saintjsc Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 there going to cut off pee-pee stan!the fireman has very magical powers, when you rub his helmet he spits in your eye "when living in your own skin got to be yourself ..and nobody's else..." hehehehjsc (the CUT 7" edit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarioNY Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Originally posted by ichi_gami:ichi - willing to judge an appearance and sensitivity contest Great idea. Let me be your first model please. We can take pictures of my cock soft and then some more of my cock hard. We can post the before and after pics on this thread. Whattaya think???Oooh...forgot about the sensitivy part. How are we gonna test that? Do you have any ideas? And would you like to be the model for a circumcised penis?------------------ MarioNY.comAOL:ZOMBLA[This message has been edited by MarioNY (edited 03-30-2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueangel Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Originally posted by MarioNY: Great idea. Let me be your first model please. We can take pictures of my cock soft and then some more of my cock hard. We can post the before and after pics on this thread. Whattaya think???Sound like a wonderful idea, Mario!! Next dinner meet-up! I'll bring the camera! BlueAngel ------------------“I shall allow no man to belittle my soul by making me hate him.” — Booker T. Washington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichi_gami Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Originally posted by MarioNY: Great idea. Let me be your first model please. We can take pictures of my cock soft and then some more of my cock hard. We can post the before and after pics on this thread. Whattaya think???Oooh...forgot about the sensitivy part. How are we gonna test that? Do you have any ideas? And would you like to be the model for a circumcised penis?As judge, I cum up with the competition rules... You get treated like a piece of meat, and maybe, at the end if you are good enough, you get a rhinestone tiara. Or if you are bad enough, a pearl necklace. I'd offer to model for the circumcized penis, but I have to keep the 8" rumor alive. It just wouldn't do to let my little secret out.ichi. ------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David-Marvisi Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Yo WTF! I was born in the good ol United States and I'm not circumsized. Do all american males who are born in the states automatically get circumsized or how does that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsadc69 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Originally posted by blueangel: I can't believe you're using porn movies to judge what looks NORMAL. ha. again you misconstrue. and again it pisses me off. i believe roadrunner is arguing the aesthetic of the "cut" penis versus the "uncut" penis. unfortunately, i didn't realize until Mario's post that a hard uncut is virtually identical in appearance to a hard cut. so in that sense, yes, roadrunner may be wrong. i don't know for sure.but look at what you're doing, for christ's sake. you don't even allow consideration of any topic (never mind an actual opinion) that is slightly non-PC, even if it's for a logical, intellectual argument. and you can go ahead and misconstrue that too, but we're using logic here, and roadrunner is the only one who seems to see that.you just keep taking what people say out of context, and using their statements against them. roadrunner made no implicit or explicit promotion for porn, he was just using porn as an aesthetic because it levels the playing field. (most people have seen porn and thus are familiar with the depiction of male and female genitalia as it pertains to pornographic material.) and since people PAY for porn (yes, it does happen), they must like the way that male and female genitalia is portrayed in such films. so yes, in aesthetic terms, porn is not necessarily NORMAL (in terms of what you might see if you pulled down your next-door neighbors pants), but that wasn't what he was arguing. porn is, to those who buy it, and i would assume to even those who don't buy it, a film genre to which, watching alone, we would not be opposed. thus it applies to our own lives: we are conditioned to expect a certain something when we go south, and if that certain something looks somewhat different than we expect, who's going to say, "Oh my god, that's the best looking ____ i've ever seen?"... because what appeals to the human eye and mind is a continuation of an aesthetic and not a digression, and this applies to genitalia just like it applies to the body as a whole.just think with your head sometimes. consider what people say and don't jump at those "red-flag" words. you want to know what's really PC? accepting that as much as you may hate to admit it, other people may have a point too. and it's your duty as self-appointed torchbearer for the PC parade to allow everyone to make those points, which i think roadrunner did well (notwithstanding his slip, it it really was a slip, about a hard cut penis looking different than a hard uncut one).thanks.logan.