HAZE Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Is it safe? What are the side effects? Recommended dosage?Anything would be helpful.Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ou812 Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Can't remember the exact dosage. Only is effective for 2 weeks, then you should lay off it, wait for 2 weeks, then cycle again.Biggest side effects are nausea and headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknojunkee Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 Just started it.2 weeks on 2 weeks off. I have the Oral Syrup with the dropper. I take 1/4 of the dropper now in my first days.Side effects NAUSEA NERVOUSNESS DIZZINESS DROWSINESS DRY MOUTH FACIAL FLUSHING HEADACHE HEARTBURN INCREASED BLOOD PRESSURE INCREASED SWEATING INSOMNIA LIGHTHEADEDNESS MUSCLE CRAMPS TREMORS VOMITING CHEST PAIN I must add I havent gotten these except for the tremors. My hands are shaking like a bitch. I feel kinda whacked. Like I did a fat line or something (not exactly a bad feeling).This is how im doing it. I was told by a few people at my gym this is the BEST WAY. The only thing Diff im doing is not moving up to 100mcg's. Im sticking with the 80. The stuff I have is 200mcg/ML. I have 5 bottles of 30ML.Day1: 20mcg Day2: 40mcg Day3: 60mcg Day4: 80mcg Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable) Day6-Day12: 100mcg Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to normal gradually) Day14: 60 mcgs Day15: off Day16: off Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack You really just gotta start off slow and see how you react to it. I actually feel pretty good (aside from the tremors). I shake to begin with so this will be easy to get used to.If you need more info let me know. This guy wrote me a whole page of stuff about it and ephedrine and DNP. I can send you the email.Tek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandora1305 Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 better than stackers stuff made my heart POUND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknojunkee Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 Todays symptoms are Cramps and Sweating...not too bad though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandora1305 Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 train hardstick with your dietthen get ready to smile at your reflection and that diesel 6pack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtiddles Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 what exactly does Clenbuterol do (physiologically)..besides the side effects already stated? What's the main goal in taking it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystify Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 ughh I tried it for 2 days and stopped. I got HORRIBLE headaches, couldn't sleep, and felt like my body was on fire, all sweaty Never again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismakk69 Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 Originally posted by Mystify22 ughh I tried it for 2 days and stopped. I got HORRIBLE headaches, couldn't sleep, and felt like my body was on fire, all sweaty Never again! I did it for 2 weeks and stacked it with T3. I could take it anymore, I got insane headaches and felt like total shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystify Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 I might be trying 1/2 of a T3......still researching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaydup Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Tek -- Where did you get the NYC, they stoped making itMyst -- Do not use T3!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystify Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elitesnautica Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Originally posted by Mystify22 I might be trying 1/2 of a T3......still researching it. Early clinical studies showed an negative long lasting effect of exogenous T3 and T4 on thyroid production. Current studies have shown that the thyroid is a remarkable organ that can and will recover.ramp up and down with low doses and it will work wonders. There are some wieght loss clinics that practice a technique called "running hot" it seems to be very effective and safe with a docs supervision.Make sure and increase your protein intake,as you will burn protein extremely fast, and you don't want it to come from muscle.There are many benefits of increase levels of T3. Decrease chances for heart attacks and strokes and most important for healthy females is lower blood calcium levels through production of bone, which greatly reduces the chances of osteoporosis.NOTE: I said this was safe with a docs supervision.Nautica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elitesnautica Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 ONE MORE NOTE: I looked at your pic again, you do not need any wieght loss products.Nautica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknojunkee Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 This guy at my gym has a shit load.Lost 11lbs Since Sat March 6th.No more side effects besides the shaking (which I can deal with).This sat will be my 2 weeks then a 2 week break.Tek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ou812 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Yeah Alicia, you looked fine last week. Please don't start popping Cytomels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystify Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 Originally posted by elitesnautica Early clinical studies showed an negative long lasting effect of exogenous T3 and T4 on thyroid production. Current studies have shown that the thyroid is a remarkable organ that can and will recover.ramp up and down with low doses and it will work wonders. There are some wieght loss clinics that practice a technique called "running hot" it seems to be very effective and safe with a docs supervision.Make sure and increase your protein intake,as you will burn protein extremely fast, and you don't want it to come from muscle.There are many benefits of increase levels of T3. Decrease chances for heart attacks and strokes and most important for healthy females is lower blood calcium levels through production of bone, which greatly reduces the chances of osteoporosis.NOTE: I said this was safe with a docs supervision.Nautica Thank you so much for your always informative posts!!! I was considering doing a very small amount.....1/2 a pill a day...maybe a week on, a week off....So you feel it would be good to just increase protein intake....or overall daily caloric intake?Ou812....lol oh my god, when I saw you I was FUMING....we had already waited all day for our room, didn't get them next door to eachother, then the fckn room key NEVER worked....and you wait in that damn line! UGH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elitesnautica Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 When you say 1/2 pill. How many mcg's are you talking about.Also, with T3, you do not want to go on and off. The up and down can reak havoc on your thyroid.Start off low, up it to a max amount and run that for about a month or so, then lower it back down to the original amount until you eventually come off.Also, notice that I am not giving you exact amounts. That is where the doc and blood test come into play. But, if you insist on doing this without a doc, then maybe take that 1/2 pill a day down to 1/4 then slowly work you way up. If you feel extra gittery or are having trouble sleeping back down a bit.If you want me to find out the recommended doses for you size, I will, but it will only be an estimate and will never take the place of a doc.Nautica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incredulous Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 what is T3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elitesnautica Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 T3 is a thyroid hormone, it increases the bodies metabolism and regulates the release of calcitonin, which lowers blood calcium levels by initiating the action of osteoblast, which in turn manufacture bone.Nautica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyies Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Is this RedZone the same? http://www.elitesportsproducts.com/red_zone.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ou812 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Originally posted by keyies Is this RedZone the same? http://www.elitesportsproducts.com/red_zone.htm No, it's and OTC supplement, it has no Clen or clen derivatives in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elitesnautica Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 How can one even read that and think it works. P ditty's rap songs have more scientific jargon in them, then that advertisment does.If a company replaces how a chemical works with fancy "advertisement" words, then it most likely does not work.How many adverstisements do you have to see to believe that steroids work??? None. That is b/c they work. Not that I am advocating AAS, but I hope you can see my point.Nautica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystify Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Originally posted by incredulous what is T3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyies Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Sorry, I'm very ignorant when it comes to these sort of things. Can either one of you recommend one that does work (of course used in conjunction with exercise). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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