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Let's see... Colon Powel admited there was no connection Iraq and 9/11. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/09/politics/09POWE.html Bush Admits there is no connection to Iraq and 9/11 http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/no-saddam-qaeda.htm The report of the joint congressional inquiry admits there is no connection to Iraq and 9/11 http://truthout.org/docs_03/072503B.shtml Even Blair admits there is no connection to Iraq and 9/11. http://argument.independent.co.uk/regular_columnists/simon_carr/story.jsp?story=371597 But as, you said, I'd be missing the point by pointing out that there is no connection. Why don't you explain the point of invading Iraq after 9/11 if there is no link to it.

I concur.

You directed it at my thread. My thread is regarding MLK. Another typical racist response. Martin Luther King's Biography on the man's birthday is not old news. You're a disgrace.

Your mother was free last night.

Brave n the sense that they could be ostricised in their career for speaking their views. Patriotic in that they are speaking for reform of their government that doesn't represent us. And fuck you, you piece of shit. Your the dickhead, cockboy.

Typical racist response. You've got no respect for the man. Shameful.

uhm... no it's hypothetical. Look it in the dictionary if you don't know what it means. When you respond to a statement that has a "what if" or a "I wonder what would happen if" in it, it's hypothetical.

Old news. He's an old crackhead and wanna be pimp. Don't jack my thread.

Read the first sentence of my original post and you'll see that today is Dr. Martin Luther King Jr birthday. The federal holiday is Monday, the 19th.

It takes no money to start a revolution only balls.

People will endorse or associate themselves with whatever mantra or ideology that they believe in. I hope the american people would serioulsly consider what ideology they believe in. I think they were brave and patriotic in expressing their views publically. That's democracy.

Who cares.

This confirms what I think Clark.

In case you didn't know, today is Dr. King's birthday.

I think Margret Cho said it best at the Moveon.org Awards whe she said... "Despite all of this stupid bullsh-- that the Republican National Committee, or whatever the f--- they call them, that they were saying that they're all angry about how two of these ads were comparing Bush to Hitler? I mean, out of thousands of submissions, they find two. They're like fu--ing looking for Hitler in a hawstack. You now? I mean, George Bush is not Hitler. He would be if he fu--ing applied himself." big, extended applause) "I mean he just isn't."

One of the most visible advocates of nonviolence and direct action as methods of social change, Martin Luther King, Jr. was born in Atlanta on 15 January 1929. As the grandson of the Rev. A.D. Williams, pastor of Ebenezer Baptist church and a founder of Atlanta's NAACP chapter, and the son of Martin Luther King, Sr., who succeeded Williams as Ebenezer's pastor, King's roots were in the African-American Baptist church. After attending Morehouse College in Atlanta, King went on to study at Crozer Theological Seminary in Pennsylvania and Boston University, where he deepened his understanding of theological scholarship and explored Mahatma Gandhi's nonviolent strategy for social change. King married Coretta Scott in 1953, and the following year he accepted the pastorate at Dexter Avenue Baptist Church in Montgomery, Alabama. King received his Ph.D. in systematic theology in 1955. On 5 December 1955, after civil rights activist Rosa Parks refused to comply with Montgomery's segregation policy on buses, black residents launched a bus boycott and elected King president of the newly-formed Montgomery Improvement Association. The boycott continued throughout 1956 and King gained national prominence for his role in the campaign. In December 1956 the United States Supreme Court declared Alabama's segregation laws unconstitutional and Montgomery buses were desegregated. Seeking to build upon the success in Montgomery, King and other southern black ministers founded the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) in 1957. In 1959, King toured India and further developed his understanding of Gandhian nonviolent strategies. Later that year, King resigned from Dexter and returned to Atlanta to become co-pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church with his father. In 1960, black college students initiated a wave of sit-in protests that led to the formation of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC). King supported the student movement and expressed an interest in creating a youth arm of the SCLC. Student activists admired King, but they were critical of his top-down leadership style and were determined to maintain their autonomy. As an advisor to SNCC, Ella Baker, who had previously served as associate director of SCLC, made clear to representatives from other civil rights organizations that SNCC was to remain a student-led organization. The 1961 "Freedom Rides" heightened tensions between King and younger activists, as he faced criticism for his decision not to participate in the rides. Conflicts between SCLC and SNCC continued during the Albany Movement of 1961 and 1962. In the spring of 1963, King and SCLC lead mass demonstrations in Birmingham, Alabama, where local white police officials were known for their violent opposition to integration. Clashes between unarmed black demonstrators and police armed with dogs and fire hoses generated newspaper headlines throughout the world. President Kennedy responded to the Birmingham protests by submitting broad civil rights legislation to Congress, which led to the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Subsequent mass demonstrations culminated in the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom on 28 August 1963, in which more than 250,000 protesters gathered in Washington, D. C. It was on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial that King delivered his famous "I Have a Dream" speech. King's renown continued to grow as he became Time magazine's Man of the Year in 1963 and the recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize in 1964. However, along with the fame and accolades came conflict within the movement's leadership. Malcolm X's message of self-defense and black nationalism resonated with northern, urban blacks more effectively than King's call for nonviolence; King also faced public criticism from "Black Power" proponent, Stokely Carmichael. King's efficacy was not only hindered by divisions among black leadership, but also by the increasing resistance he encountered from national political leaders. FBI director J. Edgar Hoover's extensive efforts to undermine King's leadership were intensified during 1967 as urban racial violence escalated, and King's public criticism of U.S. intervention in the Vietnam War led to strained relations with Lyndon Johnson's administration. In late 1967, King initiated a Poor People's Campaign designed to confront economic problems that had not been addressed by earlier civil rights reforms. The following year, while supporting striking sanitation workers in Memphis, he delivered his final address "I've Been to the Mountaintop." The next day, 4 April 1968, King was assassinated. To this day, King remains a controversial symbol of the African American civil rights struggle, revered by many for his martyrdom on behalf of nonviolence and condemned by others for his militancy and insurgent views. ************************************** Related articles Bush not welcome at King Center memorial site Planned Bush Trip to MLK Site Upsets Some

