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By that logic, nobody will ever post a photo of themselves unless they're gay, but even then, who the hell wants to jerk off to their own photo?

Interesting... So what criteria would be appropriate for judging the two candidates? Just looks?

I think there's got to be a difference in the rule between regular dancing and stripping. Stripping is supposed to be (somewhat) mimicking sexual motions, which isn't --necessarily-- true of club dancing.

It's not about how they look, it's about the fact that Demi can't move her body to save her life.

Anybody who picks Demi obviously hasn't seen Striptease and/or True Lies.

Estimations of maintenance calories are based on total bodyweight. The low-end estimation for a person with high bodyfat and a sedentary lifestyle is approximately: 11x bodyweight (for a man; it would be 10 for a woman) x 1.15 (for a sedentary lifestyle) x 1.10 (for the thermic effect of feeding) = approximately 14x bodyweight. Therefore, if you weighed 200lbs (I have no idea how much you weighed), your maintenance calories would be 2800 calories, which isn't far off from the back-of-the-envelope 15x bodyweight calculation that I gave earlier. You say you tried counting calories before and it didn't work. What system did you use?

Hey guys, you should make elites a moderator if he wants to be. I don't think I'm going to have the time for it, myself. I appreciate the thought, though!

But I'm not advocating 3 meals a day. I eat 6 a day. Yet elitesnautica seems to think that I'm giving "Old School" advice... 3000 calories is approximate maintenance for somebody who weighs 200 pounds. If you weighed more than 200 pounds, you were eating below maintenance. See previous point.

I don't understand... what do you think is "Old School"?

If you eat more than maintenance, then you are BY DEFINITION gaining weight. That's what "maintenance" means. But yet again... why go to the trouble of eating a low/no-carb diet when you can lose weight just fine (and safely) just by counting calories???

Glycerine doesn't cause the same insulin response, that's why.

Elites, were you able to find that study showing that adults can't digest milk protein?

Re-read what you just wrote. You are in effect agreeing that a person has to eat below maintenance in order to lose weight. If you're eating a no/low-carb diet, then your maintenance requirements may be much higher (due to glucose production, etc), but you still can't pass them and expect to lose weight. If you're eating a "normal" diet, you can just count your calories based on the standard 12xbodyweight rule. I prefer the second method because low-carb diets like Atkins are 1) hard to follow and 2) tend to encourage people to lose lots of weight quickly, which is not only unhealthy but also ineffective in the long term (people have a much higher tendency to gain the weight back). Anyway, whatever floats your boat. But why complicate your life with low-carb if all you have to do is count your calories?

Maybe women are more sexual when they're less fertile as a way of trying to make them get pregnant one last time.

You're right, there haven't been any crabs in the U.S. since 1976. Cool, huh?

From what I've read, that is a good approach to take. You might also try front squats; once you get past the difficulty of balancing the bar in front of you, you can go deep very easily. However, please do take my advice with caution as I'm not a doctor and don't know the details of your injury.

I agree that if a person is eating things like pizza, etc. they have to be very careful to monitor their calories. I was very strict with myself -- I wrote down every calorie I ate every day except weekends. (In fact, I still do that now that I'm bulking, to make sure I'm getting enough calories to gain from.) Exactly.

If your father had consumed fewer than his maintenance amount of calories, he would have lost weight. It's very simple -- if you're not consuming enough calories to meet your expenditures, your body is forced to burn itself to compensate. I'm not recommending the people eat pizza -- that was definitely *not* the point of my post. I recommend that people primarily eat foods for which they *know* the calorie values for certain. That's the only way they can be sure they're not going over maintenance. But anybody can eat pizza and still lose weight. You think a person could live on only a single slice of pizza a day and not lose weight? No way. It's an extreme example, but I think it proves my point quite nicely: if you don't eat enough food, you will lose weight. Period. That's why most people lose weight on Atkins. It's not the low carbs, it's the fact that by cutting out carbs, they've drastically cut their calorie intake.

But only if they are consuming a correct amount of calories. Carb depletion doesn't mean shit if you just end up getting your calories from other sources. I never denied this. When have I said that high-glycemic carbs should be a frequent food source? Never. I've only said that if a person is monitoring their calorie intake, there is NO reason not to consume high-glycemic carbs after a workout! I can't eat what I want and lose weight. I have to watch my calories just like anybody else. I mentioned eating pizza because it proves that carbohydrates do not prevent weight loss. It most certainly was NOT a common meal for me. I think the same as you, that a person should eat a good amount of protein and lift weights to maintain muscle mass while losing weight. I have never said otherwise. The bottom line is that calorie expenditure is the PRIMARY determining factor in weight loss. As you've said, there are many reasons why limiting carbohydrates can be helpful, but that doesn't mean a person should avoid them at all times, especially not post-workout. I think we're actually in agreement but emphasizing different points.

Yeah, I would appreciate if you could link to some actual references, because everything I've come across so far has indicated that "milk protein isn't digestible" is a myth.

How many more times am I going to have to say that weight loss is about calories in versus calories out? You can eat pizza and pasta all day long and still lose weight -- if your calories are below your maintenance level. But you could drink protein shakes all day long and still get fat -- if your calories are *above* your maintenance level. All this "carbs are bad" hype is getting on my last nerve! Low-carb can HELP a person lose weight, but the bottom line is CALORIES.

That's funny, all these sources say that the protein in milk is highly digestible. http://www.onr.com/user/lylemcd/Protein%20article/proteinpart2.html http://www.unu.edu/unupress/unupbooks/80295e/80295E0d.htm http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/3069/protein.htm http://groups.google.com/groups?q=milk+protein+digestibility&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=0%24--%24%25%25%25_%24_%25---%24-%24%40news.noc.cabal.int&rnum=2

Oh, I got my carbs from lots of places... yogurt, pizza, sandwiches, Zone bars, grape juice (in the morning before a workout), etc. etc. I wasn't overly picky; I just counted my calories and made sure that I was eating less than my maintenance amount... guaranteed way to lose weight!

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I don't think it would impact your workout much even if you did the cardio right after, unless you did it for so long that you neglected your post-workout nutrition. But like elites said, cardio may not be the first thing you want to do after a heavy leg workout! BTW, deep squats (below parallel) are safer for your knees than, for example, leg extensions or smith machine squats. That's because your hamstrings stabilize the knee joint when squatting.