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Just because it's privately owned doesnt allow crobar to discriminate......IF crobar was a country club with paying members that would be a diffrent story

New York City's Human Rights Law forbids discrimination based on race, creed, sex, and other grounds by any "place of public accommodation, resort or amusement," but specifically exempts "any institution, club or place of accommodation which is in its nature distinctly private." However, a 1984 amendment (Local Law 63) provides that any "institution, club or place of accommodation," other than a benevolent order or a religious corporation, "shall not be considered in its nature distinctly private" if it "has more than four hundred members, provides regular meal service and regularly receives payment . . . directly or indirectly from or on behalf of nonmembers for the furtherance of trade or business." Immediately after Local Law 63 became effective, appellant association filed a state-court suit against the city and some of its officials, seeking, inter alia, a declaration that the Law is unconstitutional on its face under the First and Fourteenth Amendments. The trial court entered a judgment upholding the Law, and the intermediate state appellate court and the Court of Appeals of New York affirmed.

OK Crobar does not even come close to a place or accomodation

Secondly they law forbids a place of public accomodation to "advertise" or make "statement" that discriminate based on creed, race, gender,

thirdly this is America if you own a PRIVATE nightclub you can deny entry to anyone you do not want on your property!! the same law protects homeowners..im disgusted with all the ignorance in this thread

PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS

Anyone who provides goods and services to the general public is considered a public accommodation. It is against the law for a public accommodation to withhold or refuse to provide those goods or services; charge a different amount for the same goods or services; set different terms for obtaining those goods or services; discourage certain people from using them; or advertise or make statements that would make you feel unwelcome because of your race, color, creed, age, national origin, alienage or citizenship status, gender (including gender identity), sexual orientation, disability, marital status, and partnership status. Please note that there are limited exemptions from the provisions of this law based upon gender and age.

Some examples of public accommodations include stores, banks, medical or dental offices, government agencies, hair salons, health clubs, hospitals, hotels, libraries, theaters, restaurants, schools, and taxis.

Now ive never seen crobar advertise or Issue a statement that orientals are not welcome!! I also have witnessed white males and females denied entry just like asians..ive seen groups of males asked to leave solely because they were men.. Ive witnessed people paying different prices for the same service such as Comps, Reduced, and general admissions..ive see people get comped for VIP and the next person had to get a table and 2 bottle minimun pay $$..I also have seen asians shaking each other doing there crazy k outta their mind type style of dancing if its even considered dancing..So Asians have been permitted to p[arty inside crobar..Nightclubs are exempt because of different parties involved in producing the entainment IE, Promoters, Agents, DJ's, and Sponsers..who pays for the discrimination? does crobars doorstaff recieve there pay Directly from crobar or do you think crobar hires second party security firms who do background checks and pays the door/security personnel as an independant company!!

this is not the case with libraries,taxis,hotels(provide reg meal service),airports etc

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OK Crobar does not even come close to a place or accomodation

Secondly they law forbids a place of public accomodation to "advertise" or make "statement" that discriminate based on creed, race, gender,

thirdly this is America if you own a PRIVATE nightclub you can deny entry to anyone you do not want on your property!! the same law protects homeowners..im disgusted with all the ignorance in this thread

PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS

Anyone who provides goods and services to the general public is considered a public accommodation. It is against the law for a public accommodation to withhold or refuse to provide those goods or services; charge a different amount for the same goods or services; set different terms for obtaining those goods or services; discourage certain people from using them; or advertise or make statements that would make you feel unwelcome because of your race, color, creed, age, national origin, alienage or citizenship status, gender (including gender identity), sexual orientation, disability, marital status, and partnership status. Please note that there are limited exemptions from the provisions of this law based upon gender and age.

Some examples of public accommodations include stores, banks, medical or dental offices, government agencies, hair salons, health clubs, hospitals, hotels, libraries, theaters, restaurants, schools, and taxis.

You are wrong.

the only evidence you have is hearsay and circumstancial.

Nightclubs are public venues and are liscensed by the City and State. they are no different than bars or restaurants. The federal and State attorney generals have stated this before.

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You are wrong.

the only evidence you have is hearsay and circumstancial.

Nightclubs are public venues and are liscensed by the City and State. they are no different than bars or restaurants. The federal and State attorney generals have stated this before.

Ok for arguments sake lets take your point and say crobar does qualify as a place of public accomadation please show me where they "have made statements and/or Advertised that asians are not welcome"

why are they allowed to comp one person entering vip and the another $200 for the same service..same goes for Gen Admission and reduced

crobar does not "provide meals regualary" such as restaurants , hotels, coffee shops, diners etc..as for bars i would say TGIF qualifys but a place like discoteque or the neighborhood bar that does notr serve "regular meal service" are exempt

whats circumstantial? you would have to prove in court that crobar provides regular meal service.. Now when was the last time you took your girl to crobar to get a bite to eat LMAO ..better yet dude call a lawyer he will hang up on you for wasting his time lol lol lol

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look, this is just based on the last few parties asians being asked to get off line and not being granted entry to the club.

We are not saying there are aryan nation meetings going on inside there or anything.

