silvernrgy985 Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 Hip hop these days has no moral value at all. At one point in time it told a story of how things were for the artist, and what they went through to get where they are. Now it doesn't, most of it is pure ignorant noise. Not to play the racial card or anything but I will say that the increasing popularity of bullshit hip hop in my eyes just makes all black people look like shuckin & jiveing coons. It is not the image that was once portrayed by rap artist. If you notice, any intelligent portrayal of us in hip hop has been silenced, ie: Arrested Development, De La Soul, Common, Digable Planets and so forth. The only thing you hear all day long is ignorant shit like the wisper song, and songs like that, that make us look like fools, and people love that shit. yep i so agree with this statement, and i believe that the hip hop that once lived back in the days is truly dead, in todays world Hip Hop or "rap" is nothing more then money,greed,cars, the gangzta hip hop influence on suburbia, "bitches shakin their asses" in music videos,... of course there are lyricists/hip hop artists i still listen to today but the majority is garbage, its as though they have completely rejected most of the hip hop elements such as the dancing and Bboyin'.... and it bothers me to see that people listen and buy into this fake idealistic image of what hip hop really is about. with that said i checked out a couple of those videos that was posted on another thread on here about House music which i thought was very interesting, although i listen to almost every genre of EDM, lookin back at those videos it reminded me of back in the days and how i used to listen and wonder what it was (they would also put some house tracks on video games)and how much i liked it at a very young age when some of my older siblings were listenin to some of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrica Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 Actually, was in NYC for the first time ever about 6 weeks ago... I LOVED IT!!! Can't wait to go back!!! ;D~h~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~www.myspace.com/intrica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaveom Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 look how much europe has commercialized house and trance.....and look how much they spend on big house/trance events like Climax, Q-base, Inner City, Defqon and even the Parades. These events draw close from 20k to 35k per event at like 50 bucks a head compared to the spending here. I only experienced the Parade in Germany in 01 and Qbase last year. And i couldnt believe how much money was spent on the shows, lights, system , decour ....millions.if u commercialize the music, there is more to be made for both artists as well as expanding the nightlife experience by hosting such events that we cant do here in NYC or else. But for some resason i still cant imagine this happening here in US, i mean look what hip hop did........now u got talentless people who cant even speak right or prob didnt even finish 6th grade making records that should be burned the minute they get pressed....fucking sad90% of people are like sheep who follow anything that tv or radio tells them too,thats one of my views about this topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylab Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 great topic.. question thoughif house music became commercialized.. would you still listen to it? everything you liked suddenly everyone else liked and is always on the radio.. what would you think of it all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slymie Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 the house you know and love today actually grew from Techno...... Infact Derrick May sold his 909 to Frankie Knuckles when he couldnt afford his rent while living in Chicago........ before then they were using 808's and playing reel to reel tapes of personal edits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slymie Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 for an awesome read on the history of house and techno from some of the creators, check out this article:http://pitchforkmedia.com/features/weekly/05-11-28-house-and-techno.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylab Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 I believe "House music" is also on wikipedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiewoodside Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 If House music becomes commercialized by the corporate big-wigs, then I say F' that shit! If it becomes mainstream by 'the people' from a result of quality music, then I'm all for it. Why?If the people help it grow, then we will have more control of the direction it will go. If the corporations get their hands on it then we have no say. Just look at what happended to hip-hop and punk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylab Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 theres always something negative with every genre...dance music = drugship-hop/rap = violentrock/emo = killing themself.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppanils Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 If House music becomes commercialized by the corporate big-wigs, then I say F' that shit! If it becomes mainstream by 'the people' from a result of quality music, then I'm all for it. Why?If the people help it grow, then we will have more control of the direction it will go. If the corporations get their hands on it then we have no say. Just look at what happended to hip-hop and punk.a lot of house is already commercialized. look at the european market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiewoodside Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 a lot of house is already commercialized. look at the european market.I'm talking about here in the states. They do things differently over there. People are different. The politics are different. The Market is different. I wish it could be like that over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbull Posted December 13 Author Report Share Posted December 13 also house music/dance music is different over here in the states depending on what scene your into. I know personally the picture in the first post scares me. I wouldnt want to see one of my fave djs or producers lposing like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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