~------------------ "Happy the man, and happy he alone, he who can call today his own, he who, secure within, can say, 'Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have liv'd today'." - Horace"Be excellent to each other." - Rufus"Para no morir, tiene que bailar." - Ricky Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back2basics- Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Originally posted by lmsadc69: ha. again you misconstrue. and again it pisses me off. i believe roadrunner is arguing the aesthetic of the "cut" penis versus the "uncut" penis. unfortunately, i didn't realize until Mario's post that a hard uncut is virtually identical in appearance to a hard cut. so in that sense, yes, roadrunner may be wrong. i don't know for sure.but look at what you're doing, for christ's sake. you don't even allow consideration of any topic (never mind an actual opinion) that is slightly non-PC, even if it's for a logical, intellectual argument. and you can go ahead and misconstrue that too, but we're using logic here, and roadrunner is the only one who seems to see that.you just keep taking what people say out of context, and using their statements against them. roadrunner made no implicit or explicit promotion for porn, he was just using porn as an aesthetic because it levels the playing field. (most people have seen porn and thus are familiar with the depiction of male and female genitalia as it pertains to pornographic material.) and since people PAY for porn (yes, it does happen), they must like the way that male and female genitalia is portrayed in such films. so yes, in aesthetic terms, porn is not necessarily NORMAL (in terms of what you might see if you pulled down your next-door neighbors pants), but that wasn't what he was arguing. porn is, to those who buy it, and i would assume to even those who don't buy it, a film genre to which, watching alone, we would not be opposed. thus it applies to our own lives: we are conditioned to expect a certain something when we go south, and if that certain something looks somewhat different than we expect, who's going to say, "Oh my god, that's the best looking ____ i've ever seen?"... because what appeals to the human eye and mind is a continuation of an aesthetic and not a digression, and this applies to genitalia just like it applies to the body as a whole.just think with your head sometimes. consider what people say and don't jump at those "red-flag" words. you want to know what's really PC? accepting that as much as you may hate to admit it, other people may have a point too. and it's your duty as self-appointed torchbearer for the PC parade to allow everyone to make those points, which i think roadrunner did well (notwithstanding his slip, it it really was a slip, about a hard cut penis looking different than a hard uncut one).thanks.logan.~Leave logic to Dr. Spock, he is much better at it than you.Oh and leave the Ricky martin quotes at home ,just a joke.I disagree TOTALLY with your logic. People don't see porn as what is real, they see it as a fantasy. Anybody who beleives porn is real needs help. And by YOUR logic, it only works if that person has never seen a penis before at all then they MAY (if stupid) think that every penis looks like that.Your argument makes no sence, you started ranting and getting yourself confused. Tell me if you want me to tear it up and show you what i mean.You will be telling us Ricky Martin is straight next... and no there is nothing wrong with him being gay before you get on your high horse.------------------I want to go out blazing..not fade away.Trust in the currency of relationships, it's hard to earn but easy to loose - back2basics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastyt Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Originally posted by back2basics-: You will be telling us Ricky Martin is straight next... and no there is nothing wrong with him being gay before you get on your high horse.LOL!!! (Anyone who's seen the episode of Seinfeld) "Not that there's anything wrong with it..."But i say i really don't follow his reasoning either... ------------------I never try anything, I just do it... Wanna try me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsadc69 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Originally posted by back2basics-: Leave logic to Dr. Spock, he is much better at it than you.Oh and leave the Ricky martin quotes at home ,just a joke.I disagree TOTALLY with your logic. People don't see porn as what is real, they see it as a fantasy. Anybody who beleives porn is real needs help. And by YOUR logic, it only works if that person has never seen a penis before at all then they MAY (if stupid) think that every penis looks like that.Your argument makes no sence, you started ranting and getting yourself confused. Tell me if you want me to tear it up and show you what i mean.You will be telling us Ricky Martin is straight next... and no there is nothing wrong with him being gay before you get on your high horse.i'll leave all the dumb one-liners alone. just wondering if you know spanish, by the way (i figure you must) - i thought that of all my quotes the ricky martin one would be the quote that would strike a chord with everyone here. oh well. that's pretty depressing.getting to other business - i never said porn is real. please reread. i said porn sets up an aesthetic ideal - like you said, a fantasy. for it to be a fantasy it has to be aesthetically pleasing - otherwise it would be called a nightmare or whatever the opposite of fantasy is. also note that i never said people actually THINK penises in general are of the girth and length that are typically found in porn. that's why porn actors are porn actors - they are well-endowed. however, i did say that typically in a relationship one will experience a departure from that "fantasy" or that aesthetic ideal. which is to say, you're actually 100% wrong in your interpretation of my remarks. please reread.also note that my remarks were intended more to point out the way others (and one person in particular) ride around on their "high horses." please consider me the imp that slashes the legs of the horse so its rider tumbles to the ground, instead of a rider of a high horse myself. also, finally - and i just couldn't leave it alone - i am the absolute LAST person who would ever take offense to the ricky martin "gay" joke. it served your purpose well, and so i applaud its usage. but you better watch your back. blueangel is around here somewhere...