but all I was trying to say is that it is almost expected to have that type of "policy" at the door of "clubs like Opium".

And I COMPLETELY agree... it shouldn't be a hassel... and I've been everyhwere else in the world and Miami is the worst, but they all have "their Opium". I come from the "Old School" of being a dirty-stay-out with baggy pants driving to Ahhz in Orlando and Mars in Cocoa Beach and filling up 3 buses of "ravers" to go to Simon's Gemini party in '94 or Zen 1 & 2 and the list goes on. Meng... I've been to only 5 Rabbit shows, but I'm pretty sure I can relate. ;)

I am the guy who goes to Chicago with 11 of his buddies who are too cool for the clubs I like, so I hop in a cab and dance all night BY MYSELF to Derrick Carter... And also the same guy who goes to Vancouver and doesn't wanna deal with "the Opium" they have there so I hop in a cab BY MYSELF and dance all night to Jay Tripwire, so don't preach to the choir about all that crap.... So.... O.K. I'm bored now... Have a nice Sunday :D

The best part about life is... we have options... if we don't like something, we don't have to like it! PERIOD!

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Originally posted by fostech

But I understant. You are deffending the institution you work for, your boss, and the people you want to sound good in-front of. Is okey meng...

And not to beat a dead horse... ask ANYONE on this board who knows me, even "my boss" Dave... I don't kiss ass, or try and "sound good" for anyone... I just tell it like it is... I always go as far out of the way possible to take care of my friends... they come first. I have a very successful "day-job" which gives me the liberty to always know that "I don't NEED" any of this nightclub bullshit... I Love it... I love the music... and I love doing it, week in and week out for the past 14 years!

(and I'm the most aboveground underground person you'll EVER meet!) :laugh:

O' Doyle RULEZ!

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Originally posted by eKiTeL

yes it cetainly helps if your rich and you have tons of extra cash to throw around, then you can get into any where, buy $5000 bottles of champagne, and have sex with fabulously beautiful prostitues...

Beautiful prostitutes? Now THAT is an oxymoron :laugh: :laugh:

I'm with the rest of you who hate how the system works on South Beach and I feel what Fostech is saying and I'm sure the club owners and promoters did their best to accomodate everyone. The moral of the story is that you can't please everybody all the time.

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Originally posted by southof5th

it's simple folks....

one of my main friends is on the "guaranteed" entry list for EVERY hard-access spot on the beach: mynt, shoreclub, opium, pearl, tantra, bed.....

it's about tipping, tipping, tipping, establish a report with the doorman over time

instead of paying entry of $20 a head, give the doorman $20 x the number of people with you...after 3-4 times your set...you only pay the doorman after that and get comped the admission....

especially at places like mynt where you have just as many model type girls outside as inside...showing up with girls won't do give you an advantage...

I know many of you shun these places but just letting you know...

VERY TRUE!!!!

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i don't know why these people have to be such PRICKS !!!

Haven't they ever heard of common courtesy ??? Just the fact that you work in the industry should be your ticket in !!

Sorry to hear about the hastle !! You should come hang out at NV sometime,,,p.s. Bring some records ;)

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Originally posted by djbruno

i don't know why these people have to be such PRICKS !!!

Guys I have to interject here before this becomes a 'we hate the french doorman' thread.

Alerig @ Opium is a very cool door guy - I've worked with him several times now and he's always been very polite to all customers. You have to remember that he gets hundreds of people telling him that they're friends of the owner, or DJ's, or whatever, and if he doesn't know you the first time you attend the club it's really not his fault.

On Friday at 12.10, he actually asked everyone on the CoolJunkie list to raise their hands, and took care of everyone waiting so that they wouldn't have to pay full cover. We didn't ask him to do that, and it was a classy move.

The door guys don't set the rules, they're just asked to follow them. It's their job to balance the crowd, and if they didn't it would be their ass on the line.

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Things haven't changed much since I lived there, but such is life. At least we don't have to dree up like we used to. I must say though, you would think a club would want the business of more men, since they tend to spend the most money. Maybe there were just to many guys in there to begin with.

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For the most part, what Nick said is true, the doorguys just enforce policy, they don't write it. No club really gives the doormen "freedom" anymore unless they're Fabrizio or Doorman Gilbert (old-school), in that case the doormen telll the club what's what...Opium's door crew is merely doing what the managment wants...example, check Opium during WMC, and if the Opium guys are handling door, it's quite different.

I've dealt with the Opium door on a business and "normal going out" level...in both instances, I go there solo or with 1 girl. If guy friends ask to come along, I tell them that it will make things worse, and to just show up on their own, or with girls...not only applies to Opium, but any club with a pick-and-choose door...just got to be crafty. :cool:

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