*sigh* Yeah I saw in the guide that my mom gave me that those two places were billed as the uber-trendy spots to hit up - which immediately signalled me to stay far, far away. I'll take your advice. BTW - are there any small lounge type places around there that I could spin at? I see that as being more my scene than the big tourist traps. Joe, you'll have to pardon my spelling errors - I was home for lunch break and typing furiously as possible lol. mg, mb... whatever... m + consonant, u know what i meant lol