Top Iraq War Advocate: White House's 'Rush to War Was Reckless' Kenneth Pollack, key supporter of regime change in Iraq, now says White House engaged in "creative omissions' about WMD. By Tom Regan | csmonitor.com It's the latest in a string of books, reports and articles that call into question the way the Bush administration presented pre-war evidence about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Kenneth Pollack, a Clinton-era National Security Council member and strong supporter of regime change in Iraq (Mr. Pollack had presented his arguments in the much talked about book "The Threatening Storm: The Case for Invading Iraq") now says that he and many others were wrong about the nature of the threat Iraq posed. In an interview with the Atlantic Monthly , and in a new book ""Spies, Lies, and Weapons: What Went Wrong," Pollack says that, while the war was not a "strategic mistake," as the removal of Saddam Hussein's malignant influence from the region provided some good, the Bush administration's "justifications and explanations for war were at best faulty, at worst deliberately misleading." His [Pollack's] most scathing criticism falls on the Bush Administration and, particularly, its tendency to misstate the facts of the case when trying to persuade the country to go to war. In his eyes, the Administration consistently engaged in "creative omission," overstating the imminence of the Iraqi threat, even though it had evidence to the contrary. "The President is responsible for serving the entire nation," Pollack writes. "Only the Administration has access to all the information available to various agencies of the US government – and withholding or downplaying some of that information for its own purposes is a betrayal of that responsibility." Full Article http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0114/dailyUpdate.html?s=mets Books by Kenneth Pollack http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0375509283/theatlanticmonthA/104-8499410-4938346

Listen, I was responding to your hypothetical answer that nothing would happen. Read your own post.

Those bastards!!

Yeah.. exciting game. They were getting they're asses handed to them at first.

I actually like Dennis Miller, believe it or not. I think he's a very funny and intelligent guy. This show is perfect for his career. One thing is he should stay away from the sports commentating and acting cause he was horrible. Bordello of Blood was a shitty display of acting but maybe it was because anyone looks horrible oppositte of Corey Feldmen. Good for him.

Please provide links. Thanks.

Not in my experience. It all depends on what law enforcement officers you are referring to. Everyone has stories of how shitty they can be.

That's bullshit. Imagine a valid tourist coming from one of the countries that we've designated to be fingerprinted and photographed, let's say Saudi Arabia. And this Saudi national decides that's this is a bullshit policy that the US has and uses obcenity and flips the camera off as he/she is being photographed. Do you still think the would be no charges or harassment from the authorities? Yeah, right!

1 to 3 inches my ass! Now what am I supposed to do with these 40 rolls of TP?