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dgmodel Posted January 5 Author Report Share Posted January 5 Blogger grounded by her airline By Jo Twist BBC News Online science and technology reporter Ellen Simonetti posed in her uniform for her blog A US airline attendant is fighting for her job after she was suspended over postings on her blog, or online diary. Queen of the Sky, otherwise known as Ellen Simonetti, evolved into an anonymous semi-fictional account of life in the sky. But after she posted pictures of herself in uniform, Delta Airlines suspended her indefinitely without pay. Ms Simonetti was told her suspension was a result of "inappropriate" images. Delta Airlines declined to comment. Complaint lodged "I was really shocked, I had no warning," Ms Simonetti told BBC News Online. "I never thought I would get in trouble because of the blog. I thought if they had a problem, someone would have said something before taking action." The issue has highlighted concerns amongst the growing blogging community about conflicts of interest, employment law and free speech on personal websites. Ms Simonetti was suspended on 25 September pending an investigation and has since lodged a complaint with the US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC). A spokesperson for Delta Airlines told BBC News Online: "All I can tell you is we do not discuss internal employee issues with the media." She added she could not say whether a similar situation over personal websites had occurred in the past. 'Blog for fun' Ms Simonetti started her personal blog in January to help her get over her mother's death. She had ensured she made no mention of which airline she worked for, and created fictional names for cities and companies. The airline's name was changed to Anonymous Airline and the city in which she was based was called Quirksville. A large part of the blog contained fictional stories because Queen of the Sky developed over the months as a character in her own right, according to Ms Simonetti. This blogging thing is obviously a new problem for employers and they need to get a policy about it. If I had known it would cost me my job, I would not have done that Ellen Simonetti The images were taken from a digital camera she had inherited from her mother. "We often take pictures on flight or on layovers. I just though why not include them on my blog for fun. "I never meant it as something to harm my company and don't understand how they think it did harm them," Ms Simonetti said. She has also claimed that pictures of male Delta Airline employees in uniform are freely available on the web. Of the 10 or so images on the site, only one showed Ms Simonetti's flight "wings". "They did not tell me which pictures they had a problem with. I am just assuming it was the one of me posing on seats where my skirt rode up," she said. The images were removed as soon as she learned she had been suspended. As far as Ms Simonetti knows, there is no company anti-blogging policy. There is guidance which suggests the company uniform cannot be used without approval from management, but use in personal pictures on websites is unclear. 'Hazardous sites' Jeffrey Matsuura, director of the law and technology programme at the University of Dayton, said personal websites can be hazardous for both employers and their employees. "There are many examples of employees who have presented some kind of material online that have gotten them in trouble with employers," he said. It was crucial that any policy about what was and what was not acceptable was expressed clearly, was reasonable, and enforced fairly in company policy. "You have to remember that as an employee, you don't have total free speech anymore," he said. Mr Matsuura added that some companies actively encouraged employees to blog. "One of the areas where it does become a problem is that they encourage this when it suits them, but they may not be particularly clear when they [employees] do cross the line." He speculated that Delta might be concerned that the fictional content on the blog may be linked back to the airline after the images of Ms Simonetti in uniform were posted. "Whether or not that is successful will depend on what exactly is prohibited, and whether you can reasonably say this content now crosses that line," he said. Ms Simonetti said her suspension has caused two of her friends to discontinue their blogs. One of them was asked to stop blogging by his company before any action was taken. "If they had asked me just take down the blog, I would have done it, but that was not been given to me as an option," she said. "This blogging thing is obviously a new problem for employers and they need to get a policy about it. If I had known it would cost me my job, I would not have done that." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolahotass Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 That sucks for her.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misk Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 ...maybe if she wasn't such a fucking loser telling stories to her cyber friends...she would still have a job.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funks0ul Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 ...maybe if she wasn't such a fucking loser telling stories to her cyber friends...she would still have a job.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomicapples Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 whats her blog website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therunner Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 whats her blog website?www.stupidairlineattendentlosesjob.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funks0ul Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 http://queenofsky.journalspace.