Sports Random Thoughts

[calebdead]

I usually have alot of random shit to say concerning sports so I figured I'd just give myself and anyone else a thread to say whatever they want.

For instance, I wanted to acknowledge the fact that Shaq had a triple double last night in just 28 minutes, but I didn't want to make a new thread on that subject alone.

more random shit to follow

[lolahotass]

Fabulous idea Caleb

Detroit Lions need to fire Matt Millen. I'm almost terrified of what he'll fuck up this year with the upcoming draft.

[vicman]

when da fuck is grant hill retiring? goddam i hate that fucker!

[lolahotass]

when da fuck is grant hill retiring? goddam i hate that fucker!

Loved watching him, christian lattiner, bobby hurley, and cherokee parks play at DUKE.

But yeah, he's falling apart.. I think he was out every year he played (er cheered from the sidelines) in Detroit.........

[calebdead]

ty lola =]

Speaking of Duke, nobody has mentioned whats going on with the rape allegations concerning their lacrosse team. Recently, there were DNA tests administered and no DNA from any of the players was found on that womans body. Yet the DA says the case "won't go away?" wtf

[calebdead]

I feel weve been cheated out of some briliant careers from guys like Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway. these guys were all around great players. their careers started out so fucking awesome but they just flamed out

[Felix_Leiter]

Why cant i get into hockey?

[vicman]

Loved watching him, christian lattiner, bobby hurley, and cherokee parks play at DUKE.

But yeah, he's falling apart.. I think he was out every year he played (er cheered from the sidelines) in Detroit.........

ever since he got traded to the Magic i dont think he's played any season in more than 1/2 the games at the most. the Magic got stuck with that contract and got screwed - they used to be a good, serious franchise but his contract has really prevented them from fielding a decent team in years.

[vicman]

ty lola =]

Speaking of Duke, nobody has mentioned whats going on with the rape allegations concerning their lacrosse team. Recently, there were DNA tests administered and no DNA from any of the players was found on that womans body. Yet the DA says the case "won't go away?" wtf

i think the DA should STFU and go about the investigation. he's obviously pandering to the population since he's up for re-election this year. saying the case was a "slam dunk" before any info on the events had come out was a bad move on his part.

there are reports that there are witnesses who verified that the woman was beat up before going to the party, duke university hospital said that when she came in she didn't mention anything about being raped by the duke team, nothing.

if the players are guilty, prosecute them with the full extent of the law, if the woman is lying and just trying to extort $ from the players family she should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. many women get raped and are scared to come fwd. for many reason, but a lot also lie of being raped and that doesn't help the cause at all.

[stymie]

more and more upset everyday over that willy mo/arroyo trade

[vicman]

more and more upset everyday over that willy mo/arroyo trade

they way arroyo is hitting they could have him batting 5th behind ortiz and manny, lol.

[fkornre]

i wonder how effective corey dillon is gonna be this year...

still not over the fact that vinatieri is gone

[nomembername]

when the fuck is Farve going to decide if he's coming back or not?

[bxbomb]

I really, really gave NASCAR a chance this yr.

Catching a good portion of a few races and came to the conclusion it still SUCKS

unless biffles wife and Busch's girlfriend fight naked next time , i doubt youll get me to waste anymore time on this sport

[bxbomb]

Fabulous idea Caleb

Detroit Lions need to fire Matt Millen. I'm almost terrified of what he'll fuck up this year with the upcoming draft.

Millen has naked pix of Fords wife and half of the offensive line , thats the only reason he still has that spot

I always thought who would last longer being a total fuck up at the gm spot MIllen with the Lions or MIlbury with the Islanders

Millen wins

[calebdead]

I love poker and everything about it. I sort of play it for a living. But why the fuck is it on ESPN? It's not a damn sport, it's a card game.

NASCAR is a borderline sport.

[calebdead]

This right here is a an absolutely brilliant article written by someone here at CP on the Duke allegations.

They way I see things, where we're at in Durham, NC is the point where, if a Duke lacrosse player isn't charged with rape, sodomy and assault, there'll likely be rioting in the streets.

Because, you know, somebody had to have done this, and since all the evidence -- or at least the hearsay -- points to them, well, one or more of these guys has to go down, right?

Because, according to Alexander Wolff in the April 10th issue of Sports Illustrated, fifteen current players had previously been charged with "underage drinking, violations of open container laws or noise regulations or public urination." And nobody was ever convicted of a damned thing, so although we know these stick-wielding bastards are evil personified, we also know they're flouting laws and ordinances like it's going out of style down there at Duke.

By the way, anyone here -- especially anyone with a penis -- who went to college and a) didn't drink until their twenty-first birthday, never walked around with an open container or made excessive noise, and c) never took a leak in the bushes...is free to leave the room. As a journalist, you simply can't take shit that every college student in the history of mankind has done at one time or another and act as if you're horrified by the fact that such behavior exists. That's dirty pool, and if you're attempting to indicate in your writings that such things shock you, I'll readily question your integrity because I think you're completely full of shit.