~------------------ "Happy the man, and happy he alone, he who can call today his own, he who, secure within, can say, 'Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have liv'd today'." - Horace"Be excellent to each other." - Rufus"Para no morir, tiene que bailar." - Ricky Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastyt Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 99% of the time I REALLY wouldn't consider porno actors to be aesthetic "ideals." The fantasy is more about what they are doing, not quite as much as how they look- a large percent of them are butt-ugly or skanky IMHO. Circumsiced or no I wouldn't want most of those men coming near me! Or many of the women either!------------------I never try anything, I just do it... Wanna try me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back2basics- Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Originally posted by lmsadc69: i'll leave all the dumb one-liners alone. just wondering if you know spanish, by the way (i figure you must) - i thought that of all my quotes the ricky martin one would be the quote that would strike a chord with everyone here. oh well. that's pretty depressing.getting to other business - i never said porn is real. please reread. i said porn sets up an aesthetic ideal - like you said, a fantasy. for it to be a fantasy it has to be aesthetically pleasing - otherwise it would be called a nightmare or whatever the opposite of fantasy is. also note that i never said people actually THINK penises in general are of the girth and length that are typically found in porn. that's why porn actors are porn actors - they are well-endowed. however, i did say that typically in a relationship one will experience a departure from that "fantasy" or that aesthetic ideal. which is to say, you're actually 100% wrong in your interpretation of my remarks. please reread.also note that my remarks were intended more to point out the way others (and one person in particular) ride around on their "high horses." please consider me the imp that slashes the legs of the horse so its rider tumbles to the ground, instead of a rider of a high horse myself. also, finally - and i just couldn't leave it alone - i am the absolute LAST person who would ever take offense to the ricky martin "gay" joke. it served your purpose well, and so i applaud its usage. but you better watch your back. blueangel is around here somewhere...~Yeh i do know roughly what it means, i speak a little Spanish it means you must dance not to die or somthing very similar. But it's Mexican not Spanish i am sure you know there are many differances, Ricky is Mexican not Spanish.Just a few notes Asthetics and size have nothing in common to most people.Some people's fantasy is to have a huge dick some don't. But your just confusing the issue with lots crap. Blueangle just said ...."I can't believe you're using porn movies to judge what looks NORMAL. "And most people don't, but your trying to justify it now, by going on and on about asthetic ideals, and ideal could be a fantasy or not but either way it's not what NORMAL is. But you did a good job of making a simple argument complicated.Anyway enough, just when you came on strong with the big words i like the sound of my own voice. People will tell you, no offence.------------------I want to go out blazing..not fade away.Trust in the currency of relationships, it's hard to earn but easy to loose - back2basics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsadc69 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Originally posted by tastyt:99% of the time I REALLY wouldn't consider porno actors to be aesthetic "ideals." The fantasy is more about what they are doing, not quite as much as how they look- a large percent of them are butt-ugly or skanky IMHO. i agree in general - yes they're not the most attractive people, but aren't the important parts closer to an ideal? i mean obviously there's appeal in the action of the movie ("what they're doing"), but all the men are pretty well-endowed... just something to think about.~------------------ "Happy the man, and happy he alone, he who can call today his own, he who, secure within, can say, 'Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have liv'd today'." - Horace"Be excellent to each other." - Rufus"Para no morir, tiene que bailar." - Ricky Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rose1722 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Umm my boyfriend is not circumcised and it's fine He told me he "needed" to have it circumcised but I didn't let him. I guess he can't really use the health risk factor now cause now I know it's not really that much different. Even better it sounds like it was for the best not to have it circumcised because it's more sensitive! He'll be glad to hear that and I'm glad he didn't have it done. Either way it's fine but I rather have him keep it as it is! Tomochan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsadc69 