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every club/concert has a policy statement that says, 'admission subject to door policy.' [at club's discretion.]

that's it- crobar & any club can fill its club ANY WAY they want. period.

any patron has the right not to go to a club.

any club has the right not to admit anyone they choose not to

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LOL

As long as it is within the laws of the united states, new York State, and new york city.

Why Do people keep arguing this? :laugh: Do they really think that a sign or who the owner is allows them to violate the law?

Why dont they deal drugs in there if they are a private club?

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OK Crobar does not even come close to a place or accomodation

Secondly they law forbids a place of public accomodation to "advertise" or make "statement" that discriminate based on creed, race, gender,

thirdly this is America if you own a PRIVATE nightclub you can deny entry to anyone you do not want on your property!! the same law protects homeowners..im disgusted with all the ignorance in this thread

PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS

Anyone who provides goods and services to the general public is considered a public accommodation. It is against the law for a public accommodation to withhold or refuse to provide those goods or services; charge a different amount for the same goods or services; set different terms for obtaining those goods or services; discourage certain people from using them; or advertise or make statements that would make you feel unwelcome because of your race, color, creed, age, national origin, alienage or citizenship status, gender (including gender identity), sexual orientation, disability, marital status, and partnership status. Please note that there are limited exemptions from the provisions of this law based upon gender and age.

Some examples of public accommodations include stores, banks, medical or dental offices, government agencies, hair salons, health clubs, hospitals, hotels, libraries, theaters, restaurants, schools, and taxis.

Now ive never seen crobar advertise or Issue a statement that orientals are not welcome!! I also have witnessed white males and females denied entry just like asians..ive seen groups of males asked to leave solely because they were men.. Ive witnessed people paying different prices for the same service such as Comps, Reduced, and general admissions..ive see people get comped for VIP and the next person had to get a table and 2 bottle minimun pay $$..I also have seen asians shaking each other doing there crazy k outta their mind type style of dancing if its even considered dancing..So Asians have been permitted to p[arty inside crobar..Nightclubs are exempt because of different parties involved in producing the entainment IE, Promoters, Agents, DJ's, and Sponsers..who pays for the discrimination? does crobars doorstaff recieve there pay Directly from crobar or do you think crobar hires second party security firms who do background checks and pays the door/security personnel as an independant company!!

this is not the case with libraries,taxis,hotels(provide reg meal service),airports etc

"OK Crobar does not even come close to a place or accomodation"

:blah:

"place of public accommodation, resort or amusement,"......

Id like to emphazize the "resort or amusement" part from my original post.

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Just because it's privately owned doesnt allow crobar to discriminate......IF crobar was a country club with paying members that would be a diffrent story

New York City's Human Rights Law forbids discrimination based on race, creed, sex, and other grounds by any "place of public accommodation, resort or amusement," but specifically exempts "any institution, club or place of accommodation which is in its nature distinctly private." However, a 1984 amendment (Local Law 63) provides that any "institution, club or place of accommodation," other than a benevolent order or a religious corporation, "shall not be considered in its nature distinctly private" if it "has more than four hundred members, provides regular meal service and regularly receives payment . . . directly or indirectly from or on behalf of nonmembers for the furtherance of trade or business." Immediately after Local Law 63 became effective, appellant association filed a state-court suit against the city and some of its officials, seeking, inter alia, a declaration that the Law is unconstitutional on its face under the First and Fourteenth Amendments. The trial court entered a judgment upholding the Law, and the intermediate state appellate court and the Court of Appeals of New York affirmed.

ILL BReak it down read slowly children

"New York City's Human Rights Law forbids discrimination based on race, creed, sex, and other grounds by any "place of public accommodation, resort or amusement,"

"but specifically exempts "any institution, club or place of accommodation which is in its nature distinctly private."

However, a 1984 amendment (Local Law 63) provides that any "institution, club or place of accommodation," other than a benevolent order or a religious corporation, "shall not be considered in its nature distinctly private"

benevolent order or a religious corporation....... As far as I know crobar is neither which makes considered a "place of public accommodation, resort or amusement,"

now so you dont have to re read

"New York City's Human Rights Law forbids discrimination based on race, creed, sex, and other grounds by any "place of public accommodation, resort or amusement,"

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ILL BReak it down read slowly children

"New York City's Human Rights Law forbids discrimination based on race, creed, sex, and other grounds by any "place of public accommodation, resort or amusement,"

"but specifically exempts "any institution, club or place of accommodation which is in its nature distinctly private."

However, a 1984 amendment (Local Law 63) provides that any "institution, club or place of accommodation," other than a benevolent order or a religious corporation, "shall not be considered in its nature distinctly private"

benevolent order or a religious corporation....... As far as I know crobar is neither which makes considered a "place of public accommodation, resort or amusement,"

now so you dont have to re read

"New York City's Human Rights Law forbids discrimination based on race, creed, sex, and other grounds by any "place of public accommodation, resort or amusement,"

you cannot speak to ppl who arent willing to listen. save your energy.

if i eat dog and cat before i go dancing, could the humane society sue me?

zinger~! i guess we all now know what the sound of one hand clapping is...

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