A "Duke graduate," in a rather public email that has "made the rounds of the internet" told the coach of the lacrosse team about players "breaking bones, trying to urinate on furniture, and shattering a window with a keg during his time at the school."

They tried to urinate on furniture? What exactly does this mean? Were they successful? If not, why not? Did a particularly nimble sofa somehow manage to dodge the stream? Hell, if they'd succeeded, wouldn't it read differently? "They urinated on furniture," perhaps? And someone threw a keg through a window once in this guy's four years at the school? I mean, shit, a keg through a window? What's next? Rape?

There's also the guy next door who says he heard a racial comment come from the house, so I guess we have to accept that as gospel. And twenty members of the team went out drinking two weeks later, so you know, there's also the horrific nature of that.

Mr. Wolff goes on to tell us about a 1995 study which "found that while athletes made up 3.3% of the male students (at ten Division I institutions examined), they accounted for 19% of reported sexual assaults." I hardly mean to make light of the situation, but did Mr. Wolff ever stop to consider the fact that athletes simply "pull more ass" than anyone on campus? It certainly doesn't make sexually assault something we should find acceptable, but this, to me, is simply a matter of skewed statistical sampling. It stands to reason, from my collegiate experience, that there will always be more sexual liaisons between women and male athletes than between women and, say, the biomedical engineering club. In other words, exponentially more opportunities for something to go horribly wrong.

Here's my point, and here's what I'm sick of in all the coverage of this case: Whether one or more of these pricks did this or not -- and, believe me, if they did I'll be the first to call for the maximum allowable sentence -- the holier-than-thou bullshit of journalists like Alexander Wolff, who pile on anyone accused of a crime by listing every fucking traffic ticket they've gotten in the past twenty years is blatant hypocrisy, pure and simple.

What you really have to do, unless you have no idea what it means to be unjustly accused of something, or you haven't the capacity to empathize with those who potentially have been, is wait until you have all the facts of the case before you start throwing fistfuls of shit on the principals involved. Because when someone fingers you for something, and the journalistic profession sanctimoniously brings every single one of your foibles -- relevant or no -- to the surface, it certainly seems unfair from my vantage point.

I'm not choosing a side here, and neither should you. All I'm asking is: what if? What if the Duke players' version of events is the truth? Again, any guy over the age of twenty who has never been in the presence of strippers can leave the room. What if the woman in question really did show up to their party in that condition, as they're claiming? What if that's true? Can Alexander Wolff, and all the rest of the journalists who've been kicking the accused in the teeth for the past month possibly know if it is or isn't?

So why polarize the entire fucking world so we arrive at this stage? Where if the police tell us someone other than a Duke lacrosse player did this, nobody's going to believe it, and people are going to riot. Where we excoriate asshole college males for doing shit that asshole college males do at every asshole college in the world, stunned -- stunned -- at their sense of entitlement, when the reality of the situation is that the people writing the fucking stories likely acted in the same asinine manner at the same age, albeit sans rape in most cases.

And so people in Durham march. They protest. They hold rallies. They bang pots and pans together in front of the house where the assault allegedly occurred. And for what? Because they know something? Fuck, no. It's because they want these people to be guilty because they don't like them, or what it is they supposedly stand for. That's not the way it works. You simply can't do that. You have to wait and see if they actually did it first.

Listen, I have no great love for Duke University. In all likelihood, I wouldn't get along with most of the players on the Duke lacrosse team. Guys they went to high school with are dying in obscurity in Iraq while they're on the phone ordering strippers to the keg party. They're probably assholes. I don't know, and I don't care, and I have no desire to ever meet any of them. But people who weren't there and don't know what transpired that night need to stop what they're doing until the legal system finally tells us what happened.

[nomembername]

I love poker and everything about it. I sort of play it for a living.

do you play online?

[vicman]

when the fuck is Farve going to decide if he's coming back or not?

if i was the GM i would cut him. no one player or owner is bigger than the team/franchise - time to move on and start developing the other QB guy.

[calebdead]

do you play online?

Of course. That's pretty much all I play. pokerstars, ultimatebet, fulltilt, and occaisonaly paradise.

The advantages of playing online are just so much bigger than playing live.

[calebdead]

if i was the GM i would cut him. no one player or owner is bigger than the team/franchise - time to move on and start developing the other QB guy.

lol you can't cut Favre. Do you realize how popular he is in Green Bay?

[nomembername]

use to play on pokerstars and paradise now i'm mostly on BoSPoker...what kind of table do you sit at?

[stymie]

brett favre fucked Mary

[calebdead]

I play all the games really. O8, Razz, limit holdem, no limit, triple draw, stud hi/lo, and alot of tournaments. lately ive been playing alot of satellites trying win a couple of seats at the WSOP. Not the main event tho, thats a total crapshoot. I also play some SNG's.

What's BoSpoker? Does that stand for "bet on sports"? Or are you talking about BoDog poker? What do you play?

[nomembername]

yeah bet on sports