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Originally posted by back2basics-: Yeh i do know roughly what it means, i speak a little Spanish it means you must dance not to die or somthing very similar. But it's Mexican not Spanish i am sure you know there are many differances, Ricky is Mexican not Spanish.Just a few notes Asthetics and size have nothing in common to most people.Some people's fantasy is to have a huge dick some don't. But your just confusing the issue with lots crap. Blueangle just said ...."I can't believe you're using porn movies to judge what looks NORMAL. "And most people don't, but your trying to justify it now, by going on and on about asthetic ideals, and ideal could be a fantasy or not but either way it's not what NORMAL is. But you did a good job of making a simple argument complicated.Anyway enough, just when you came on strong with the big words i like the sound of my own voice. People will tell you, no offence.no no no... i just can't leave this alone.btw, yes ricky is mexican, and the language spoken in mexico is spanish. the quote literally means, "In order not to die, one must dance." means the same thing in mexico as it does in spain and guatemala and ecuador and argentina and puerto rico... all spanish-speaking countries.sorry for making an easy argument complicated - all that i was trying to do was explore both perspectives - sorry - views. see, underlying blueangel's off-point chastisement of roadrunner is this snide little statement that "Porn is disgusting, you shouldn't watch porn, people should be happy with their bodies." it's in there, trust me. and so i objected, because neither roadrunner or i ever said porn was normal. never. ever. i'll say it again. i never said porn was normal or what one would expect to see. i did say that we are conditioned in some ways by porn, some people to a greater degree than others. so my only argument in that respect was that blueangel interpreted what roadrunner said wrong, like she tends to do every time she gets heated. look at some of her other replies. you'll notice that sort of a current throughout. in the process, i was accomplishing a second goal - defending roadrunner's statement about an aesthetic ideal. sorry if the words are too big, but that's what you get, it's the only way i know how to write. i, again, apologize for complicating the argument, although no apology should be necessary - it's you who ignorantly bashes because you don't understand, instead of bashing logically, which i would love.and i have no clue what that last part of your message means (starting with "anyway enough"). you like the sound of your own voice? that's a little pompous. maybe you meant i like the sound of my own voice. only i'm typing. anyway, please try to express yourself in coherent english sentences or something, it's really hard to figure out sometimes yet you still say that you express things more clearly.thanks. back from dinner in a few~------------------ "Happy the man, and happy he alone, he who can call today his own, he who, secure within, can say, 'Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have liv'd today'." - Horace"Be excellent to each other." - Rufus"Para no morir, tiene que bailar." - Ricky Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichi_gami Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Originally posted by lmsadc69: no no no... i just can't leave this alone.Ditto. btw, yes ricky is mexican, and the language spoken in mexico is spanish. the quote literally means, "In order not to die, one must dance." means the same thing in mexico as it does in spain and guatemala and ecuador and argentina and puerto rico... all spanish-speaking countries.WRONG, dead wrong. Mexican Spanish is very different from the original Spanish, just as most Central and South American dialects are. Quebecquois French is not French, any more than Cajun is French, or Creole is French. It may be similar, and have a common romance root, but the ltongues are so greatly different, it is astounding. Very few Spanish people I know can understand 100% of what Hispanic people are saying, and vice versa, not just from my experience, but from what those who speak the languages say. (I do NOT speak Spanish, I speak some French, and poorly at that.)If you are going to generalize, then you may as well say that people from India speak Indian, or people from China speak Chinese. I defy a Mandarin-speaking person to understand everything said in Cantonese, or Hunan, or even Taiwanese. They may all be Chinese languages, but they have differing characters, sounds, inflections, etc. Similarly, Mexican Spanish has many different words, sounds, etc. from pure Spanish which make it impossible to make the statement you have offered and be able to back it up.Hell, even American, Canadian, Australian, Belizian, and British English are quite different...never mind whateverthehell that is they speak up in Scotland or over in Wales. ;-)That is all.-ichi------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsadc69 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 woah, ichi - you took me the wrong way. by no means do i mean to say that mexican spanish is the same dialect as castillian spanish or any other regionalized dialect - but trust me on this one - "para no morir, tiene que bailar" means the same thing no matter what spanish speaking country you go to. i totally agree with all your points - but on this one me and my ten years of spanish study (domestic and abroad) are pretty sure.