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghhhhhost Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 u r the queen of the internet!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therunner Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 I'm with delta. - I think - I would like to know if there is a company policy that states she can't do what she did. But I am pretty sure there is something in there that says you can't disrespect the uniform and being in the army long enough I have found that disrespect is in the eye of the disrespected. Abd usually those who file disrespect have rank and athority over you so the claim is automatically accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsamurai Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 ...maybe if she wasn't such a fucking loser telling stories to her cyber friends...she would still have a job....as opposed to people who post on message boards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbooty Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 People, blogs = free speech. They also equal therapy and escape for many of us, not to mention new friendships and cyber-community. There are more bloggers in the world than there are employers (or there will be soon). Bloggers are not only employees, but customers as well. We must stand up for ourselves. We WILL be heard.Here is the rough draft of my bloggers’ bill of rights:---------------------------------------------------------------International Bloggers’ Bill of RightsWe, the inhabitants of the Blogosphere, do hereby proclaim that bloggers everywhere are entitled to the following basic rights:FREEDOM TO BLOG.FREEDOM FROM PERSECUTION AND RETALIATION BECAUSE OF OUR BLOGS:1.) If an employer wishes to discipline an employee because of his/her blog, it must first establish clear-cut blogging policies and distribute these to all of its employees.2.) Blogging employees shall be given warning before being disciplined because of their blogs.3.) NO ONE shall be fired because of his/her blog, unless the employer can prove that the blogger did intentional damage to said employer through the blog. I agree wi' Runner t' a point, that t' disresespect th' uniform openly cannot be tolerated, but thar be a fine line between what one lackey perceives as disrespect an' another sees a swabbie talkin' about her life an' lettin' blog readers be seein' what they's do fer a living. I hold that th' company has a right t' tell her t' remove th' uniform photo from her blog, but that it must give fair warning, an' go by th' blog writer`s 3 rules o' expectation that she wrote above. Arrrrrr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatman Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 as opposed to people who post on message boardsas opposed to people who take sarcastic posts seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbooty Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Originally Posted by misk...maybe if she wasn't such a fucking loser telling stories to her cyber friends...she would still have a job....as opposed to people who post on message boardsWord, matey. As if we wankers don`t spend too much time on this board when we`re supposed t' be working. Th' servin' wench wasn`t doin' a Playboy pictorial in her uniform, she just posted a photo o' her at work. Big fuckin' deal. Th' airlines be havin' t' pull th' corn cob out o' the'r bums an' lighten up a wee bit. P.S. Arrrrrrr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsamurai Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 as opposed to people who take sarcastic posts seriouslyi'm sorry but this kind of talk hurts my cyber feelings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomembername Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Word, matey. As if we wankers don`t spend too much time on this board when we`re supposed t' be working. what the fuck you talking about....you have 18 fucking post only! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkornre Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 what the fuck you talking about....you have 18 fucking post only!why are u yelling at urself??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomembername Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 why are u yelling at urself???pretty expensive "bat boy" the mets are going after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkornre Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 pretty expensive "bat boy" the mets are going after u know damn well they wont capitalize on that...franco needs a new arm...they will help him out first before spending money on a new franchise player... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funks0ul Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 u r the queen of the internet!!Thank You! wtf is up with captainbooty and all the 's he's using... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbooty Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Thank You! wtf is up with captainbooty and all the 's he's using...Sorry lass. Tis be th way I talk. I was raised with no mammy or pappy so's pirate speak came natural t' me. I be tryin to speaken gooder for yu m' dear. nomembername 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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deepspell Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Sorry lass. Tis be th way I talk. I was raised with no mammy or pappy so's pirate speak came natural t' me. I be tryin to speaken gooder for yu m' dear.lmfao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted January 5 Author Report Share Posted January 5 u r the queen of the internet!!i thought i was silly... but on a sidenote id hit this after a few drinks: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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