~------------------ "Happy the man, and happy he alone, he who can call today his own, he who, secure within, can say, 'Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have liv'd today'." - Horace"Be excellent to each other." - Rufus"Para no morir, tiene que bailar." - Ricky Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastyt Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Oy vey this topic has taken quite a turn!------------------I never try anything, I just do it... Wanna try me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyco Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Damn.......where the hell is this post going? Talk about overanalyzation.......we must have some Ivy Leaguers in here It looks more like a personal attack here rather than a coherent argument about the topic at hand.......leave it be.......we're all different ---> no chance of agreementAnyhow, it seems many of the uncircumsised fellas in here got pretty defensive quick......I really don't know why........I am quite proud to be circumsised and although it may be "unnecessary", I happen to enjoy it and if I have sons, they will also be cut.........case closed.besides, a lot of things in this world are "unnecessary" but we do them anyhow.......for starters, how about body piercings and tatoos? Both of which are not necessary for life to go on but are done frequently in our culture whether the reason be cultural or physical......and both, in conjuction with circumsision, involve pain that could otherwise be avoided if there wasn't some sort of driving force behind a person's actions........to some, the results outweigh the pain and to others, it's not worth it........not everything makes perfect sense but why should it....... Mikey------------------"I don't want a piece....I want the whole thing....." - Bob Barker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickijay Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 oooh, good subject.....first let me say "hey"....just got back from miami and i missed everyone that wasn't down there with us....but now that i'm back and i'm staying home tonight i'm gonna add my two cents here! the first weenie i ever had the pleasure of seeing was unsnipped...just so happened to be on an english fella. he totally sat me down and gave me this long talk on it and the thing is if he hadn't said anything i wouldn't have known....but anyway, it was a very nice one. i didn't have sex with it but it will remain in my memory as the first weener i ever saw...completely intact. the second one i saw uncircumcised was the son of a baptist minister. i liked his too. never really thought anything about the subject until my sister (who is english, obviously, and a nurse) came over to visit and we got into a conversation about circumcision....i was saying if i married an american and had i son i'd prob. go with my husband's wishes but then after thinking about it i realized it would prob. become a huge problem b/t us.....ok, now i'm tired of typing so i'm just going to say that if i ever have a son which is so highly unlikely...but if i ever do i won't have him circumcised........and if you are it's no big deal...------------------ Boink like a bunny with spring fever!!!uknj@aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathyo Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Originally posted by uknjx2: i liked his too. That was cute and innocent sounding!I missed you Nicki!------------------ ~*~*~Don't use time or words carelessly, neither can be retrieved.~*~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidstarr Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 I'm afraid so. Most dick in NY is curcumsized...most dick in the states are period...and thank god for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsadc69 Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Originally posted by tyco:we must have some Ivy Leaguers in here <-------- columbia. in here. no need to roll the eyes.------------------ "Happy the man, and happy he alone, he who can call today his own, he who, secure within, can say, 'Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have liv'd today'." - Horace"Be excellent to each other." - Rufus"Para no morir, tiene que bailar." - Ricky Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickijay Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Originally posted by cathyo: That was cute and innocent sounding!I missed you Nicki!hee hee, but of course, cathy....i AM innocent..!!! and i missed EVERYONE while i was gone. now i just have to get my damn internet connection sorted out at work and i'll be able to slack off again!! ------------------ Boink like a bunny with spring fever!!!uknj@aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintu Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 Originally posted by shugabooga:i've never seen an uncircumcized one before ('cept maybe in pics), what's it like? i want details!!! Well I am not and I like it. The only thing is the head is sensitive.------------------They call me Pin2 short for PintuIs there a Pin1 and Pin3???I say I say ol'chump how you say "LETS PARTY""Imigination is more important than knowledge" -Albert Einstein"We all feel better in the DARK!" -PSB pintuj@hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyco Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by lmsadc69: <-------- columbia. in here. no need to roll the eyes.oh really.......why not?------------------"I don't want a piece....I want the whole thing....." - Bob Barker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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